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  1. stanleywinthrop's Avatar
    Are the TurboPower chargers using Qualcomm Quick Charge or USB Power Delivery?

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    I second this question.

    Also how is the thickness of the force with the battery pack? Does it feel too thick in the hand?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Aquila likes this.
    07-21-2016 10:27 AM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    If you had to put your own money down on one, would you buy the Moto Z or Moto Z Force?

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    07-21-2016 10:29 AM
  3. pearlmikejam's Avatar
    Given that a battery mod is available, which is your preference? Z or Z Force?

    Sent from my LG-V510 using Tapatalk
    07-21-2016 10:30 AM
  4. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    I second this question.

    Also how is the thickness of the force with the battery pack? Does it feel too thick in the hand?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    It's definitely thicker, but the curve helps a lot.
    07-21-2016 10:32 AM
  5. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    If you had to put your own money down on one, would you buy the Moto Z or Moto Z Force?

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition

    I need to do a post answering exactly that. Still trying to decide.
    07-21-2016 10:32 AM
  6. flyingfiddle's Avatar
    Thank you for your great review! I agree Moto Z's implementation of modular design is better than LG's G5. However does the very big chin with the off-centred fingerprint button and Moto log bother you? I personally can not yet stand that look (the same reason I never considered previous HTC One phone), and I feel they should have implemented the button similar to Samsung phones torelease some screen realestate back to user. On-screen button is only more attractive if it brings less chin (hence shorter phone such as LG G3 and G4), or a front-facing bottom speaker (e.g. ZTE Axon 7).

    If they had confirmed that all future Moto Z would work with existing Mods, that would mean the dimension of the phone can't really be changed (much). That means:
    -Screen of future Moto Z would have to stay 5.5 or very close to that, unless a future model could go bezel-less
    -If screen size stays the same in future model, they will continue to have such a big chin
    -It's hard to imagine how much change in terms of phone design they can make if future models are to remain compatible with current mod.
    07-21-2016 10:55 AM
  7. pearlmikejam's Avatar
    Given that a battery mod is available, which is your preference? Z or Z Force?

    Sent from my LG-V510 using Tapatalk
    Let me ask this a different way...

    With a battery mod effectively negating the battery boost on the force, what are the factors to consider when deciding? Camera and shatter resistant screen?

    Sent from my LG-V510 using Tapatalk
    libra89 likes this.
    07-21-2016 10:58 AM
  8. stabbedintheface's Avatar
    Which one of these devices would be best for playing Pokemon Go? Also does Pokemon Go work on this device. Last Question: Can AC do a post about playing Pokemon go on this particular device? Then maybe a follow up Podcast.
    Wildo6882 and accordex#AC like this.
    07-21-2016 10:59 AM
  9. Citizen Coyote's Avatar
    Thanks for the review, Phil. It's certainly more positive than the reviews I've seen on other sites. But that comparison brings up some questions...

    1. Ars Technica claims that the Moto Z does not have Android's multi-user support, that Lenovo stripped it out. Is this true?

    2. Ars also claims that a Moto rep told them Lenovo would not be bothering with providing security updates for the Moto Z/Z Force. Have you heard this? The fact that the Z is only running May's security patch (when there's no reason it shouldn't be running at least July's) is troubling for those of us who are concerned about security updates.

    Thanks!
    07-21-2016 11:02 AM
  10. Aquila's Avatar
    Are the TurboPower chargers using Qualcomm Quick Charge or USB Power Delivery?

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    Third this question. Obviously there's a third/fourth option, which is it doesn't support either or it could support both. But some details on whether or not it's going to be compatible with everyone's QC this and that they have hanging around and/or whether or not it's safe to use non stock chargers would be helpful.
    07-21-2016 11:02 AM
  11. Tom Westrick's Avatar
    Let me ask this a different way...

    With a battery mod effectively negating the battery boost on the force, what are the factors to consider when deciding? Camera and shatter resistant screen?

    Sent from my LG-V510 using Tapatalk
    And a larger base battery
    libra89 likes this.
    07-21-2016 11:02 AM
  12. bigsaxquatch's Avatar
    I live in an area with spotty Verizon coverage. My wife's iPhone can make pretty reliable calls from our house, but my HTC One M8 cannot. Can you say how well the Z's signal strength compares to that of other Android flagships? Does it live up to Motorola's reputation for good reception?
    tony bag o donuts likes this.
    07-21-2016 11:04 AM
  13. Tom Westrick's Avatar
    This may just be the way my brain works, but I'm just struggling to find the merit with these. For the same $60 as a battery back, I can buy an external battery with ports for every device I'd need it for.

    Likewise, for the $80 for the speaker back, I could buy a Bluetooth speaker that works with every device I'd connect it too. I could probably find one with NFC so pairing isn't a pain.

