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02-05-2014 08:39 AM
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  1. beeare's Avatar
    The last 2 days I've noticed my battery drain a little worse than usual.

    When I check the battery stats, my Google search is listed despite not using it much.

    Yesterday, under "keep awake" under battery stats, it was listed as kept awake for 4 hours, and my phone was only off the charger for 4 hours, so it was basically kept awake the entire time.

    I've never noticed this before, but is this normal, or is anybody else noticing this?

    Also, my corporate email seems to be kept awake longer than I've actually used it so just curious if this is all normal.

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    02-02-2014 10:44 AM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Have you cleared cache for Search?
    02-02-2014 10:55 AM
  3. beeare's Avatar
    Yes

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    02-02-2014 12:32 PM
  4. doogald's Avatar
    Do you ever use Google Now? I wonder if it is location tracking? You can turn that off if you don't use it. Settings / location. Go to the bottom, "Google Location Reporting". Turn off "Location Reporting" and "Location History" (or at least the history) for each Google acct on the phone. (Unless, of course, you use the Google Now cards.)
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    02-02-2014 01:08 PM
  5. beeare's Avatar
    Do you ever use Google Now? I wonder if it is location tracking? You can turn that off if you don't use it. Settings / location. Go to the bottom, "Google Location Reporting". Turn off "Location Reporting" and "Location History" (or at least the history) for each Google acct on the phone. (Unless, of course, you use the Google Now cards.)
    Sorry, should have clarified. I usually keep my location tracking off, and it's been off this whole time. Since this morning, I cleared cache for all apps and rebooted my phone. It seems to have stopped. I use Google Search/Now every once in a while, maybe a couple times a day, but I've never noticed it kept awake like this before. Maybe it was something with another app that was somehow keeping it from sleeping. Who knows?

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    02-02-2014 03:07 PM
  6. mvp4him3's Avatar
    Sorry, should have clarified. I usually keep my location tracking off, and it's been off this whole time. Since this morning, I cleared cache for all apps and rebooted my phone. It seems to have stopped. I use Google Search/Now every once in a while, maybe a couple times a day, but I've never noticed it kept awake like this before. Maybe it was something with another app that was somehow keeping it from sleeping. Who knows?

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    Is there any chance that you can upload a screenshot of the battery meter?

    Posted via my DROID MAXX
    02-02-2014 06:13 PM
  7. beeare's Avatar
    Is there any chance that you can upload a screenshot of the battery meter?

    Posted via my DROID MAXX
    Unfortunately I tried to eliminate the problem right away by rebooting and clearing the cache, and did not take a screen shot. Since then, it hasn't seemed to be a problem, and as a result, it no longer shows up in the battery stats. If it happens again, I'll certainly take a screen shot. It basically just showed up as one of the apps that was high on battery drain. Then when I pressed the app for app info, it showed that it was kept awake for the entire 4 plus hours that my phone had been off the charger. It was while I was sleeping, so my phone was completely idol, yet it went down 7% in those 4 hours (all on 4G). Generally when I pull my phone off the charger in the middle of the night and let it sit until I wake up, it loses 1% maximum, often nothing at all. In this case my battery was down to 93%, and at that point, I remembered that I also saw Google search high on battery stats the day before, despite not using it much. Unfortunately I didn't check to see if it was kept awake that day the whole day either, but my phone did die abnormally fast the day before, so this could definitely have been the issue.

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    02-02-2014 11:29 PM
  8. beeare's Avatar
    I also noticed this, this morning. My WIFI isn't even on but it seems to be using a lot of battery and says awake for the whole time my phones been unplugged.

    Is this normal?

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    02-03-2014 07:47 AM
  9. beeare's Avatar
    Is it normal for wifi to stay running even if wifi isn't on?

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    02-03-2014 09:19 AM
  10. tyro-n-tequila's Avatar
    Is it normal for wifi to stay running even if wifi isn't on?

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    Stupid question, is your wifi actually turned off or is it just not connected to a wifi source? If it is actually still on but not connected it will be searching for a wifi signal continuously.

    T
    02-03-2014 09:44 AM
  11. JimBen73's Avatar
    Stupid question, is your wifi actually turned off or is it just not connected to a wifi source? If it is actually still on but not connected it will be searching for a wifi signal continuously.

    T
    I leave Wi-Fi on and it doesn't drain my battery

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    02-03-2014 10:49 AM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    I also noticed this, this morning. My WIFI isn't even on but it seems to be using a lot of battery and says awake for the whole time my phones been unplugged.

    Is this normal?
    You used only 6% in 4.5 hours - that's pretty low. Remember that those battery stats always add up to 100%, so something has to take up the battery.

    Those charts you are showing do not show that the phone is awake - just that the WiFi radio was on since you last unplugged. So, yes, that's normal. To get awake, you tap the battery graph, where you can see when the phone was awake - there is a special section for that on that chart.
    02-03-2014 11:20 AM
  13. beeare's Avatar
    You used only 6% in 4.5 hours - that's pretty low. Remember that those battery stats always add up to 100%, so something has to take up the battery.

