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  1. Revolutionary's Avatar
    I haven't seen any 15-25 dollar ones on Verizon's site yet, but i did just look up the Incipio ones .. that's very promising that third parties are already making some. I might pick up the blue one from them.
    VZ has had them since launch, but they call it a "back plate," not a "StyleShell": Incipio Interchangeable Back Plate for Moto Z Force Droid and Moto Z Droid - Verizon Wireless
    08-05-2016 12:36 PM
  2. Stickboy46#CB's Avatar
    VZ has had them since launch, but they call it a "back plate," not a "StyleShell": Incipio Interchangeable Back Plate for Moto Z Force Droid and Moto Z Droid - Verizon Wireless
    Good to know .. Their search function isn't great. For those interest, using the coupon code inc15 on the incipio site gets you 15% off. So it ran 12.74 for a backplate through them.
    Revolutionary, Ry, YAYTech and 2 others like this.
    08-05-2016 12:44 PM
  3. Cookedart's Avatar
    - Button shape and placement. Too similar in shape, too high up on the device.
    - Overall size of the device is too big. Even at this screen size the bezels are too large.
    - Bottom chin.. would work better if it was more symmetrical.
    - Lack of headphone jack annoying. No 3.5mm + usb-c passthrough adapter out yet.
    - Bottom half of bezel gets warm while charging or under higher load.
    - Sound quality from speaker is so-so.
    - there should be more wireless charging backs. Wireless charging style shells would be nice.
    - The glass/metal back is very fingerprint and scratch prone.
    - battery mods only charge main battery. It doesn't bypass the main battery and drain the mod.
    - lack of cases, especially those that work with the Moto mods.
    - more mods!
    08-05-2016 09:57 PM
  4. tx_tuff's Avatar
    - Button shape and placement. Too similar in shape, too high up on the device.
    - Overall size of the device is too big. Even at this screen size the bezels are too large.
    - Bottom chin.. would work better if it was more symmetrical.
    - Lack of headphone jack annoying. No 3.5mm + usb-c passthrough adapter out yet.
    - Bottom half of bezel gets warm while charging or under higher load.
    - Sound quality from speaker is so-so.
    - there should be more wireless charging backs. Wireless charging style shells would be nice.
    - The glass/metal back is very fingerprint and scratch prone.
    - battery mods only charge main battery. It doesn't bypass the main battery and drain the mod.
    - lack of cases, especially those that work with the Moto mods.
    - more mods!
    You sound return it and very something with a smaller dislike list.
    ggrr8t likes this.
    08-05-2016 10:03 PM
  5. mobrules's Avatar
    The lack of bumper case alternatives to the Verizon one, which needs modification to be useful. Plenty of "bumper" cases on Amazon for it, but those are all just full-coverage TPU cases, not bumpers. I'm thinking about getting one of those and cutting out the back panel to approximate a bumper. I want to protect the edges, but I also want to be able to use mods freely, so I need a bumper that doesn't suck...

    (Before anyone asks, I have a razor for cutting TPU, but not a Dremel for finely trimming plastic; I don't mind the actual modification, but I need to be able to do it without investment).
    This will likely be on my list of dislikes once I get my phone.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    I got the black bumper from Verizon when I got the phone. Tumi wireless mod connects fine. It's a cheap setup and feels cheap but it works. I did not have to do anything to the charging post access. Cables connect just fine. No dremel required.

    Maybe take a cable to a store and try it out. I'm not saying I won't eventually need to trim it but had several cables work just fine.
    08-05-2016 10:26 PM
  6. tx_tuff's Avatar
    I got the black bumper from Verizon when I got the phone. Tumi wireless mod connects fine. It's a cheap setup and feels cheap but it works. I did not have to do anything to the charging post access. Cables connect just fine. No dremel required.

    Maybe take a cable to a store and try it out. I'm not saying I won't eventually need to trim it but had several cables work just fine.
    The mods have a notch that fit over the tab that gets in the way of the style backs. So on mods no problem, on the style backs a small problem.
    08-05-2016 11:24 PM
  7. Cookedart's Avatar
    You sound return it and very something with a smaller dislike list.
    I'm actually quite happy with it. This thread is specifically for issues though.
    08-05-2016 11:42 PM
  8. tx_tuff's Avatar
    I'm actually quite happy with it. This thread is specifically for issues though.
    Damn I see I can even spell right, anyway just messing with you. I enjoy the phone too, my only problem was the grid.
    08-06-2016 12:02 AM
  9. sangs's Avatar
    I have to make an addition today. The last two days were the first I've had a chance to put the camera through its paces and I am not impressed. In fact, I'm downright disappointed. Between the slowness of the focus and of taking the actual picture, to the poor image detail, to the insistence of using a high ISO, this camera is light years behind the Galaxy and iPhone.
    jeepentj likes this.
    08-06-2016 04:31 AM
  10. Piper5150's Avatar
    *Too slippery (hopefully a diff styleshell fixes this)
    *Speaker pop
    08-06-2016 04:34 AM
  11. tx_tuff's Avatar
    I have to make an addition today. The last two days were the first I've had a chance to put the camera through its paces and I am not impressed. In fact, I'm downright disappointed. Between the slowness of the focus and of taking the actual picture, to the poor image detail, to the insistence of using a high ISO, this camera is light years behind the Galaxy and iPhone.
    Are you sure you are using the right camera app? I was using the stupid Google camera app by mistake (I guess it was on the front screen when I got the phone or somehow I moved it there) and that app is terrible!! I have seen find the right Moto camera app and it is night and day difference!!
    Piper5150, benjamminh and fr4nk1yn like this.
    08-06-2016 04:52 AM
  12. sangs's Avatar
    Are you sure you are using the right camera app? I was using the stupid Google camera app by mistake (I guess it was on the front screen when I got the phone or somehow I moved it there) and that app is terrible!! I have seen find the right Moto camera app and it is night and day difference!!
    I've been using whatever camera opens with the wrist twist gesture.
    08-06-2016 11:17 AM
  13. Cookedart's Avatar
    A few more:

