Moto Z4 Announced...

[benjamminh]

Black Friday/Cyber Monday it will likely be 10-12 dollars a month, even for existing customers at Verizon. I am interested to see reviews of it and if it gets a good Google camera port. I have a good camera port for the Z3 and it makes a big difference, especially in low light.

 

[Scott337]

A few places have reported rumors that Verizon will sell it for $10 a month if you have an upgrade available and agree to their monthly payment plan. That would make me use my "upgrade" and agree to 24 monthly payments..... probably

 

[benjamminh]

The Z4 should have its own forum at this point.

 

[TigerCourage]

It would be a downgrade in processor at least for raw power, but probably more efficient. I'm very interested to see how the camera performs given Moto phones generally struggle there.

Camera is miles ahead of the Z3 and the Z2 Force.

 

[Scott337]

The Z4 should have its own forum at this point.

Hopefully it will soon

 

[George Wood1]

I just want a true Moto flagship, no mods for me. Moto X and Motorola Droid Turbo... Those were the days.

 

[Scott337]

I owned both of those phones and they were great, along with many many other Moto phones. I think the Z4 might be great also, or at least really good. As others have stated..true "flagship" phones aren't selling really good right now for anyone. But the $500 and under range is selling great. Moto recognizes that, so why make a "flagship" > $700 + phone? As others have posted they are selling great in Latin America and India. They are finally profitable under Lenovo, so why change the business model that is working.

I hope this trend in "flagship" phones not selling well for anyone (even the mighty Samsung) forces all manufacturers to reconsider their pricing and stop the price increases year after year. Who the heck needs to spend $1000 or more on a phone? A phone?

 

[anon(5101585)]

I feel like it should be 50-100 bucks cheaper... sucks Verizon customers are the only ones who can get a better deal, and the white version of the device.

That said, I plan to buy it. I'm still using my original Moto Z Play, and I'm bought into (and love) the Mod system. I don't need a flagship device (nor do I want to spend almost 1k on one). So I think the Z4 will work for me.

 

[Scott337]

The unlocked version for $499 comes with the 360 Camera Mod. So that's not a bad deal for folks that get the phone and camera bundled together. And if they don't want the Camera Mod they could always sell it.

 

[AllenRulz]

I'm seriously stuck and don't know whether to upgrade my Moto Z Play (first edition) to the Z4 or wait until the Asus Zenfone 6 comes to the US. But now I read some thing about asus not allowing the branding for Zenfone so idk what's up with that situation.

 

[Ry]

I'm down with it.

 

[Ry]

I just want a true Moto flagship, no mods for me. Moto X and Motorola Droid Turbo... Those were the days.

That's not where the money is so Moto's being smart not playing in that space right now. They're finally making money by putting out great "mid-range" devices.

 

[AllenRulz]

I'm down with it.

Would you choose Asus ZenFone or Moto Z4? Lol.

 

[Scott337]

Moto Z4

 

[xeene]

Side Note: The thing that seems to perplex her about Android is the choices, so many different ways to do the same thing. She's been locked down so long the freedom to choose is confusing.

That was my EXACT feeling when I moved from USSR to USA.

 

[benjamminh]

The only thing that has surprised me from some reviews are complaints about it not being smooth which would be unusual. Then other reviews don't mention that.

 

[xeene]

It's probably not as smooth as something that's running sd 855 during stress test in lab environment, but in day to day daily tasks I haven't noticed even a miniscule hickup due to lack of power.

 

[benjamminh]

<How do you like it so far?

 

[xeene]

Coming from z play, it's the best phone in the world! The major improvement I noticed is screen size, camera quality and speaker volume. The battery size only increased by 100mah but this phone lasts me about 30% longer on single charge then my 3 year old z play, still much better then smaller 3k batteries in z2 and z3.

Now just hope someone makes a bumper case for it so it can be protected while allowing mod changes. For now I bought a cheap $3 tpu case on Amazon and cut out the back to make a bumper out of it but tpu is too soft and sides flex a lot. Even then the 360 camera is unusable with a bumper. So if you want those 360° pictures you got to risk being naked.

 

[benjamminh]

Usually Verizon is pretty good about releasing a bumper case so hopefully they will. I would think that would be a big upgrade. Congrats!