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  1. benjamminh's Avatar
    Samsung does some things well, you have to give them that. Other things, not so much.
    11-20-2016 12:53 PM
  2. revtech's Avatar
    difference is significant
    Your comparison is not accurate, the onscreen buttons are part of the display proper so if you drop your note 5 down where it belongs you'll see there's only 0.2" difference . . But yes the note 5 display allows for more viewing because of the capacitive buttons
    11-21-2016 08:48 PM
  3. tx_tuff's Avatar
    Your comparison is not accurate, the onscreen buttons are part of the display proper so if you drop your note 5 down where it belongs you'll see there's only 0.2" difference . . But yes the note 5 display allows for more viewing because of the capacitive buttons
    We all know when you need the screen for videos, photos, games, or anything that matters the on screen buttons to away. But let them complain.
    revtech likes this.
    11-21-2016 08:58 PM
  4. plumcrazy's Avatar
    tx_tuff, all i know is when im looking at my 100+ emails a day, looking at my calender, PDF files, google chrome and pictures the screen is considerably smaller by 1/2". thats all im saying. those buttons on the moto are eating up a ton of space compared to my old note5. im keeping the moto till the new note comes out so its not like i hate the moto but the screen is a lot smaller

    not to mention the thread title is what do owners NOT like about the phone. relax.....
    11-22-2016 05:42 AM
  5. tx_tuff's Avatar
    tx_tuff, all i know is when im looking at my 100+ emails a day, looking at my calender, PDF files, google chrome and pictures the screen is considerably smaller by 1/2". thats all im saying. those buttons on the moto are eating up a ton of space compared to my old note5. im keeping the moto till the new note comes out so its not like i hate the moto but the screen is a lot smaller

    not to mention the thread title is what do owners NOT like about the phone. relax.....
    The Note 5 is not an old phone, just over a year old. So if you like it better I don't understand why you are using something different. And I'm not giving you a hard time, I really just don't understand.
    11-22-2016 08:48 AM
  6. plumcrazy's Avatar
    its old for me... i go thru a new phone every 10 months or so. ive had this one a year. i just bored with it and will wait for the note8 to come out and hope it wont burn my leg off lol. till then im happy with the z force. I actually forgot how damn good these radios are. it gets so MUCH better reception than the Samsungs do. cant even compare
    PowrDroid likes this.
    11-22-2016 02:33 PM
  7. garak0410's Avatar
    The "starting quiet" notifications. This may be a showstopper for me at work as our sales-force (two of them I'm putting in Z Force Droids) needs to hear their notifications.
    Mark8768 likes this.
    11-23-2016 02:54 PM
  8. 1901Madison's Avatar
    Not a big fan of the battery life on the Z Force. SOT is perfectly fine, but the phone drains at around 2% per hour idly sitting on the table. I won't use a phone that drains more than 1% per hour without being used. It's not like I have much syncing in the background either.
    12-03-2016 10:43 PM
  9. benjamminh's Avatar
    Not a big fan of the battery life on the Z Force. SOT is perfectly fine, but the phone drains at around 2% per hour idly sitting on the table. I won't use a phone that drains more than 1% per hour without being used. It's not like I have much syncing in the background either.
    Not sure why yours is doing this, probably an app causing wake locks. I'm in the 1% range per hour and about 1 to 3 percent overnight.
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    12-03-2016 11:29 PM
  10. tx_tuff's Avatar
    Not a big fan of the battery life on the Z Force. SOT is perfectly fine, but the phone drains at around 2% per hour idly sitting on the table. I won't use a phone that drains more than 1% per hour without being used. It's not like I have much syncing in the background either.
    So you can get 5 plus hours of OST but if you battery drains 16% instead of 8% poverty 8 hours you won't use it?

    I never pay attention to idle time, I use my phone. The only time it isn't Tammy being used is when I'm sleeping and than it's plugged in.
    12-04-2016 02:35 AM
  11. 1901Madison's Avatar
    Not sure why yours is doing this, probably an app causing wake locks. I'm in the 1% range per hour and about 1 to 3 percent overnight.
    Is there a way to check which wake locks could be preventing my phone from sleeping properly?
    12-04-2016 08:54 AM
  12. fr4nk1yn's Avatar
    Is there a way to check which wake locks could be preventing my phone from sleeping properly?
    The built in battery stats are a joke. You'd need to use GSAM battery monitor, although I've read it doesn't work great with nougat(?).
    12-04-2016 11:37 AM
  13. 1901Madison's Avatar
    The built in battery stats are a joke. You'd need to use GSAM battery monitor, although I've read it doesn't work great with nougat(?).
    Yeah, it doesn't work at all with Nougat.
    fr4nk1yn likes this.
    12-04-2016 01:26 PM
  14. benjamminh's Avatar
    Yeah, that's a problem finding out which app is the issue.
    12-04-2016 01:32 PM
  15. doogald's Avatar
    Even GSAM hasn't been useful for finding out which app has wake locks since KitKat (unless you root).
    12-04-2016 03:14 PM
  16. 1901Madison's Avatar
    Even GSAM hasn't been useful for finding out which app has wake locks since KitKat (unless you root).
    True. Do any apps show wake locks with Nougat?
    12-04-2016 05:33 PM
  17. plumcrazy's Avatar
    not being able to dismiss a call and send the caller a quick text telling them ill call them back later
    12-05-2016 05:09 AM
  18. garak0410's Avatar
    The "starting quiet" notifications. This may be a showstopper for me at work as our sales-force (two of them I'm putting in Z Force Droids) needs to hear their notifications.
    I've noticed this has been better over the last few days....
    12-06-2016 10:14 AM
  19. Connert's Avatar
    I've noticed this has been better over the last few days....
    I just came across this link posted in the Z Play forum. Posted by Ry in a thread on the low notification issue. Seems Lenovo has intentionally set the volume low at the beginning of the notification for safety reasons (or maybe liability reasons).

    https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-.../3501648#M2531

    I see that someone has developed an app to override the issue. I'm giving it a try and will report back in a few days. App is "Disable Increasing Ring".
    mobrules likes this.
    12-06-2016 09:35 PM
  20. mobrules's Avatar
    I don't like that when I go into apps I can't easily see running apps.
    Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. Anyone have any ideas?
    12-06-2016 10:53 PM
  21. Ry's Avatar
    I don't like that when I go into apps I can't easily see running apps.
    Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. Anyone have any ideas?
    I believe that's a stock Android thing though.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    12-07-2016 12:42 AM
  22. plumcrazy's Avatar
    for some reason in the stock exchange email when i click a link it wont open up a browser
    12-07-2016 05:11 AM
  23. mobrules's Avatar
    I believe that's a stock Android thing though.
    I did figure out if how to see running services......but kind of a pain. Settings>developer options>4th one down is running services.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    12-07-2016 02:03 PM
  24. Connert's Avatar
    The "starting quiet" notifications. This may be a showstopper for me at work as our sales-force (two of them I'm putting in Z Force Droids) needs to hear their notifications.
    I'm on day two with this app "Disable Increasing Ring". It was crashing each time I received a notification from Life360, but worked fine for all other notifications.

    I sent feedback to the developer last night and received an email from him this morning with a new apk to try. Installed new apk and have not had any issues all day. It seems to be working great. Also impressed with such quick response time from developer. At this rate I'll be purchasing the app when the trial ends.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...increasingring
    12-08-2016 02:45 PM
  25. sulla1965's Avatar
    Lenovo removed the "breathing" notification feature present on all previous Moto's that had amoled displays.
    12-10-2016 04:53 PM
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