1. dpham00's Avatar
    Android Central released the full specs for Z2 Force

    https://m.androidcentral.com/moto-z2...-edition-specs

    Operating SystemAndroid 7.1.1 Nougat
    Display5.5-inch 1440p Super AMOLED
    ShatterShield shatterproof display
    ProcessorQualcomm Snapdragon 835 octa-core
    GPUAdreno 540
    RAM4GB (U.S.)
    6GB (ROW)
    Storage64GB (U.S.)
    128GB (China)
    ExpandableYes, up to 2TB
    Battery2730mAh
    ChargingUSB-C
    15W TurboPower fast charging
    Water resistanceWater-repellent nano-coating
    Not waterproof
    Rear Camera 112MP (1.25µm pixels) color sensor
    f/2.0, PDAF
    laser-assisted autofocus
    Rear Camera 212MP (1.25µm pixels) monochrome sensor
    f/2.0, PDAF
    laser-assisted autofocus
    Front Camera5MP f/2.2
    85-degree wide-angle lens
    Front-facing dual-tone flash
    ConnectivityGigabit LTE (X16 baseband)
    802.11 a/b/g/n/ac dual-band
    Bluetooth 5.0 (after Android O update)
    Moto Mods support
    SecurityOne-touch front fingerprint sensor
    SIMNano-SIM slot
    NetworkU.S. unlocked (AT&T / T-Mobile): LTE: B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40, 41-Japan & China, 66, 252, 255
    U.S. Sprint: CDMA: BC 0, 1, 10 LTE: B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 40, 41-Japan & China, 66, 252, 255
    U.S. Verizon & US Cellular: CDMA: BC 0, 1 LTE: B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25, 26, 28, 66
    ROW: CDMA: BC 0, 1, 10 LTE: B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41-Japan & China TD-SCDMA: BC34, 39
    Dimensions155.8 x 76 x 6.1 mm
    Weight143 g
    ColorsSuper Black
    Fine Gold
    Lunar Grey (T-Mobile-only)
    07-25-2017 12:36 PM
  2. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Impressive but the screen is too small for me. Like the concept of
    the mods but the only thing I'm interested in is the projector. Battery is a no go. Anemic.

    Love what they're doing just wish I could be more enthusiastic about the actual product. Want as many viable competitors e/Samsung as possible.
    07-25-2017 12:46 PM
  3. Ben_70's Avatar
    Small battery, no real water protection, no headphone jack and an $800 price tag. Disappointed to say the least.
    shadowsjc likes this.
    07-25-2017 12:52 PM
  4. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Postscript: the weight is 143 g while the S8 is 173. Not a hugh difference. I imagine with certain mods we're talking a couple of pounds (exaggeration). I personally don't mind the extra heft and weight but I expect alot of consumers will.
    07-25-2017 12:57 PM
  5. Ry's Avatar
    I wonder if the TurboPower 30 will charge this faster.
    07-26-2017 01:57 PM
  6. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Android Central released the full specs for Z2 Force

    https://m.androidcentral.com/moto-z2...-edition-specs


    Rear Camera 112MP (1.25µm pixels) color sensor
    f/2.0, PDAF
    laser-assisted autofocus
    Rear Camera 212MP (1.25µm pixels) monochrome sensor
    f/2.0, PDAF
    laser-assisted autofocus
    This is a typo. The camera is a dual lens with 12 MP on both lenses.

    Unfortunately, the lack of optical image stabilization is not a typo.
    benjamminh likes this.
    07-26-2017 02:19 PM
  7. jlost's Avatar
    Small battery, no real water protection, no headphone jack and an $800 price tag. Disappointed to say the least.
    Small battery so you buy the battery add on.
    07-26-2017 03:04 PM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    I believe the rear camera is Sony IMX 386 (12 MP, 1/2.9" RGB and Monochrome sensors, 1.25µm pixel size)
    07-26-2017 03:06 PM
  9. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Small battery so you buy the battery add on.
    You buy the battery pack and then are prevented from using the camera mod. That's a no go.
    07-26-2017 03:29 PM
  10. benjamminh's Avatar
    Without OIS they better have awesome EIS like the Pixels do. It will need better processing overall to compete with other flagship phones.
    07-26-2017 04:04 PM
  11. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I believe the rear camera is Sony IMX 386 (12 MP, 1/2.9" RGB and Monochrome sensors, 1.25µm pixel size)
    Yes, 2014 is calling and they want their camera back.
    07-26-2017 04:17 PM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    Yes, 2014 is calling and they want their camera back.
    Who was using a dual setup with similar specs in 2014?
    Mike-Mike likes this.
    07-26-2017 05:08 PM
  13. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Who was using a dial-in setup with similar specs in 2014?
    I am referring to 12MP, f2.0, and no OIS.
    07-26-2017 05:32 PM
  14. Mike-Mike's Avatar
    isn't the Sony IMX 386 the same camera that is in the Pixel that everyone loveS?
    07-27-2017 09:58 AM
  15. benjamminh's Avatar
    isn't the Sony IMX 386 the same camera that is in the Pixel that everyone loveS?
    It is a different sensor. Pixel uses a 378 which uses a larger sensor and has larger pixels. Plus the Pixel camera has outstanding processing. We'll see how the Z2 Force does. I think the Z Force 2016 camera, while not the best, is very good at least.
    07-27-2017 12:46 PM
  16. Mike-Mike's Avatar
    to be clear, I know jack about cameras. I had the Z Force, and i actually wasn't crazy about it. I liked the V20 and S8+ better, but at the time, the Z Force scored very high on DXO (this was before everyone hated them due to One Plus):

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/photog...-moto-z-force/

    DxOMark gave the Moto Z Force’s camera an overall score of 87, which is one point behind both the HTC 10 and Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. That also puts the Moto Z Force in line with the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus, and Sony Experia Z5, all receiving the same score. That’s followed by the LG G5, Samsung Galaxy Note 5, and Samsung S6 Edge at 86. Apple’s current flagship the iPhone 6S sits at 84 with four other cameras.
    07-27-2017 05:02 PM
  17. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Impressive but the screen is too small for me. Like the concept of
    the mods but the only thing I'm interested in is the projector. Battery is a no go. Anemic.

    Love what they're doing just wish I could be more enthusiastic about the actual product. Want as many viable competitors e/Samsung as possible.
    The projector is not that great.
    07-29-2017 05:26 PM

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