1. mgorlets's Avatar
    Russell did a great job on his review. Good Samsung product placement. Good lies about the Z and also mentioned pokemon go. Glad to see he's earning that money they pay him.

    But the 10% claim is utter bs lol. I mean Russell if your going to lie already make it believable. Looks like your a puppet for Samsung attempting to do damage control by dragging other devices down. It's sad really because you lost all credibility . Your Samsung sponsored review is nothing more then the bitter opinion of someone who's hurt that the Note 7 has many issues and runs like crap. It's pretty painful to scroll on it there is so much lag.

    I'll trust every other review that gives the z high marks. I'll also trust the benchmarks where the z obliterates every other phone. I mean he'll it stomps them so hard I was about to call the U.N. in.

    Great review puppet. Glad to see you can't be trusted. I knew AC was payed off but now you just show that you will say anything for whoever puts money in your hand. Can't wait to see your review on the next nexus. Google pays well so you should give that phone nothing but the best remarks.

    Enjoy being a puppet and a known liar. Love the review.

    Also provide proof of that 10% battery drop in that amount of time. I saw you did not put up a screen shot to back that claim up lol. Again busting being a liar.
    08-24-2016 10:55 AM
  2. Russell Holly's Avatar
    08-24-2016 11:10 AM
  3. Aquila's Avatar
    Do you have a Z? I got the Z force for my wife. She's a fan.

    Link to the review we're talking about here: http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-z...ne-worth-using
    08-24-2016 11:13 AM
  4. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Russell did a great job on his review. Good Samsung product placement. Good lies about the Z and also mentioned pokemon go. Glad to see he's earning that money they pay him.

    But the 10% claim is utter bs lol. I mean Russell if your going to lie already make it believable. Looks like your a puppet for Samsung attempting to do damage control by dragging other devices down. It's sad really because you lost all credibility . Your Samsung sponsored review is nothing more then the bitter opinion of someone who's hurt that the Note 7 has many issues and runs like crap. It's pretty painful to scroll on it there is so much lag.

    I'll trust every other review that gives the z high marks. I'll also trust the benchmarks where the z obliterates every other phone. I mean he'll it stomps them so hard I was about to call the U.N. in.

    Great review puppet. Glad to see you can't be trusted. I knew AC was payed off but now you just show that you will say anything for whoever puts money in your hand. Can't wait to see your review on the next nexus. Google pays well so you should give that phone nothing but the best remarks.

    Enjoy being a puppet and a known liar. Love the review.

    Also provide proof of that 10% battery drop in that amount of time. I saw you did not put up a screen shot to back that claim up lol. Again busting being a liar.
    I literally don't know how you came to the conclusion that Russell is a paid Samsung shill. 90% of the article was gushing about the awesome features of the phone. It seems to fail in two areas, camera and software updates.

    A flagship phone in 2016 should not have a camera that can't point and shoot reliably good pics and the Z falls short of that.

    AC has also stated that they're going to put more emphasis on security and software updates, so Moto went in to the Z with a poor track record on this front.

    Those are just facts. You can not like them, but you can't deny them. The camera is not in the same league as the S7, 10, or G5. The S7 was chosen as the best overall phone by AC so by all accounts they are going to compare every other flagship to it. That's just the right way to do it.

    I wonder how much the conclusion would change if this was the Z Force with the larger battery and better camera (and higher price, which also raises the bar even more).
    08-24-2016 11:28 AM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    The Z Force is more battery, better camera (IMO by a lot) and same exact security afaik.
    08-24-2016 11:31 AM
  6. sangs's Avatar
    Russell did a great job on his review. Good Samsung product placement. Good lies about the Z and also mentioned pokemon go. Glad to see he's earning that money they pay him.

    But the 10% claim is utter bs lol. I mean Russell if your going to lie already make it believable. Looks like your a puppet for Samsung attempting to do damage control by dragging other devices down. It's sad really because you lost all credibility . Your Samsung sponsored review is nothing more then the bitter opinion of someone who's hurt that the Note 7 has many issues and runs like crap. It's pretty painful to scroll on it there is so much lag.

    I'll trust every other review that gives the z high marks. I'll also trust the benchmarks where the z obliterates every other phone. I mean he'll it stomps them so hard I was about to call the U.N. in.

    Great review puppet. Glad to see you can't be trusted. I knew AC was payed off but now you just show that you will say anything for whoever puts money in your hand. Can't wait to see your review on the next nexus. Google pays well so you should give that phone nothing but the best remarks.

    Enjoy being a puppet and a known liar. Love the review.

