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  1. Cory Streater's Avatar
    You may have noticed a new FAQ specifically related to Droid rooting. I would appreciate it if everyone would help out with both proofreading and adding content. If you have any information to contribute, please post it here, and I will incorporate it into the FAQ. For formatting reasons, I have left the actual FAQ closed and will add to it as I receive feedback from you guys.

    As a thank you, I will increase your reputation by pressing the "add to reputation button" each time I receive accurate, helpful, and useful feedback.

    This FAQ should also help lower the frustration of some of our more experienced guys who see the same questions being asked over and over again.

    Also, if you would like to PM me any content, please feel free to do so.

    Thanks,

    Cory
    02-19-2010 09:02 AM
  2. thebizz's Avatar
    Quick question. its been a while since I rooted, does the update.zip include busybox or the new recovery.img if not then the easiest way for that is Droid root helper or Droid rootpro.
    02-19-2010 09:29 AM
  3. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Quick question. its been a while since I rooted, does the update.zip include busybox or the new recovery.img if not then the easiest way for that is Droid root helper or Droid rootpro.
    My procedure does not, no. Please point me to the correct place and I will update the FAQ with it. Thanks.
    02-19-2010 09:32 AM
  4. thebizz's Avatar
    THIS IS TO INSTALL BUSYBOX
    Code:
    adb push busybox /data/local/busybox
    adb shell
    su
    cd /data/local
    chmod 755 busybox
    ./busybox
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    mkdir /system/xbin
    /data/local/busybox cp /data/local/busybox /system/xbin
    /data/local/busybox cp /data/local/busybox /system/bin
    cd /system/xbin
    busybox --install .
    mount -o ro,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    sync
    reboot

    THIS IS TO FLASH A RECOVERY IMAGE
    su
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    cat /sdcard/flash_image > /system/bin/flash_image
    chmod 755 /system/bin/flash_image
    sync
    mount -o remount,r -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    /system/bin/flash_image recovery /sdcard/
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    mv /system/recovery-from-boot.p /system/recovery-from-boot.old
    sync
    mount -o remount,r -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

    sholes is down at the moment it would be best to past a recovery image here as a zip atleast 99.2b.
    or you can try droid root pro from the market of a buck or two, trying to find a copy of busybox or a download link
    02-19-2010 09:48 AM
  5. Cory Streater's Avatar
    THIS IS TO INSTALL BUSYBOX
    Code:
    adb push busybox /data/local/busybox
    adb shell
    su
    cd /data/local
    chmod 755 busybox
    ./busybox
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    mkdir /system/xbin
    /data/local/busybox cp /data/local/busybox /system/xbin
    /data/local/busybox cp /data/local/busybox /system/bin
    cd /system/xbin
    busybox --install .
    mount -o ro,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    sync
    reboot

    THIS IS TO FLASH A RECOVERY IMAGE
    su
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    cat /sdcard/flash_image > /system/bin/flash_image
    chmod 755 /system/bin/flash_image
    sync
    mount -o remount,r -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    /system/bin/flash_image recovery /sdcard/
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    mv /system/recovery-from-boot.p /system/recovery-from-boot.old
    sync
    mount -o remount,r -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system

    sholes is down at the moment it would be best to past a recovery image here as a zip atleast 99.2b.
    or you can try droid root pro from the market of a buck or two, trying to find a copy of busybox or a download link
    Thanks. I will incorporate this into the FAQ.
    02-19-2010 10:10 AM
  6. prometheus's Avatar
    perhaps we should hold off on giving step-by-step help related to sholes until that mess is straightened out.
    02-19-2010 10:22 AM
  7. Flyguide83's Avatar
    The easiest way to root your droid is via sholes updater. It is available on the market place as "donate" its free on the developers website. Just download and follow instructions. Its important that you don't freek out about the disclaimers at each step.. just follow the directions.. very easy and takes about 30 min including the download..fyi that took about 20 min alone
    02-19-2010 10:25 AM
  8. prometheus's Avatar
    The easiest way to root your droid is via sholes updater. It is available on the market place as "donate" its free on the developers website. Just download and follow instructions. Its important that you don't freek out about the disclaimers at each step.. just follow the directions.. very easy and takes about 30 min including the download..fyi that took about 20 min alone
    I agree, sholes is a very easy way to go. But, let's hold off on directing people there until they're back up (sholes was removed from market yesterday and website is down)
    02-19-2010 10:29 AM
  9. Flyguide83's Avatar
    Lol.. probably my fault.. I found a flaw that will reboot your phone everytime you try to do it..lol emailed the dev and he couldn't finger it out.. oh well I still like it!
    02-19-2010 10:32 AM
  10. thebizz's Avatar
    How do I back up my device before rooting?

