1. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    To be honest, I'm pretty mixed on this one. There were a lot of things I liked but also some things I didn't like that were pretty significant to me.

    First, let's start off with the good. The overall hardware is pretty much your typical flagship Android smartphone. A Snapdragon 820 SoC, 4GB of memory and 32GB of storage that's expandable via microSD. Pretty high-end across the board. I also liked how they returned to AMOLED this time around, which is great, especially for stuff like Moto Display, of which an OLED panel makes sense for anyway. Super-quick charging on the Z Force is a nice bonus along with the improved cameras (I'm still not sure if Moto has sorted out their processing, but the addition of OIS and the release of a heavily-improved camera app should help things out). Software is basically close-to-stock Android with some extras like the aforementioned Moto Display, which I liked since the OG Moto X from 2013. And finally, even though I'm still not big on the whole modular design on smartphones unless a universal standard that is adopted by more major smartphone OEMs becomes a thing, Motomods is much better implemented than LG's "Friends" IMO, since it doesn't require a battery pull (and subsequent power off), can be hot swapped as a result, is easier to snap on and remove and has more modules at launch, which are infinitely more useful than the ones LG has, with more to come. Also, a Type-C charging port is a nice touch (though I'm not sure if it is fully-compliant. Probably not, due to quick-charging, but if it's anything like LG's implementation, USB Power Delivery and the other nifty features of USB-C should still be there).

    However, there's a couple of downsides that just don't bode well with me, personally. First of all, the design is a bit....ehh. I mean, the phone overall doesn't look bad or anything, but some parts look somewhat...off to me. The flat-tire design on the camera module looks weird to me and the squared FPS on the front is also kinda odd-looking (not helping is that the visible IR sensors on the white model makes it look somewhat goofy to me). The lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack is also a disappointment for someone like me since I use it very frequently, and while Moto is smart to offer an adapter in the box to lessen the pain significantly, I can't help but feel that it's not going to go well with quite a number of folks. And of course, the battery on the standard Moto Z. I'm sorry, but 2,600mAh on a phone with flagship hardware and a QHD display is borderline unacceptable at this stage. Haven't we learned from the Galaxy S6? Given that the Moto Z Force has a much larger 3,500mAh battery in a similar (albeit slightly thicker) profile, I can't help but wonder why they didn't go with something closer to 3000mAh in the standard model. Also, this is more of a personal thing, but I think it's just too thin. I know, I know. They have to make it thin to make sure the Motomods don't add extra bulk or anything, but surely, even an extra 0.5mm couldn't hurt?

    Overall, I'm rather mixed on this device. It was actually better than what I thought it would be, but my expectations weren't really high to begin with. It delivers a lot on what I expected and it does a lot of things pretty well, especially when it comes to the basic Android experience. However, some things, like the pretty disappointing battery capacity on the standard model, and lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack, just doesn't really do favors for the device for me. I'm also not too sure on how Moto will support this device in the future via security patches and software updates, since they have gotten pretty slow since the Lenovo takeover. Perhaps the one thing that I think really blows it for the device is availability. Throughout the summer, it's exclusive to Verizon, and an unlocked version will come in the fall. On it's own, that might not sound too bad, but when you consider that other phones, like the Samsung Galaxy Note 6/7, the iPhone 7 and the 2016 Nexus devices, usually come out in that timeframe (the Note may come sooner), then it doesn't look too rosy. However, I do hope that Moto does shift through a good amount of these phones, since we need competition in the Android space, and for all the flak the Moto Z has been getting, it at least does a lot of things right, especially the Motomods, surprisingly enough.

    On a side note, anyone noticed the "Moto" logo above the front-facing fingerprint sensor? Doesn't it remind you of the HTC black bar on the HTC One M7 to the A9?
    My personal thoughts on the Moto Z from the event-img_2213.jpg
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    06-10-2016 09:53 AM
  2. Curt Chaffee's Avatar
    I might add that although there was nowhere else they could put it with the mod thing going on, all of that space at the bottom (front) for the logo, FPS and control buttons is offputting as a flagship design. Makes the phone seem even bigger because they didn't make the best use of the real estate.
    06-10-2016 11:52 AM
  3. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I might add that although there was nowhere else they could put it with the mod thing going on, all of that space at the bottom (front) for the logo, FPS and control buttons is offputting as a flagship design. Makes the phone seem even bigger because they didn't make the best use of the real estate.
    It just looks odd to me. They could have used the fingerprint sensor as a home button and added capacitive buttons to make use of that space. Shame that they didn't, especially since there used to be a second speaker on the chin in the 2015 Moto X Pure Editon.
    06-10-2016 01:18 PM
  4. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Lack of support in the way of slow updates and patches is enough to keep me away. That and the broken promises to update fairly new phones whose hardware was more than capable of updates just so they could sell new models.

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    06-11-2016 11:10 AM
  5. YAYTech's Avatar
    Your "too thin" complaint seems moot when you can simply put one of the style covers on it for a bit more thickness, or perhaps a battery mod (hopefully offered in several capacities and thus different thicknesses so one could choose just the right balance of extra battery and desired thickness).
    06-11-2016 12:59 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    I need to sit down and a write-up but I have share most of the opinions Michael Fisher have on the Moto Z podcast.

    Android Central 292: Moto Z Special Edition! http://www.androidcentral.com/podcas...pecial-edition

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    06-11-2016 01:03 PM
  7. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Your "too thin" complaint seems moot when you can simply put one of the style covers on it for a bit more thickness, or perhaps a battery mod (hopefully offered in several capacities and thus different thicknesses so one could choose just the right balance of extra battery and desired thickness).
    Now, that's all fine and dandy, but we have to know that there are some people in the world who aren't going to be using ether the Style covers or the battery mod for whatever reason.

    For those people, the Z Force would be the better option unless they want a really thin phone or want the feeling of Gorilla Glass.
    06-11-2016 09:07 PM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    Now, that's all fine and dandy, but we have to know that there are some people in the world who aren't going to be using ether the Style covers or the battery mod for whatever reason.

    For those people, the Z Force would be the better option unless they want a really thin phone or want the feeling of Gorilla Glass.
    I'm curious if a "plain" Style Shell will be included.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    06-11-2016 09:15 PM
  9. Clocks's Avatar
    I'm curious if a "plain" Style Shell will be included.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    According to some "moto maker fans" on reddit who were invited to the event a style shell will be included.
    06-11-2016 10:16 PM
  10. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    According to some "moto maker fans" on reddit who were invited to the event a style shell will be included.
    Yeah, that would be good.

    Personally, I would put one on. Evens out the camera hump and makes the back look better IMO. Also helps make it thicker to a more comfortable level.

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    06-11-2016 10:29 PM
  11. YAYTech's Avatar
    Having a style shell on there is probably good to protect the pin array, as well as round out the back for a more ergonomic grip/feel.
    06-12-2016 05:02 PM
  12. 1901Madison's Avatar
    I would hope at least one style mod is included.
    06-12-2016 05:36 PM
  13. Clocks's Avatar
    I would hope at least one style mod is included.
    It is
    06-12-2016 06:13 PM

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