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  1. Ry's Avatar
    Just started using this app but looks like the Power Pack Moto Mods (prior to having the on/off switch) and overnight charging have wrecked my battery in roughly 22 months of use.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...es.accubattery

    Not much data, just recently started using this app and have been switching between this Moto Z Force Droid and a Moto Z2 Play.



    05-30-2018 01:23 PM
  2. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Wow you really beat that thing up!
    05-30-2018 04:23 PM
  3. benjamminh's Avatar
    My first Z Force I had for 19 months, never charged it overnight, didn't leave a mod battery on it and used the accubattery app (charging to 70-80%) and it only degraded to 94%. My factory rehab came at 95% and has stayed there after a few months.
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    05-30-2018 06:04 PM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    My first Z Force I had for 19 months, never charged it overnight, didn't leave a mod battery on it and used the accubattery app (charging to 70-80%) and it only degraded to 94%. My factory rehab came at 95% and has stayed there after a few months.
    Nice!
    05-30-2018 06:04 PM
  5. HowardL168's Avatar
    Just started using this app but looks like the Power Pack Moto Mods (prior to having the on/off switch) and overnight charging have wrecked my battery in roughly 22 months of use.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...es.accubattery

    Not much data, just recently started using this app and have been switching between this Moto Z Force Droid and a Moto Z2 Play.

    https://i.imgur.com/dRIw2ez.png

    https://i.imgur.com/mvp2FKQ.png
    Oh S#!|, I was not aware overnight charging was bad...I thought when the device hits 100%, it prevents overcharging?! I almost always have the MOTO on charge overnight...no wonder the battery only lasts 12-14 hrs (at best) as opposed to a full day+ when I first got it!
    06-18-2018 04:52 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    Oh S#!|, I was not aware overnight charging was bad...I thought when the device hits 100%, it prevents overcharging?! I almost always have the MOTO on charge overnight...no wonder the battery only lasts 12-14 hrs (at best) as opposed to a full day+ when I first got it!
    If I understand it correctly, it's more of the case where it's at 100% then trickles down below some threshold then recharges again to 100%.

    The more I read, the more I see charging when above 80% is not healthy.
    06-18-2018 04:59 PM
  7. HowardL168's Avatar
    If I understand it correctly, it's more of the case where it's at 100% then trickles down below some threshold then recharges again to 100%.

    The more I read, the more I see charging when above 80% is not healthy.
    Oh, well hopefully it's just the "trickle/recharge" case, which I "never" do...if it's at 90-100% at bedtime (because I've charged late in the day, then I'll leave it off charge until the next day.
    06-18-2018 05:04 PM
  8. HowardL168's Avatar
    If I understand it correctly, it's more of the case where it's at 100% then trickles down below some threshold then recharges again to 100%.

    The more I read, the more I see charging when above 80% is not healthy.
    I forgot to ask one more thing...well maybe 2.

    1. I use my Moto Z for "everything"!...including navigation, even though I have Navi in my car, because online navigation provides traffic routing. Anyway, when doing this, since GPS is a big drain, I usually keep the phone on car charge. Does this also more negatively affect the battery?
    06-18-2018 05:15 PM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    I forgot to ask one more thing...well maybe 2.

    1. I use my Moto Z for "everything"!...including navigation, even though I have Navi in my car, because online navigation provides traffic routing. Anyway, when doing this, since GPS is a big drain, I usually keep the phone on car charge. Does this also more negatively affect the battery?
    Based on the 40% to 80% rule, yes - if you're plugged in when over 80%.
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    06-18-2018 05:26 PM
  10. HowardL168's Avatar
    Thanks @Ry
    06-18-2018 06:02 PM
  11. HowardL168's Avatar
    Based on the 40% to 80% rule, yes - if you're plugged in when over 80%.
    Yeah, I had read that the battery was at peak "performance" in this range, so I figured it was best to wait until under 40 before charging

