08-23-2017 11:37 AM
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  1. dpham00's Avatar
    I realize that battery size isn't the only aspect affecting battery life but i just feel that 2730mah is a bit small... I don't think that the battery life will match the moto z force.
    07-24-2017 03:56 PM
  2. cohoman's Avatar
    That's also a concern for me... I don't want to have less battery life than my current phone (Samsung S7).
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    07-25-2017 06:33 AM
  3. 1901Madison's Avatar
    Heck yeah. Going from 3500 to 2730 is horrible.
    07-25-2017 09:03 AM
  4. Mason Sell's Avatar
    I definitely wish they didn't decrease the battery size, but real life tests will determine the effects of the diminutive battery... Though I don't have high expectations and a battery mod will likely be essentially required. Which would be why they included the projector mod and not a battery mod for the promotion.
    07-25-2017 01:40 PM
  5. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    As a former Verizon rep I can tell you the 2 main reasons people bought a Motorola phone instead of Samsung. One was durability, they had actual Kevlar on them and took a beating. The other was battery life, people loved the large batteries.

    I think this will hurt their sales.
    07-25-2017 02:01 PM
  6. shadowsjc's Avatar
    Yes. This was a short sighted way to promote their stupid mods. They are probably banking on people purchasing the battery mod in order to get the same battery life that the last gen phone already had. Incredibly stupid. I hope other people vote with their wallets and skip this crappy release

    I am on the fence about what to buy instead. Leaning towards a g5 plus as a stopgap till next year, but I really don't want to give Moto any more of my money.
    07-25-2017 05:47 PM
  7. Ry's Avatar
    I think it's too small.
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    07-25-2017 07:22 PM
  8. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Of course it's too small. Is this a trick question?
    benjamminh likes this.
    07-25-2017 09:27 PM
  9. benjamminh's Avatar
    It seems like we may have seen the last Droid as well. I'm not sure if the licensing agreement ran out or not between Lucas and Verizon. Motorola and Droid were a great combination but I think it's time for something new.
    07-25-2017 09:32 PM
  10. Mike Dee's Avatar
    it seems like everyone is in agreement. battery is way too small. consumers who are battery aware want bigger batteries.
    07-25-2017 10:01 PM
  11. David Martrano's Avatar
    This is Lenovo's premium flagship and you downgrade the battery to 2730mamp. Why, that was the # 2 best selling feature outside of the shattershield. Does this make any kind of sense? For me, I definitely think this will effect sales without question!
    08-06-2017 04:23 PM
  12. turbochgd's Avatar
    I think Motorola backed themselves into somewhat of a corner when they released the original thicker Z Force and Z Play. Both great phones, but for most people too thick to use with Moto mods on any regular basis. And the whole idea behind the Z lineup was modularity.

    The one original Z phone that really worked well with this concept was the Moto Z / Z Droid. But after they decided they'd have to thin down the Z Force and Z Play to get customers interested in purchasing more Moto mods, there was no longer the need for the Moto Z / Z Droid in this year's lineup.

    That's my take on what's currently going on. I'm sure they would not have lowered the battery sizes on either of the new phones if they could have made them thinner without doing so. It was all about the mods, which is really the point of the phone to start with.
    08-07-2017 02:46 AM
  13. Photo_Drew's Avatar
    in order to mass market the phone they compromised and made it thinner, effectively making a Moto Z with shatter shield.

    I have the z as a work phone and z Force as my phone. I like using the z for longer periods because of the lightness.

    hands in with the Z2 Force, it's crazy light. yeah battery might not be as good but with a turbo charger and a mod, it doesn't have to last the whole day. just long enough to get home and I'll top it up when I'm making dinner. no big deal
    08-07-2017 09:09 PM
  14. metacuate's Avatar
    in order to mass market the phone they compromised and made it thinner, effectively making a Moto Z with shatter shield.

    I have the z as a work phone and z Force as my phone. I like using the z for longer periods because of the lightness.

    hands in with the Z2 Force, it's crazy light. yeah battery might not be as good but with a turbo charger and a mod, it doesn't have to last the whole day. just long enough to get home and I'll top it up when I'm making dinner. no big deal
    Exactly. But to be honest I am getting better life with this than with my S8 plus. Not sure why, other than less garbage software on top.
    08-12-2017 12:57 PM
  15. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    in order to mass market the phone they compromised and made it thinner, effectively making a Moto Z with shatter shield.

