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  1. benjamminh's Avatar
    I took the plunge. But I used the device payment plan but put a large amount down. They are not monthly credits so once I pay it off I get my upgrade back.

    The camera is significantly better than the Z3, especially with the right Gcam port versus that port for the Z3.

    None of the photos used a flash.

    The first photo is the Z4 with the Gcam port and night sight. . Zoom in to the face of the dog on each photo and see the difference The second is the Z4 with night vision on the Moto camera app.
    The third is the Z3 Moto app. The fourth is the Z3 Gcam port with night sight. I haven't tried outdoor photos yet.
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    06-17-2019 07:44 PM
  2. Bwhick's Avatar
    What gcam port did you use?
    06-18-2019 12:36 AM
  3. benjamminh's Avatar
    https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/a...dev-backrider/

    The first one on this list. I tried a lot of different ones. The good news is that the Z4 and the Redmi Note 7 Pro share the same processor and main camera sensor.

    As always install at your own risk but I have had no issues.
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    06-18-2019 07:10 AM
  4. Bwhick's Avatar
    Thank you very much. I have been looking for one of these.
    06-18-2019 09:08 AM
  5. benjamminh's Avatar
    I will say directly compared that the Z3 is a little faster opening most apps and I'm sure better at graphics intensive games. The extra screen real estate isn't that significant. I feel fairly certain battery life will be better with the Z4 as reviews have indicated. Moto voice is gone which is unfortunate but it was clear Moto was phasing it out.

    If people have any questions I'm happy to respond. I've only had the Z4 for one day and have taken no photos outside.
    06-18-2019 10:34 AM
  6. Scott337's Avatar
    I will say directly compared that the Z3 is a little faster opening most apps and I'm sure better at graphics intensive games. The extra screen real estate isn't that significant. I feel fairly certain battery life will be better with the Z4 as reviews have indicated. Moto voice is gone which is unfortunate but it was clear Moto was phasing it out.

    If people have any questions I'm happy to respond. I've only had the Z4 for one day and have taken no photos outside.
    I understand why they removed Moto Voice as a whole, but man I wish they would have left Talk To Me (including Driving Mode) as a separate Moto App feature.
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    06-18-2019 10:40 AM
  7. benjamminh's Avatar
    I know. It's a huge loss. Also the in display fingerprint scanner has been complete trash for me so I'm not using it all. Maybe an update can help with that but I'm not holding my breath.
    06-18-2019 10:54 AM
  8. Scott337's Avatar
    There is a lengthy discussion about the FPS on the Moto Forum also. I setup three fingerprints last Thursday and fortunately have had no issues, no failed reads.
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    06-18-2019 11:05 AM
  9. benjamminh's Avatar
    There is a lengthy discussion about the FPS on the Moto Forum also. I setup three fingerprints last Thursday and fortunately have had no issues, no failed reads.
    Yeah I read it. I may try again at some point.
    06-18-2019 11:51 AM
  10. benjamminh's Avatar
    A weird bug I've noticed. After restarting the phone the screen color profile is much more saturated even though the setting itself has not changed. After toggling the setting it goes back to before.
    06-21-2019 07:01 AM
  11. Scott337's Avatar
    I have only restarted once so far, will have to keep an eye for that. I like the default Saturated display setting but set it back to Normal to help save a little battery throughout the day. I'll try to pay attention to the display after the next reboot.
    06-21-2019 08:17 AM
  12. benjamminh's Avatar
    I keep it at natural so it was a significant change.
    06-21-2019 09:00 AM
  13. benjamminh's Avatar
    And still no forum for the Z4.
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    06-21-2019 10:39 AM
  14. experiment 626's Avatar
    And still no forum for the Z4.
    Yes, I keep looking for it too. I'm trying to get a consensus about this phone, especially it's camera quality.
    06-24-2019 10:54 PM
  15. benjamminh's Avatar
    With the Google camera port I think it's very solid.
    06-25-2019 08:04 AM
  16. benjamminh's Avatar
    For those who might be interested there are some Z3/Z4 compassion shots in this album. I also tested Google camera ports for both. Of course I was in a large meeting and fell asleep holding my phone and dropped it and cracked the screen. No case, just a tempered glass screen protector but it hit on the edge. I really wish they had gotten a bumper out to buy. It's the first cell phone screen I think I've cracked but it's usable.

    Here's the link: https://photos.app.goo.gl/K87jcYTiMywFGSDP7
    06-26-2019 06:41 PM
  17. benjamminh's Avatar
    One tip I came across in the gsmarena review is if you want more accurate whites to turn on the night light and then move the slider a third of the way to the right. Of course the most accurate color setting is natural but some prefer the saturated colors.
    06-27-2019 02:44 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    Would you choose Asus ZenFone or Moto Z4? Lol.
    ????
    07-01-2019 03:20 PM
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