    Any thoughts yet on the upgrade as a whole? Problems? Like I said, I use my Moto for so much, and despite the battery drain, the performance of every appi use and need is good...want to.make sure I hear some feedback before pulling the trigger on the update
    06-18-2018 06:06 PM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    Yeah, I had read that the battery was at peak "performance" in this range, so I figured it was best to wait until under 40 before charging

    Any thoughts yet on the upgrade as a whole? Problems? Like I said, I use my Moto for so much, and despite the battery drain, the performance of every appi use and need is good...want to.make sure I hear some feedback before pulling the trigger on the update
    My device isn't updated.
    06-18-2018 10:10 PM
  13. HowardL168's Avatar
    My device isn't updated.
    Are you not going to upgrade?
    06-18-2018 11:44 PM
  14. Ry's Avatar
    Are you not going to upgrade?
    Are you referring to Oreo or my Moto Z2 Play?
    06-18-2018 11:45 PM
  15. HowardL168's Avatar
    Are you referring to Oreo or my Moto Z2 Play?
    You commented that you weren't yet upgraded, in was wondering if you were holding off upgrading to Oreo
    06-18-2018 11:48 PM
  16. HowardL168's Avatar
    Based on the 40% to 80% rule, yes - if you're plugged in when over 80%.
    So, if I'm on a 4 hour drive, am I supposed to unplug from the car charge periodically along the way? I've been lazy and kept it on the charger the whole time.
    06-21-2018 12:44 AM
  17. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    So, if I'm on a 4 hour drive, am I supposed to unplug from the car charge periodically along the way? I've been lazy and kept it on the charger the whole time.
    Only if you're trying to maximize battery longevity.
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    06-21-2018 06:40 AM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    So, if I'm on a 4 hour drive, am I supposed to unplug from the car charge periodically along the way? I've been lazy and kept it on the charger the whole time.
    Kinda yeah.
    06-21-2018 02:54 PM
  19. HowardL168's Avatar
    Kinda yeah.
    Ok, thanks. I have to say, though...and this is just my "logic"...but given how using GPS/Map-routing drains the battery (and thus, I'll be charging up and utilizing another cycle or 2) it seems to me that might not be much different from keeping the device plugged in at 100%.
    06-21-2018 03:38 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    Ok, thanks. I have to say, though...and this is just my "logic"...but given how using GPS/Map-routing drains the battery (and thus, I'll be charging up and utilizing another cycle or 2) it seems to me that might not be much different from keeping the device plugged in at 100%.
    When you get bored enough...

    https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/e...nd-methodology
    06-21-2018 05:41 PM
  21. HowardL168's Avatar
    LOL Thanks Ry! I'd say I will save this for "rainy day reading" but "it never rains here in Southern California"! So it will either be for "Library" (i.e. bathroom) time...or maybe for late night putting me to sleep?!

    Seriously, Thanks!
    06-21-2018 07:07 PM
  22. HowardL168's Avatar
    So I'm trying to be patient knowing it takes a few days after an update for the phone to "settle down" but it's now almost a week and the battery life is.still not good...in fact last night, heeding your "don't charge if over 40%", I left it off charge overnight...usually idle overnight it would only go down 3 to 5%...I woke this.morning and it was off...down to 0!
    06-23-2018 05:16 PM
  23. benjamminh's Avatar
    So I'm trying to be patient knowing it takes a few days after an update for the phone to "settle down" but it's now almost a week and the battery life is.still not good...in fact last night, heeding your "don't charge if over 40%", I left it off charge overnight...usually idle overnight it would only go down 3 to 5%...I woke this.morning and it was off...down to 0!
    You've misunderstood the information. You should charge at 40% and don't charge beyond 70-80% if possible. Obviously there are times that's not feasible or realistic.
    06-23-2018 08:58 PM
  24. Ry's Avatar
    You've misunderstood the information. You should charge at 40% and don't charge beyond 70-80% if possible. Obviously there are times that's not feasible or realistic.
    Yep.
    06-23-2018 10:27 PM
  25. HowardL168's Avatar
    Yep.
    So if at bedtime I'm at 38%, charge overnight (and not worry it will obviously get to 100% before I wake)?
    06-23-2018 11:05 PM
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