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  1. dpham00's Avatar
    Daniel put together a nice hands on review for those interested.

    https://m.androidcentral.com/moto-z2-force
    07-25-2017 04:27 PM
  2. benjamminh's Avatar
    For early first impressions that seems fair to me.
    07-25-2017 04:51 PM
  3. dpham00's Avatar
    Another from mr mobile

    https://m.androidcentral.com/mrmobil...-moto-z2-force
    07-25-2017 06:56 PM
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    I don't frequent CNET. They mix malware with their downloads for a few extra bucks.
    07-26-2017 05:40 PM
  11. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    I think Motorola gave up on trying to compete. They make great hardware, but their designs are trash and the moto mod concept is really holding them back. Motorola phones could be so much more appealing if they tried to compete.
    07-27-2017 02:17 AM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    I think Motorola gave up on trying to compete. They make great hardware, but their designs are trash and the moto mod concept is really holding them back. Motorola phones could be so much more appealing if they tried to compete.
    The pitched the Z2 Force to all four (five if you count US Cellular) US carriers and they all accepted. This is how you sell to US consumers in 2017. Sounds to me like they're trying to compete versus carrier exclusives, unlocked-only, limited retail.

    This is the battle for third place in the US.
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    07-27-2017 01:27 PM
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    sounding like he hates life...
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    07-27-2017 01:32 PM
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  17. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    The pitched the Z2 Force to all four (five if you count US Cellular) US carriers and they all accepted. This is how you sell to US consumers in 2017. Sounds to me like they're trying to compete versus carrier exclusives, unlocked-only, limited retail.

    This is the battle for third place in the US.
    I don't see releasing a mediocre phone on all carriers as competing. I don't understand why Motorola is so good at budget and midrange phones and so bad at flagships.
    07-27-2017 03:58 PM
  18. Mike-Mike's Avatar
    this phone is not mediocre, that is absurd. Battery is smaller than desired, but it is far from mediocre
    07-27-2017 04:54 PM
  19. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    this phone is not mediocre, that is absurd. Battery is smaller than desired, but it is far from mediocre
    It's definitely mediocre. Poor design, small battery, non-user-replaceable screen that is easy to put deep scratches into, a middle-of-the-road AMOLED display, no headset jack, an average camera, gimmicky fingerprint sensor gesture controls instead of capacitive buttons, no wireless charging, and no water resistance rating. I would rather buy a OnePlus 5 or even the Moto Z2 Play over the Motorola Z2 Force.
    07-27-2017 05:11 PM
  20. benjamminh's Avatar
    It's definitely mediocre. Poor design, small battery, non-user-replaceable screen that is easy to put deep scratches into, a middle-of-the-road AMOLED display, no headset jack, an average camera, gimmicky fingerprint sensor gesture controls instead of capacitive buttons, no wireless charging, and no water resistance rating. I would rather buy a OnePlus 5 or even the Moto Z2 Play over the Motorola Z2 Force.
    I obviously haven't used the Z2 Force, but I'm afraid there's a lot of truth there. I can only hope the Z3 is better or I'm likely going Pixel as I don't care for Samsung or LG and the other companies require a fair number of compromises.
    07-27-2017 05:38 PM
  21. Mike Dee's Avatar
    this phone is not mediocre, that is absurd. Battery is smaller than desired, but it is far from mediocre
    I don't think its mediocre but if I were in the market for this phone last years model is a better deal.
    07-29-2017 05:25 PM
  22. bhatech's Avatar
    Agree it's not mediocre, it's got good specs in terms of SOC and storage, like the design as well. But you are looking at close to $900 plus dollars after tax, if you want a phone with decent battery capacity since you have to get the battery mod. I tend to purchase pretty much every flashing on impulse ( have U11, S8 and XZ premium). I didn't have any impulse feeling to spend $900 on this phone. Waiting for Note 8, iPhone and Pixel now, passing Motorola this time around since don't feel like supporting their braindead decisions.
    07-29-2017 08:06 PM
  23. stanleywinthrop's Avatar
    I don't see releasing a mediocre phone on all carriers as competing. I don't understand why Motorola is so good at budget and midrange phones and so bad at flagships.
    Mike, I don't think you understand what Ry is saying here. The vast majority of the US public buys its phones at carrier stores. If you want to accuse Motorola of not competing it was in 2015 when not a single carrier carried Motorola's flagship. The simple fact is that you have to be in the stores if you want to sell in the US.

    We get that specs are the overriding factor you consider when buying a phone, and that's fine for you. But the vast majority of the people who go into carrier stores will never know nor care that this phone has a smaller battery than its predecessor. All they will care about is whether the phone will last all day, and most reviews have confirmed that it will.
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    08-06-2017 09:48 AM
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