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  1. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    I am disappointed also and share your frustration.. How the non carrier 6p has it but the pure moto doesn't has me puzzled .. Between my mm bugs and no WiFi I have thrown my hands up.. I have 6p arriving Monday and lgv10 coming Wed.. One will be my new daily driver and my moto pure is going in the drawer with my other unused old phones.

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    12-27-2015 04:51 PM
  2. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    Swappa has just about been ran out of lgv10 since the articles this last week.. Lol

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    12-27-2015 05:18 PM
  3. RicKaysen's Avatar
    I really would like to buy the X Pure. I got over the lack of a removable battery and I like the specs and the price. That missing WiFi calling though.... It's more than a convenience. I have a T-Mobile CellSpot for home, but what good does that do me on the road where there is no cell signal? I'm going to wait and see if Moto is listening and bakes it in to the next version of their flagship. The competition coming soon is tempting, but the projected prices are off putting. We'll see.....
    12-28-2015 09:14 AM
  4. Cam G's Avatar
    Not quite sure why you felt the need to express this if you have no question. But to clarify, Wi-Fi calling is "baked in" to MM 6.0. The only requirement would be for T-Mobile to support the device on their end.
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    12-28-2015 09:17 AM
  5. Clocks's Avatar
    If you're on the road in dead spots that often wouldn't it be more convenient to switch to a carrier with better coverage than ducking into a Starbucks every time you need to make a call?
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    12-28-2015 09:17 AM
  6. isdaako's Avatar
    It's time to change carriers or invest in a cell booster for your vehicle. I can't see how wi-fi calling is going to help at all in your situation.
    12-28-2015 10:17 AM
  7. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    Not quite sure why you felt the need to express this if you have no question. But to clarify, Wi-Fi calling is "baked in" to MM 6.0. The only requirement would be for T-Mobile to support the device on their end.
    Moto took WiFi calling out of mm.. Nexus has it and working for T-Mobile.. Motos black eye on this one

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    12-28-2015 12:35 PM
  8. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    It's time to change carriers or invest in a cell booster for your vehicle. I can't see how wi-fi calling is going to help at all in your situation.
    Think he is referring to while traveling as in at hotels, in buildings, or even when overseas.. Anywhere they may have WiFi hot spots but really bad cell coverage.

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    12-28-2015 12:37 PM
  9. RicKaysen's Avatar
    Thanks Ryaan. People here are so fast to criticize when they're completely missing the point.
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    12-28-2015 02:33 PM
  10. isdaako's Avatar
    Think he is referring to while traveling as in at hotels, in buildings, or even when overseas.. Anywhere they may have WiFi hot spots but really bad cell coverage.

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    Seems this thread has been combined with another TMO? In any event, Ryaan thanks for the explanation. I had assumed that traveling was used as a verb.
    12-29-2015 07:29 AM
  11. cwise222's Avatar
    I'm wondering if the phones have to be certified and tested by each carrier in order to use WiFi calling; just like Band 12 needs to be with T-Mobile. I know there were a few reports here and there that T-Mobile made it painful and expensive to get unlocked phone certified for Band 12. Google may have the muscle (and money) to push it though quickly but Moto may not. I wouldn't be surprised if Moto made the choice to yank WiFi calling out now so they could get 6.0 out quickly and not have to delay it.

    Carriers do not want people using unlocked phones at all. The carriers want to control every single aspect of your phone and service so they can make the most money. I would not be surprised if there are long and expensive certifications that must be done for the phone to have WiFi calling. The 2015 X is pretty much a Nexus phone so there should be no reason why it was yanked other then the carriers demanding some long and expensive certification process or else they would not let the phone be active on their network.
    12-29-2015 11:51 AM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    If you're on the road in dead spots that often wouldn't it be more convenient to switch to a carrier with better coverage than ducking into a Starbucks every time you need to make a call?
    WiFi calling usually is used for home use or if you're in an area with bad coverage -- If it is constantly bad (and it is a place you go all the time) then yes switching would make sense but to change carriers for an area you may not go all the time? Especially if you could just use WiFi calling to resolve that pain point? May not be worth it. I pay $50 a month for unlimited .. anything else would cost me a LOT more (even for something like 3 GB) on another carrier. Just really depends on the situation.
    12-29-2015 01:17 PM
  13. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    I really would like to buy the X Pure. I got over the lack of a removable battery and I like the specs and the price. That missing WiFi calling though.... It's more than a convenience. I have a T-Mobile CellSpot for home, but what good does that do me on the road where there is no cell signal? I'm going to wait and see if Moto is listening and bakes it in to the next version of their flagship. The competition coming soon is tempting, but the projected prices are off putting. We'll see.....
    Although I have a MXPE and like it, for the most part, I would buy the Nexus 6P or LG V10 now. Motorola dropped the ball when they failed to include wifi calling. That's actually a big deal for some customers. The Nexus 6P, with 128GB, is about what I paid for my customized MXPE.

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    12-29-2015 06:29 PM
  14. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    I'm wondering if the phones have to be certified and tested by each carrier in order to use WiFi calling; just like Band 12 needs to be with T-Mobile. I know there were a few reports here and there that T-Mobile made it painful and expensive to get unlocked phone certified for Band 12. Google may have the muscle (and money) to push it though quickly but Moto may not. I wouldn't be surprised if Moto made the choice to yank WiFi calling out now so they could get 6.0 out quickly and not have to delay it.