    I have the z as a work phone and z Force as my phone. I like using the z for longer periods because of the lightness.

    hands in with the Z2 Force, it's crazy light. yeah battery might not be as good but with a turbo charger and a mod, it doesn't have to last the whole day. just long enough to get home and I'll top it up when I'm making dinner. no big deal
    Battery mods are great and all, but I haven't had a phone with less than 3000mah since my S3 in 2012. Smaller battery equals more charge cycles over the same period of time, which means replacing the phone sooner.
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    08-12-2017 01:11 PM
  16. benjamminh's Avatar
    I think the fact that capacity is generally lost over time (although I'm somewhat of a believer of keeping a phone between 40 and 80%) so a smaller sized battery over time can be a concern.
    08-12-2017 04:53 PM
  17. Murph5150's Avatar
    That's the one caveat as to why I'm not purchasing it to replace my S7 Edge. Battery life. Even with the mods, the current mAh is unacceptable.
    08-13-2017 06:41 PM
  18. mhettrich's Avatar
    I've had no problem with battery life thus far, even without a mod. Moto must have done a great job with software optimizations.
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    08-13-2017 07:28 PM
  19. Gdwheel's Avatar
    I've had no problem with battery life thus far, even without a mod. Moto must have done a great job with software optimizations.
    Same for me.
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    08-13-2017 07:58 PM
  20. Morty2264's Avatar
    I love the Moto series, but a battery of that size does concern me.
    08-13-2017 09:16 PM
  21. somnambulator's Avatar
    I've had no problem with battery life thus far, even without a mod. Moto must have done a great job with software optimizations.
    I was very concerned about battery life but I've had the phone since Tuesday and it's really not bad. I'll still waiting for the new turbo power battery mod to be available on the Verizon business portal. it's not in stock in any vzw store in a 500 mile radius but is available online on the consumer site. emailed my rep about it today. hopefully he can order one for me tomorrow. even if the stock phone ends up with decent battery life I can keep the mod in my car or pack for day trips and not have to worry
    08-13-2017 11:20 PM
  22. soma4society's Avatar
    I was very concerned about battery life but I've had the phone since Tuesday and it's really not bad. I'll still waiting for the new turbo power battery mod to be available on the Verizon business portal. it's not in stock in any vzw store in a 500 mile radius but is available online on the consumer site. emailed my rep about it today. hopefully he can order one for me tomorrow. even if the stock phone ends up with decent battery life I can keep the mod in my car or pack for day trips and not have to worry
    With a phone that thin you may also want to consider the new (and currently available) external Power pack mod from Moto. It's 2200mah and is really low profile. I absolutely love it on my OG z Play. That'd give you an effective 5000mah give or take. Plenty.

    Plus best buy has them 10% off an already great price. Food for thought.
    08-13-2017 11:34 PM
  23. somnambulator's Avatar
    With a phone that thin you may also want to consider the new (and currently available) external Power pack mod from Moto. It's 2200mah and is really low profile. I absolutely love it on my OG z Play. That'd give you an effective 5000mah give or take. Plenty.

    Plus best buy has them 10% off an already great price. Food for thought.
    the new battery mod from Moto is 3500 and is the same thickness, supposedly, as the 2700mah one from last year. also it can be turbo charged itself via usb-c and also turbo charges the phone at 15w. it's a big improvement on both the previous battery mods. it's supposed to be out now for Verizon customers but I've only seen it for sale on the consumer website.
    08-13-2017 11:38 PM
  24. soma4society's Avatar
    the new battery mod from Moto is 3500 and is the same thickness, supposedly, as the 2700mah one from last year. also it can be turbo charged itself via usb-c and also turbo charges the phone at 15w. it's a big improvement on both the previous battery mods. it's supposed to be out now for Verizon customers but I've only seen it for sale on the consumer website.
    Yeah, there are advantages to the turbo mod. Just depends on your needs/prefs I guess. For me, a mod as thick as the 2016 z play is just too chunky to leave on all the time. And carrying it around separately to occasionally quick charge the phone is a bit of a hassle imho. I'd rather have something that I can just treat as part of the phone and forget it's there that provides all day battery life plus some.

    Hopefully the thing drops for you soon. They delayed the launch back in spring and have missed their updated release date.
    08-14-2017 09:28 AM
  25. rwohler13's Avatar
    we went on a weekend get away and left the house with 83 percent and after six straight hours of full on screen navagation I still had 9 percent left. So I think that was very good. THen saturday left the cabin at 8:15am with 100 percent and got back at 8:30pm and still had 15 percent left. Jt did normal activities. Anyway those are my real world reviews.
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    08-14-2017 12:15 PM
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