[SmartAssBill]

Tmobile dropped price to $500 and free projector which i feel is a great deal. the only thing holding me back is the smaller battery and the screen that cant seem to handle little scratches.

Can anyone compare to the MXPE?

[pkcable]

I had a Z Force (original), and I feel confident to comment here. My screen held up well PLUS you can always install a tempered glass OR "invisible shield" style screen protector on it. I had a tempered glass on mine. BUT it was fine for the couple months I had it without.

Ok now about the projector. Cool toy, BUT don't let that be the deciding factor. I pretty much never used it. It wasn't up to the task for important purposes, like when you need to do a work presentation, you need to be connect to a computer then. And it doesn't really look that good for a 250 dollar projector. Yea yea I know they are giving it away. Like I said it's a cool toy! I watched a couple Luke Cage episodes on it, on my wall. WOO!

That being said I think the Moto Z Force is a great phone, and I'm sure the Z 2 is a worthy successor!

[SmartAssBill]

i am most likely going to sell the projector, thus making the initial cost of the phone cheaper. I usually put screen protectors on my phones anyway just sucks that they screen is scratching that easily. i like the bumper that verizon sells that you can still use the mods with. i am a huge fan of the bumpers to showcase the back of the phone. i had one on my mxpe to show of the nice black wood back on my phone but the bumper broke and i can not find a replacement.

[pkcable]

i am most likely going to sell the projector, thus making the initial cost of the phone cheaper. I usually put screen protectors on my phones anyway just sucks that they screen is scratching that easily. i like the bumper that verizon sells that you can still use the mods with. i am a huge fan of the bumpers to showcase the back of the phone. i had one on my mxpe to show of the nice black wood back on my phone but the bumper broke and i can not find a replacement.

Yea selling it is probably the move, BUT bear in mind Moto gave so many away that its value is REALLY depleted, don't expect 250, EVEN brand new in box. They are going for 100-150 range on ebay!

[SmartAssBill]

i was going to go buy today. now nougat is coming!! what do i do??? deal ends tomorrow on free projector!!!

[pkcable]

i was going to go buy today. now nougat is coming!! what do i do??? deal ends tomorrow on free projector!!!

Well I REALLY enjoyed my Moto Z Force. And certainly not a game changer for you BUT the original AND the successor you are looking at ARE Google Daydream View compatible. The Z Force looks fantastic inside a Daydream! (Not quite as good as my S8, BUT better than the Pixel)

[itic]

Ive been geting promos for the Z2 for $399 nothing about a projector

[pkcable]

Ive been geting promos for the Z2 for $399 nothing about a projector

That's an awesome price! And considering how low it is, are you really THAT surprised they are not including the projector? Trust me though you don't need it AND there are better options that support Bluetooth and can connect to your phone AND a laptop.

[SmartAssBill]

Ive been geting promos for the Z2 for $399 nothing about a projector

where have you seen $399??

i just found out i get some really good deals on samsung through work discount program. hate to say it may look to go that route...

[Jheebs]

No Sammy, noooooooooo..... lol

[itic]

Sorry. Now only one @ that price is the verizon versions. Id spend my 299 on a 64g 4RAM G5s then a samsung anything. Also whatever buy samsung will be carrier branded..