11-29-2017 01:32 AM
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  1. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Yes, a phone with headphones can trick your brain into thinking it is hearing good music. Listening to music is about the movement of air, specifically sound waves that move the eardrum and resonate with the body. You aren't moving a lot of air with headphones. Couple that handicap with a compressed .mp3 music file that people typically listen to on their phones and you've got compromised sound quality.
    I don't usually carry my home sound system around at work.
    ecr80 and shadowsjc like this.
    08-01-2017 02:02 PM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I am honestly kind of torn. I can understand why they may want to shift to USB C, but at the same time, there hasn't been enough time nor inclination by the general consumer base to warrant such a change.
    08-01-2017 02:45 PM
  3. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I am honestly kind of torn. I can understand why they may want to shift to USB C, but at the same time, there hasn't been enough time nor inclination by the general consumer base to warrant such a change.
    Exactly....and even if they wanted to make it thinner the could have gone with a subminiature adapter which would keep the audio separate from the USB.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-01-2017 06:27 PM
  4. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Exactly....and even if they wanted to make it thinner the could have gone with a subminiature adapter which would keep the audio separate from the USB.
    Or even refreshed the jack to a flat panel.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-01-2017 06:38 PM
  5. LuxuryTouringZone's Avatar
    Deal breaker! Loss of a valuable feature is not supposed to be considered good at all.
    08-01-2017 07:51 PM
  6. Morty2264's Avatar
    When I'd first heard of this trend - with Apple, and then HTC - it just seemed strange to me. Why get rid of something so useful? But now, it doesn't bother me. As long as I'd get an adapter, I'd be set. Plus, I never listen to music/watch videos while charging my phone; so this type of thing would not be an inconvenience for me. But I do see how it could be one for others. But for me personally, I am A-OK with it.
    08-01-2017 09:54 PM
  7. emellow's Avatar
    Not a deal breaker at all. I use bluetooth for almost everything, except my headphones at the gym.
    08-01-2017 10:18 PM
  8. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I don't usually carry my home sound system around at work.
    Yes, well I did qualify my statement by saying, "if you're going to seriously listen to music it's got to be a home system." Do you spend significant time at work listening to music?
    08-01-2017 11:31 PM
  9. gregmcph's Avatar
    My phone is my iPod.
    I could manage, I suppose, but why manage? Why use a dongle?

    It matters to me.
    08-02-2017 01:15 AM
  10. vtpmt81's Avatar
    It isn't a deal breaker but there was no reason for Moto to remove the headphone jack - especially when it is included in the Z2 Play.
    08-02-2017 04:46 PM
  11. rhapdog's Avatar
    My issue would be that when I generally have time to listen to music, I'm also needing to charge my phone.

    I guess there would need to be a dongle that would allow me to do that.
    08-02-2017 06:04 PM
  12. brundmc's Avatar
    Here's a story about learning to accept this new world without headphone jacks. My work gave me an iPhone 7 when they came out. The no headphone thing bothered me and it also came with tracking software so I needed my own personal phone. So I bought a moto G4. It was my media player and personal phone, great phone. Then on Swappa I saw a Moto Z cheap and I had been wanting to play with Google daydream. So I bought it. In the days waiting for it to arrive I read some reviews. I know, I should have read them first, but I was blinded of dreams of VR and more power. I realized it had no headphone jack. I was a little upset. I hadn't been paying attention to the android world very well and I didn't think android had this headphone killing thing going on. But it hasn't been that bad. I did buy a 2 pack of headphone to usb c adapters and 2 of these bluetooth to 3.5 mm adapters. So it's a problem that can be solved with money and preparedness. But I know one day I'll be burned. I'll be on an airplane and I won't have the usb c adapter and the bluetooth adapter will be dead. But I'll just solve it by playing the same thing on the iphone and the moto at the same time and holding them to opposite ears.
    benjamminh likes this.
    08-02-2017 08:26 PM
  13. Doug Moffat's Avatar
    Yes, well I did qualify my statement by saying, "if you're going to seriously listen to music it's got to be a home system." Do you spend significant time at work listening to music?
    A signicant time working out. Bluetooth headphones at work for calls.
    08-02-2017 09:37 PM
  14. Mitalis's Avatar
    This is a potential deal breaker for me. Having used the pixel for the better half a year, I've had issues with Bluetooth. Google has been notorious for having crap Bluetooth. A perfect example would be how the quality is with Google Play Music. It will consistently pop and click when listening to music. People have recommended turning off wifi to reduce interference. This is still an issue to this day despite having claimed they fixed it.

    In addition while this may not be an issue to some my car Ford Sync system is notorious for crapping out and the Bluetooth feature constantly drops. The only fallback I've had in this scenario is using the headphone jack, and I thank God it's there. Some people have older cars which do not have Bluetooth, what about there people? They shouldn't have to buy all these extra accessories as a workaround for a lack of a headphone jack.

    There are other phones out there which have achieved being waterproof with the headphone jack so it's certainly doable. If taking it out due to space being a premium, then perhaps they should consider making the phone a big thicker. Phones these days are too damn slim IMO and I feel like the battery capacity is suffering as a result of these designs. Make them thicker for the headphone jack and make bigger batteries!

    </end rant>
    08-04-2017 11:33 AM
  15. juststart's Avatar
    It's a bummer they didn't include USB-C headphones. Would have been nice.
    08-06-2017 09:57 PM
  16. Dirtymike14's Avatar
    Definite deal breaker for me, I'm not a big fan of Bluetooth headphones
    08-06-2017 10:06 PM
  17. somnambulator's Avatar
    comes with adapter. also can't remember the last time I used my headphone jack. I stream to multiple Bluetooth devices (3 cars plus 2 speakers) and don't even know where my earbuds are.
    08-13-2017 10:11 PM
  18. DSnoop's Avatar
    There's no 3.5mm headphone jack like the z force droid, will this be a deal breaker for you? Personally, I haven't used 3.5mm headphones in years so it doesn't bother me, but i can see it as a downer for those that do. There is an usb c to headphone jack in the box but that seems very easy to lose, IMO.
    I absolutely hate registering and creating new accounts, let alone having to give feedback to companies that should already be doing their own research, so for me to even do this shows how invested I am in this topic.

    Deal breaker to the point that I would rather get a basic flip phone and move to an audio device. Things I care about in a phone by rank:

    -Listening to music (headphones)
    -Storage
    -Ease of use on the interface
    -Access to emails and maps/traffic

    Regarding this topic, yes I know how Bluetooth works and I have a nice JBL box in my home for portable use around the house as needed; patio, kitchen while cooking, maybe in the bedroom while reading. So I do use that functionality. Yes the sound quality is less and I notice that. This is why I often use the headphone jack in the car rather than the Bluetooth for music.

    When I use the headphone jack by rank:

    -At work (up to 10 hours per day)
    -Car trips (daily)
    -Snowboarding (up to 6 hours per day when snowboarding plus plug in time in the car for the commute to and from the slopes)
    -Gym (one hour per day)
    -Travel ( I travel for work and pleasure, always use headphone jack while in the airport and on the plane)

    I'm not going to add additional time (and cost) to charge an under performing headset continuously during these times. My life and time are too valuable to waste more time charging devices I never asked for in the first place.

    I don't watch Star Wars or porn on my phone so not sure why we need 4k definition on phones. Really people, on phones? So give me a basic display in a small platform and I'll keep the headphone jack. Thanks.
    11-28-2017 10:18 AM
  19. saclauss's Avatar
    Dealbreaker for sure. I don't need something else to charge every day.
    Also, bluetooth headphones have too many potential points of failure.
    11-29-2017 01:32 AM
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