    Those charts you are showing do not show that the phone is awake - just that the WiFi radio was on since you last unplugged. So, yes, that's normal. To get awake, you tap the battery graph, where you can see when the phone was awake - there is a special section for that on that chart.
    I've had this phone for 6 months and this is atypical for me. If you see from the screen shot, it says wifi running for the whole time my phone was off the charger, but I didn't have wifi on at all. It was running on 4g the whole time. I turned on airplane mode and turned it back off to see if it would stop it from running and then I checked the battery stats again, and it was not running for a whole hour. Then I turned wifi for a sec and turned it back off to see if it would run for a sec and then stop. For some reason, even though I turned it off, it's now been running for the whole hour plus since I turned it on for a second.
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    02-03-2014 11:38 AM
  14. beeare's Avatar
    Again, one only has wifi on literally a minute or so

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    02-03-2014 11:45 AM
  15. doogald's Avatar
    I've had this phone for 6 months and this is atypical for me. If you see from the screen shot, it says wifi running for the whole time my phone was off the charger, but I didn't have wifi on at all. It was running on 4g the whole time.
    When you said that you didn't have WiFi on at all, do you mean it wasn't connected to an access point or the radio was switched off in settings / WiFi? If the radio is on, it's on. That WiFi bar in the graph does not show active connections to an access point, but the radio actually turned on. That's the way my graph *always* looks, and always has since I had the phone. (Also notice the awake graph from your display - the WiFi radio is not keeping the phone awake.)

    Second, settings / WiFi. Tap the menu control on the bottom right and choose "Advanced". From that display, do you have "Scanning always available" turned on? That allows Android to use your WiFi radio for location triangulation of known WiFi access points.

    See my attached screenshot from October, when the phone had 4.2.2. The WiFi bar is on for the whole time, though I was not connected to WiFi that whole time.

    Google search battery drain-2013-10-13-00.12.45-1.png
    02-03-2014 01:15 PM
  16. SeigaGen's Avatar
    The last 2 days I've noticed my battery drain a little worse than usual.

    When I check the battery stats, my Google search is listed despite not using it much.

    Yesterday, under "keep awake" under battery stats, it was listed as kept awake for 4 hours, and my phone was only off the charger for 4 hours, so it was basically kept awake the entire time.

    I've never noticed this before, but is this normal, or is anybody else noticing this?

    Also, my corporate email seems to be kept awake longer than I've actually used it so just curious if this is all normal.

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    9 times out of 10 if you maintain a relatively clean cache on your phone and you still experience battery drain, it may be due to the Cell signal. The phone amps out more power when there is a lower signal. Therefore, the battery drains a lot quicker.
    02-03-2014 02:00 PM
  17. beeare's Avatar
    9 times out of 10 if you maintain a relatively clean cache on your phone and you still experience battery drain, it may be due to the Cell signal. The phone amps out more power when there is a lower signal. Therefore, the battery drains a lot quicker.
    Yes, understood.

    Should my wifi show as running even if I'm not on wifi? That just seems weird, and I don't think that my phone has been doing that until yesterday.

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    02-03-2014 03:54 PM
  18. SeigaGen's Avatar
    Yes. As long as the radio is enabled, it is on. You'd have to physically turn off WiFi in the settings. WiFi, when on, is continuously pinging your available networks until it connects. This feature is very low powered by the way. It shouldn't drain your battery quickly.

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    02-03-2014 04:01 PM
  19. beeare's Avatar
    Yes. As long as the radio is enabled, it is on. You'd have to physically turn off WiFi in the settings. WiFi, when on, is continuously pinging your available networks until it connects. This feature is very low powered by the way. It shouldn't drain your battery quickly.

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    That's my point. My WIFI was physically turned off in all those screen shots. That's why I don't understand why it's listed as running.

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    02-03-2014 06:17 PM
  20. tyro-n-tequila's Avatar
    I always have my wifi on so I cant say if that is normal or not. But I turned mine off and will leave it off over night and tomorrow I'll post back my result for comparison.

    T
    02-03-2014 07:40 PM
  21. doogald's Avatar
    That's my point. My WIFI was physically turned off in all those screen shots.
    Did you check the advanced settings of WiFi? If so, was "Scanning always available" turned on? See my post above, #15. I think if you have that turned on, the WiFi radio will be kept available for location services, even if you have the WiFi radio switched off. And, not to sound like a broken record, but if you have *not* switched the radio off in settings / WiFi, then it will also be listed as on, even if you are not connected to an access point.
    02-03-2014 07:56 PM
  22. beeare's Avatar
    Did you check the advanced settings of WiFi? If so, was "Scanning always available" turned on? See my post above, #15. I think if you have that turned on, the WiFi radio will be kept available for location services, even if you have the WiFi radio switched off. And, not to sound like a broken record, but if you have *not* switched the radio off in settings / WiFi, then it will also be listed as on, even if you are not connected to an access point.
    Just confirming, this means my wifi radio is off right?

    Also, I've had location services turned off the entire time.

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    02-03-2014 11:16 PM
  23. beeare's Avatar
    I'm hoping for the AT&T Radio Bands AWS carriers are all but usless to me here in Canada... I'll wait till I see the spec sheet to see if it's worth replacing my beloved Nexus 1...
    This is how I have my wifi settings configured.

    This morning, when I first noticed the problem, I changed the "wifi always on during sleep", to never. Prior to that, it was on always.



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    02-03-2014 11:22 PM
  24. beeare's Avatar
    As you can see from this screen shot, at a certain point, the wifi stopped running, which I think is normal when the wifi is turned off in the settings.

    I want to clarify that when the graph says it was running toward the latter half of the day, my wifi was on and actually running, because that is when I got home, however at all points before that last period my wifi was literally turned off the entire time, except for about 1 minute when I was testing something out.

    I don't understand why it was stuck running in the beginning of the day, but it seems to have stopped for now.

    Hopefully somebody can shed some light. I'll send an update in the morning, but I'm starting to believe there was something weird going on this morning despite clearing the cache and rebooting.

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    02-03-2014 11:31 PM
  25. tyro-n-tequila's Avatar
    I would say that something is odd with your wifi connection. Here are my screen shots from this morning, I turned off my wifi about 12 hours ago.


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    02-04-2014 07:44 AM
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