    Those may be clunkier than using the mods, but they're infinitely more useful.
    07-21-2016 11:06 AM
  14. libra89's Avatar
    Question:

    My apologies if this is similar to a question someone else asked. Considering that the Moto Z and Z Force are mostly the same, including screen size, what do you think was the point of having two of them? Or asking in a better way, aside from money savings, what is the point of the Moto Z?

    Great review by the way, appreciated how you mentioned the bloatware, because it seems like no one else is and I think that's in poor taste personally.
    07-21-2016 11:07 AM
  15. anon(9072051)'s Avatar
    There's a whole section on that in the review.
    Sorry bout that. I found out about the review bassackwards, as usual.
    Phil Nickinson likes this.
    07-21-2016 11:12 AM
  16. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Question:

    My apologies if this is similar to a question someone else asked. Considering that the Moto Z and Z Force are mostly the same, including screen size, what do you think was the point of having two of them? Or asking in a better way, aside from money savings, what is the point of the Moto Z?

    Great review by the way, appreciated how you mentioned the bloatware, because it seems like no one else is and I think that's in poor taste personally.
    More about battery, I think. (And Verizon wanting something exclusive.)
    libra89 likes this.
    07-21-2016 11:14 AM
  17. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    This may just be the way my brain works, but I'm just struggling to find the merit with these. For the same $60 as a battery back, I can buy an external battery with ports for every device I'd need it for.

    Likewise, for the $80 for the speaker back, I could buy a Bluetooth speaker that works with every device I'd connect it too. I could probably find one with NFC so pairing isn't a pain.

    Those may be clunkier than using the mods, but they're infinitely more useful.
    I think you have that right.
    07-21-2016 11:15 AM
  18. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Ars also claims that a Moto rep told them Lenovo would not be bothering with providing security updates for the Moto Z/Z Force. Have you heard this? The fact that the Z is only running May's security patch (when there's no reason it shouldn't be running at least July's) is troubling for those of us who are concerned about security updates.
    I'm eager to know too.

    If this is true, consider me done with anything Moto.
    07-21-2016 11:15 AM
  19. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    I live in an area with spotty Verizon coverage. My wife's iPhone can make pretty reliable calls from our house, but my HTC One M8 cannot. Can you say how well the Z's signal strength compares to that of other Android flagships? Does it live up to Motorola's reputation for good reception?
    Been great for me in NYC and Pensacola.
    07-21-2016 11:15 AM
  20. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Are the TurboPower chargers using Qualcomm Quick Charge or USB Power Delivery?

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    I think it's branded quick charge. A QC3.0 charger I have here triggered the "TurboPower" thing on the screen.
    07-21-2016 11:16 AM
  21. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Thanks for the review, Phil. It's certainly more positive than the reviews I've seen on other sites. But that comparison brings up some questions...

    1. Ars Technica claims that the Moto Z does not have Android's multi-user support, that Lenovo stripped it out. Is this true?

    2. Ars also claims that a Moto rep told them Lenovo would not be bothering with providing security updates for the Moto Z/Z Force. Have you heard this? The fact that the Z is only running May's security patch (when there's no reason it shouldn't be running at least July's) is troubling for those of us who are concerned about security updates.

    Thanks!
    I'm checking on this more. But Moto wouldn't be the only one to not hit the updates EVERY month, right?
    tony bag o donuts and sangs like this.
    07-21-2016 11:18 AM
  22. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    Thank you for your great review! I agree Moto Z's implementation of modular design is better than LG's G5. However does the very big chin with the off-centred fingerprint button and Moto log bother you?
    They're not centered?
    07-21-2016 11:19 AM
  23. Tom Westrick's Avatar
    Third this question. Obviously there's a third/fourth option, which is it doesn't support either or it could support both. But some details on whether or not it's going to be compatible with everyone's QC this and that they have hanging around and/or whether or not it's safe to use non stock chargers would be helpful.
    I may be wrong on this, but doesn't every phone with USB-C already have quick charging through USB Power Delivery? If so, it should work just fine with all USB-C ports.

    Also, even though it's branded as Turbo Power, if it IS Qualcomm quick charge, it will also quick charge other Qualcomm quick charge phones.

    (side note, talking about different standards makes my brain hurt)
    07-21-2016 11:20 AM
  24. Ry's Avatar
    I'm checking on this more. But Moto wouldn't be the only one to not hit the updates EVERY month, right?
    Exactly. No Motorola phone gets the security updates on a monthly basis.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    07-21-2016 11:21 AM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    I think it's branded quick charge. A QC3.0 charger I have here triggered the "TurboPower" thing on the screen.
    That's sad news. Granted, for 99% of consumers it'll be totally fine because they already have QC 2.0/3.0 accessories and those will all give them the same charging speeds safely - so no problem for most people. But for those of us with Nexus and Pixel chargers or other Benson approved peripherals, makes this thing potentially dangerous to use without being conscientious about which things it's being plugged into.
    07-21-2016 11:22 AM
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