    Also provide proof of that 10% battery drop in that amount of time. I saw you did not put up a screen shot to back that claim up lol. Again busting being a liar.
    Did we read the same review? Because I thought it was very fair and balanced - and not in a Fox News sort of way. (Then again, this could just be a first-post hit-and-run poster. Looking to start a war. In a Fox News sort of way!)
    08-24-2016 11:47 AM
  7. mobrules's Avatar
    "call the U.N. in"..... That cracked me up
    08-24-2016 11:52 AM
  8. metacuate's Avatar
    Russell did a great job on his review. Good Samsung product placement. Good lies about the Z and also mentioned pokemon go. Glad to see he's earning that money they pay him.

    But the 10% claim is utter bs lol. I mean Russell if your going to lie already make it believable. Looks like your a puppet for Samsung attempting to do damage control by dragging other devices down. It's sad really because you lost all credibility . Your Samsung sponsored review is nothing more then the bitter opinion of someone who's hurt that the Note 7 has many issues and runs like crap. It's pretty painful to scroll on it there is so much lag.

    I'll trust every other review that gives the z high marks. I'll also trust the benchmarks where the z obliterates every other phone. I mean he'll it stomps them so hard I was about to call the U.N. in.

    Great review puppet. Glad to see you can't be trusted. I knew AC was payed off but now you just show that you will say anything for whoever puts money in your hand. Can't wait to see your review on the next nexus. Google pays well so you should give that phone nothing but the best remarks.

    Enjoy being a puppet and a known liar. Love the review.

    Also provide proof of that 10% battery drop in that amount of time. I saw you did not put up a screen shot to back that claim up lol. Again busting being a liar.
    I disagreed with that second look review too, but I'm using the force so maybe the normal Z isn't as good as this phone.
    08-24-2016 12:22 PM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    Updated title and moving to the Z Droid forum.
    08-24-2016 12:22 PM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    Russell did a great job on his review. Good Samsung product placement. Good lies about the Z and also mentioned pokemon go. Glad to see he's earning that money they pay him.

    But the 10% claim is utter bs lol. I mean Russell if your going to lie already make it believable. Looks like your a puppet for Samsung attempting to do damage control by dragging other devices down. It's sad really because you lost all credibility . Your Samsung sponsored review is nothing more then the bitter opinion of someone who's hurt that the Note 7 has many issues and runs like crap. It's pretty painful to scroll on it there is so much lag.

    I'll trust every other review that gives the z high marks. I'll also trust the benchmarks where the z obliterates every other phone. I mean he'll it stomps them so hard I was about to call the U.N. in.

    Great review puppet. Glad to see you can't be trusted. I knew AC was payed off but now you just show that you will say anything for whoever puts money in your hand. Can't wait to see your review on the next nexus. Google pays well so you should give that phone nothing but the best remarks.

    Enjoy being a puppet and a known liar. Love the review.

    Also provide proof of that 10% battery drop in that amount of time. I saw you did not put up a screen shot to back that claim up lol. Again busting being a liar.
    Russell's points justified why I got the Z Force over the Moto Z.
    Russell Holly and Aquila like this.
    08-24-2016 12:24 PM
  11. dbregman's Avatar