    - the bottom antenna band sits around the USB-C port. It's plastic so it will get scratched for sure.
    - ships with the may 01 security update. So it ships three months behind on updates.
    - lack of notification LED ( always on display almost mitigates this but not quite )
    08-06-2016 01:01 PM
  14. tx_tuff's Avatar
    I've been using whatever camera opens with the wrist twist gesture.
    Go in and get rid the Google camera app just in case.
    08-06-2016 02:28 PM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I have to make an addition today. The last two days were the first I've had a chance to put the camera through its paces and I am not impressed. In fact, I'm downright disappointed. Between the slowness of the focus and of taking the actual picture, to the poor image detail, to the insistence of using a high ISO, this camera is light years behind the Galaxy and iPhone.
    Maybe they will improve that with an update. They HTC 10 was off when it first came out and they made adjustments.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    fr4nk1yn and Ryan402 like this.
    08-07-2016 12:28 AM
  16. GodWeTrust's Avatar
    Grid was a problem. I quickly went with Nova Launcher and 5x6 grid.

    The shell it comes with is slippery. No good. Ordered a bumper case. I also read where the shatterproof screen can scratch easier, so I'm adding a tempered glass to it.

    I agree that I'm hoping future cases will allow for use with mods, especially the battery mod.

    The device speakers are a trade up to my former z3v speakers. And the free speaker mod is great! No issues there.

    Calls are a little tinny to my ear. No matter. Volume is fine. Wife says she cannot tell when I have her on speaker phone. A plus for sure.

    I personally love the size and the edges. The volume buttons should be under the power button. But I'm getting used to it.

    Never used the headphone jack. Not a missing to me.

    Battery is an improvement over my old phone. And quick charge is great. Just wish it was wireless charging.

    And I wish it was IP68.
    areyes163 and Matthew Deyling like this.
    08-07-2016 01:47 PM
  17. areyes163's Avatar
    Waterproof is not a issue for me although I see why many people like it. Headphone jack is also not a issue since I always use Bluetooth headphones. I am waiting for a wireless charging mod without the battery though. I'm sure it will come. Just a matter of when.

    Maybe when the device becomes available for more markets they will announce more mods as incentive to get more people to purchase the device.
    08-07-2016 01:50 PM
  18. mobrules's Avatar
    Go in and get rid the Google camera app just in case.
    Can you provide a screen shot of the camera app to get rid of? Maybe from the play store or something.
    08-07-2016 07:08 PM
  19. YAYTech's Avatar
    Can you provide a screen shot of the camera app to get rid of? Maybe from the play store or something.
    From the other thread, it sounds like the Google Camera app automatically installed among restored apps. It's not a preinstalled app on these phones.
    08-07-2016 08:17 PM
  20. Revolutionary's Avatar
    Can you provide a screen shot of the camera app to get rid of? Maybe from the play store or something.
    If you have 2 apps called camera installed, it's the one that will uninstall entirely.
    08-07-2016 10:37 PM
  21. tx_tuff's Avatar
    Can you provide a screen shot of the camera app to get rid of? Maybe from the play store or something.
    Yeah I think it didn't come with the phone. But the Google came app has the different colors as the lens.
    08-07-2016 11:13 PM
  22. fr4nk1yn's Avatar
    This one is nit picky, but still annoying to me. The hotspot quick settings tile takes seconds to acknowledge a press.

    The reviews I saw mentioned gorilla glass on the back. Besides the two steps at the upper and lower edge the back appears to be plastic.
    08-08-2016 08:28 PM
  23. YAYTech's Avatar
    This one is nit picky, but still annoying to me. The hotspot quick settings tile takes seconds to acknowledge a press.

    The reviews I saw mentioned gorilla glass on the back. Besides the two steps at the upper and lower edge the back appears to be plastic.
    Most of the back is metal - the mods have magnets, the back of the phone is metal.

    Also, I assume you're referring to the pulldown menu hotspot button? The issue with it is that stock Android doesn't have an icon for "in process". So it either shows as off or on, and when you first tap it and it starts thinking, the icon doesn't change until it's actually ready to be used. I agree that should change, perhaps to an icon without the slash through it, but still grayed out.
    fr4nk1yn likes this.
    08-08-2016 08:42 PM
  24. Cookedart's Avatar
    Not a fan of either "color mode" - Standard has too much of a 'green' cast to it, Vibrant is far too saturated for my eyes.
    GodWeTrust likes this.
    08-08-2016 09:38 PM
  25. benjamminh's Avatar
    The Anandtech review pointed out color accuracy could be better, including color temperature.
    08-09-2016 08:17 AM
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