    Carriers do not want people using unlocked phones at all. The carriers want to control every single aspect of your phone and service so they can make the most money. I would not be surprised if there are long and expensive certifications that must be done for the phone to have WiFi calling. The 2015 X is pretty much a Nexus phone so there should be no reason why it was yanked other then the carriers demanding some long and expensive certification process or else they would not let the phone be active on their network.
    Whatever the reason it was left out, Motorola made a REALLY bad choice. The phone is supposed to be almost pure Google. What was there to certify since it doesn't include carrier bloatware? That's one of the major selling points of the phone. Now it's a reason many have for NOT buying it. Finding this out now, I wouldn't have.

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    12-29-2015 06:47 PM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    Carriers do not want people using unlocked phones at all. The carriers want to control every single aspect of your phone and service so they can make the most money. I would not be surprised if there are long and expensive certifications that must be done for the phone to have WiFi calling. The 2015 X is pretty much a Nexus phone so there should be no reason why it was yanked other then the carriers demanding some long and expensive certification process or else they would not let the phone be active on their network.
    While I can kind of see where you're going with this .. There is still the fact that the Google Nexus 6 (last years model) got WiFi calling from T-Mobile and that was also a Motorola phone. Therefore, if Motorola could have the muscle / resources to get WiFi calling going with the Nexus 6 (back before Marshmallow) then they could have done it for the Moto X Pure Edition... especially since Marshmallow is now out and WiFi calling is baked into the software already. It just has to be utilized.

    My opinion ... they wanted to just not deal with any bugs that may have come from that feature so they removed it. Especially since it really is only T-Mobile and Sprint using WiFi calling right now. Verizon is testing it out on some new phones and AT&T is using the iPhone to test it so they are still in the minor stages.
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    12-30-2015 12:23 PM
  16. RicKaysen's Avatar
    WiFi calling usually is used for home use or if you're in an area with bad coverage -- If it is constantly bad (and it is a place you go all the time) then yes switching would make sense but to change carriers for an area you may not go all the time? Especially if you could just use WiFi calling to resolve that pain point? May not be worth it. I pay $50 a month for unlimited .. anything else would cost me a LOT more (even for something like 3 GB) on another carrier. Just really depends on the situation.
    I have tried all four major carriers in NYC and each one has a horrible signal in my apartment. Going with T-Mobile WAS my choice for the one that could provide consistent connections via WiFi calling. Yes, another company has since added the feature, but I'm already with TM and also don't mind the price difference.
    12-30-2015 12:58 PM
  17. Ry's Avatar
    Whatever the reason it was left out, Motorola made a REALLY bad choice. The phone is supposed to be almost pure Google. What was there to certify since it doesn't include carrier bloatware? That's one of the major selling points of the phone. Now it's a reason many have for NOT buying it. Finding this out now, I wouldn't have.

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    Do you know what kind of certifications, if any, are required for T-Mobile's WiFi calling?
    12-30-2015 03:41 PM
  18. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    Do you know what kind of certifications, if any, are required for T-Mobile's WiFi calling?
    Nope. Are they tougher than the other carriers? If there are, Huawei didn't have any trouble meeting them for the Nexus 6P.
    12-30-2015 09:59 PM
  19. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    Nope. Are they tougher than the other carriers? If there are, Huawei didn't have any trouble meeting them for the Nexus 6P.
    Sold my mxpe today and loving my lgv10.. Sorry guys

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    01-02-2016 04:53 PM
  20. thejesse's Avatar
    Sorry?

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    01-03-2016 12:47 AM
  21. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    Sorry?

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    No longer a motto guy..

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    01-03-2016 05:19 AM
  22. thejesse's Avatar
    No longer a motto guy..

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    OIC. No one should have to apologize for using the device that works best for them.

    There is a lot to like about the V10. A lot. The LG ui just doesn't float my boat.

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    01-03-2016 04:24 PM
  23. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    OIC. No one should have to apologize for using the device that works best for them.

    There is a lot to like about the V10. A lot. The LG ui just doesn't float my boat.

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    Not really excited by the LG ui either.. Loaded nova launcher and Google keyboard and now I cant really tell. But its smooth, its fast, awesome pictures and music, I have my SD card, removable battery, and my tmobile WiFi calling..

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    01-04-2016 12:24 PM
  24. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    Not really excited by the LG ui either.. Loaded nova launcher and Google keyboard and now I cant really tell. But its smooth, its fast, awesome pictures and music, I have my SD card, removable battery, and my tmobile WiFi calling..

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    I've been considering getting rid of my MXPE too. I'm leaning towards the 128GB Nexus 6P, but the LG V10 has some very desirable features too. I have used Nova Launcher Prime on all my Android phones, along with Swiftkey keyboard, so LG's UI doesn't matter. I'm just holding out for now.

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    01-04-2016 04:45 PM
  25. Almeuit's Avatar
    I've been considering getting rid of my MXPE too. I'm leaning towards the 128GB Nexus 6P, but the LG V10 has some very desirable features too. I have used Nova Launcher Prime on all my Android phones, along with Swiftkey keyboard, so LG's UI doesn't matter. I'm just holding out for now.

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    I'd say do it. Everyone I know (including myself) loved the 6P. It really is an awesome phone. Also wifi calling baked in with quick updates .
    01-04-2016 08:58 PM
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