    AC has also stated that they're going to put more emphasis on security and software updates, so Moto went in to the Z with a poor track record on this front.
    Then (sadly) they should really dis any VZW phone. While Lenovo has not yet proven IF they will provide timely updates, VZW has proven they will not - regardless of what the manufacturer does.
    08-24-2016 02:06 PM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    Then (sadly) they should really dis any VZW phone. While Lenovo has not yet proven IF they will provide timely updates, VZW has proven they will not - regardless of what the manufacturer does.
    ...have you seen how often the latest Samsung phones on Verizon are getting updated?
    08-24-2016 02:23 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    I disagreed with that second look review too, but I'm using the force so maybe the normal Z isn't as good as this phone.
    Phil should have broken the Z Force AFTER Russell got a chance to give a second opinion. lol.
    Aquila likes this.
    08-24-2016 02:24 PM
  14. Aquila's Avatar
    Russell's points justified why I got the Z Force over the Moto Z.
    This is exactly what I was thinking too.
    08-24-2016 02:36 PM
  15. Aquila's Avatar
    Then (sadly) they should really dis any VZW phone. While Lenovo has not yet proven IF they will provide timely updates, VZW has proven they will not - regardless of what the manufacturer does.
    Other than the S7, S7 Edge, Note 7, right?
    08-24-2016 02:37 PM
  16. benjamminh's Avatar
    I think a better comparison would have been with the Force with its better camera and much larger battery. But I don't need anyone to validate my choices if I'm satisfied.
    Connert likes this.
    08-24-2016 05:16 PM
  17. doggy2965's Avatar
    I have the Force edition so I have none of the battery or camera issues. I also have the note 7 which is going back and the nexus 6p. I've found the Force edition is the better of the 3 for everyday use. better battery and signal strength than the 6p. And better battery (way better) and less bloat and lag and feels better in my hand than the note. I actually thought the reviewer reviewed the wrong phone should have been force edition and also he did nit pick the Moto Z for battery life against the s7 which has terrible battery life also and only has a better cam than the Z. Z is faster and even with Verizon bloat it still has less bloat than the s7. Not sure why he knocked the updates because of internet rumors it's clearly to early to know how they will be. But I will guess they will be better than Samsung updates which are the worst in the industry.
    08-25-2016 01:03 AM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    I have the Force edition so I have none of the battery or camera issues. I also have the note 7 which is going back and the nexus 6p. I've found the Force edition is the better of the 3 for everyday use. better battery and signal strength than the 6p. And better battery (way better) and less bloat and lag and feels better in my hand than the note. I actually thought the reviewer reviewed the wrong phone should have been force edition and also he did nit pick the Moto Z for battery life against the s7 which has terrible battery life also and only has a better cam than the Z. Z is faster and even with Verizon bloat it still has less bloat than the s7. Not sure why he knocked the updates because of internet rumors it's clearly to early to know how they will be. But I will guess they will be better than Samsung updates which are the worst in the industry.
    Samsung is currently third best on updating Android on their flagship devices. They're kicking out monthly security updates consistently and quickly. Only Blackberry and Nexus are doing better.

    Moto has said that they will do security updates as part of their update schedule, but they are not planning to do an OTA each month. Our current expectations based on their performance over the last year will be that they release one update every three months or so.
    08-25-2016 06:46 AM
  19. doggy2965's Avatar
    Samsung is currently third best on updating Android on their flagship devices. They're kicking out monthly security updates consistently and quickly. Only Blackberry and Nexus are doing better.

    Moto has said that they will do security updates as part of their update schedule, but they are not planning to do an OTA each month. Our current expectations based on their performance over the last year will be that they release one update every three months or so.
    Samsung is third for security updates and tied for last for all other updates and the worst when it comes to problems with updates
    08-27-2016 12:36 PM
  20. dbregman's Avatar
    Then (sadly) they should really dis any VZW phone. While Lenovo has not yet proven IF they will provide timely updates, VZW has proven they will not - regardless of what the manufacturer does.
    Interesting...

    Report shows Motorola is the fastest to roll out updates, but you already knew that Report shows Motorola is the fastest to roll out updates, but you already knew that | Android Central
    08-31-2016 09:13 AM
  21. TwoBuells's Avatar
    I don't understand the bad review, I bought the Moto Z on the release date, Received a OTA update and a Moto Mod update for the JBL Speaker. Battery life is great and the camera is fine. I disabled the apps I don't use and the phone is crisp and fast. The Only issue I had was my finger print sensor lost one of my fingers and I had to reset all five twice.
    09-05-2016 12:28 PM
  22. travaz's Avatar
    I had the Moto Pure edition and decided that I should try the s7 edge. It was ok but I really couldn't stand the touch wiz. The edge screen kept launching apps and the finger print sensor was so so. I lasted about 6 weeks with it and traded it in for 327.00 on VZW and bought the Z force. I really didn't like the edge. I do however love the Z force. Glad i bought it.
    09-05-2016 07:53 PM
  23. stonefox801's Avatar
    I don't understand the bad review, I bought the Moto Z on the release date, Received a OTA update and a Moto Mod update for the JBL Speaker. Battery life is great and the camera is fine. I disabled the apps I don't use and the phone is crisp and fast. The Only issue I had was my finger print sensor lost one of my fingers and I had to reset all five twice.

    Its clearly a bias opinion since this is the only negative review out. My guess is to take off some of the heat from the Note 7 they been pushing hard core. Same reason why the Iphone 7 has not been mentioned but the new PS4 has. Damage control for Samsung. I find his claim in the battery life complete b.s. If there was a drop that bad there would of been a screen shot of it proving it. Yet there is nothing. And we know for a fact 10% of the zforce is around an hour of OST and 6 hours of the phone off the charger
    09-07-2016 11:27 PM
  24. wonderbread's Avatar
    Security and Nougat update rolled out pretty fast for this phone.
    12-08-2016 02:17 PM
  25. Ry's Avatar
    Security and Nougat update rolled out pretty fast for this phone.
    Curious to see how Lenovo will keep up this coming Summer.
    benjamminh likes this.
    12-09-2016 04:14 PM

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