    There are a few apps that can assist you in this. Ckeck out a few that are available for free in market:

    Astro
    Titanium

    These apps store a back up of your settings on your phone's SD card. Once that file is created you can copy and paste it to your computer - in case somewhere in the root process you corrupt your SD card.
    Good idea but astro only backs up your apps haven't tried titanium
    02-19-2010 10:40 AM
  11. thebizz's Avatar
    And I would say once you root load the custom recovery image and make a nandrioid backup. do if something does go wrong you have a your pristine backup. with only root access
    02-19-2010 10:43 AM
  12. prometheus's Avatar
    Good idea but astro only backs up your apps haven't tried titanium
    Yes, you're right... Astro only backs up apps, n ot settings -- I'll go back and edit my post -- good catch.
    02-19-2010 10:45 AM
  13. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Great job everyone, but prometheus in particular... you are knocking it out of the park! THANKS!!!
    02-19-2010 11:16 AM
  14. thebizz's Avatar
    Except if you don't have the icon but the Rom says it has superuser permissions. it probably will not work with most apps requiring Su permissions
    02-19-2010 11:17 AM
  15. Flyguide83's Avatar
    still wish sholes was available... it does everything for you.. ie backup and it allows you to download custom roms... gets rod of bloat ware as you set it up... its great for those who arte afraid to do the multiple steps involved with rooting or maybe most importantly, you can do it ask via your phone.. do not have to mount to pc or download to pc.. the only time I even turned my laptop on was for the sugar sync...
    02-19-2010 11:25 AM
  16. Flyguide83's Avatar
    besides all of that.. in the sholes updater, there is a button for"back to stock"..
    02-19-2010 11:30 AM
  17. thebizz's Avatar
    How to set up adb. Windows only
    1 go and download the Android sdk for windows try and place it some were like this (c: /users/usename/android/sdk
    2 once downloaded go into the folder and click the setup icon and let it do what it has to
    Almost forgot make sure you download the frivers for the phone
    3 while that's downloading go to my computer, select properties, next select advanced settings, enviromental variables, click new then enter your path to the tools folder in the android sdk
    For example c:/users/username/androidsdk/tools
    4 now back out of the window you were in
    5 now make sure your phone has debugging on settings, applications, develoment, and select debugging
    6 connect your phone to your computer
    7 open command promt from your computer, and type cd then the path to the tools folder in your sdk
    8 if everything was done correct you should see the directory, now type adb shell, and it should open the bridge

    Sorry if I missed a step here and their don't have my comp infront of me so wrote this off of memory feel free to edit or correct this
    02-19-2010 01:21 PM
  18. Cory Streater's Avatar
    FYI - I am moving posts out of this thread and into the FAQ thread, so if you're thinking about posting a new one (or thought yours get deleted), you might want to check there first. Thanks again everyone!
    02-19-2010 01:56 PM
  19. Cory Streater's Avatar
    I would suggest that you get the following programs once rooted.
    Droid root pro
    Root explorer
    Set cpu
    Sugar sync
    Dro cap2
    Titanium backup
    I love Sugar Sync, but I'm curious why you added it as a preferred app once you're rooted?
    02-19-2010 02:01 PM
  20. prometheus's Avatar
    hey, could someone write up a step-by-step for moving apps to SD card once rooted?

    I know you can once you root. I haven't tried to yet, as I have plenty of memory. But, it would be pretty cool to actually store them there and free up all of RAM for day-to-day operations.
    02-19-2010 02:16 PM
  21. prometheus's Avatar
    You know what else would be nice to have? A very basic definition of what overclocking is.

    I'm overclocked and to be honest... I'm not pefectly clear on what it actually does. I think it allows the processor and the electical frequency of the battery to be faster and higher than stock settings - and that speeds of the screen animations and general snappiness of the device. It also creates the opportunity for prematurely aging the CPU and possibly even overheating the battery and effectively frying the device.

    So, without the answer... here's some good FAQs:

    -- What is overclocking?
    -- How do I overclock and why should I / shouldn't I overclock?
    -- What are the pros and cons of overclocking?


    I know this was intended as a FAQ for rooting and not overclocking... But, I think ovderclocking is so closely linked with rooting it would be good in the FAQs to have a concise and clear definition of what it actually is. Or at least a statement regarding: "if you want to overclock, you need to root first... and this is how you ovreclock... and this is what you should know about overclocking..." -- just my $0.02.
    02-19-2010 02:29 PM
  22. Cory Streater's Avatar
    You know what else would be nice to have? A very basic definition of what overclocking is.

    I'm overclocked and to be honest... I'm not pefectly clear on what it actually does. I think it allows the processor and the electical frequency of the battery to be faster and higher than stock settings - and that speeds of the screen animations and general snappiness of the device. It also creates the opportunity for prematurely aging the CPU and possibly even overheating the battery and effectively frying the device.

    So, without the answer... here's some good FAQs:

    -- What is overclocking?
    -- How do I overclock and why should I / shouldn't I overclock?
    -- What are the pros and cons of overclocking?


    I know this was intended as a FAQ for rooting and not overclocking... But, I think ovderclocking is so closely linked with rooting it would be good in the FAQs to have a concise and clear definition of what it actually is. Or at least a statement regarding: "if you want to overclock, you need to root first... and this is how you ovreclock... and this is what you should know about overclocking..." -- just my $0.02.
    Yes this would be great and would also be stickied.
    02-19-2010 02:46 PM
  23. Cory Streater's Avatar
    How often should I make a nandrioid backup.

    anytime prior to making a modification ( loading. Theme with metamorph, changing roms, overclocking, or anything like that, you never know what will mess your phone up, so its best to have that backup
    As far as backups go, doesn't this trump any third party app that you might install?
    02-19-2010 03:01 PM
  24. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Okay guys, check out the FAQ and let me know what you think so far. I really appreciate everyones contribution to this.
    02-19-2010 03:27 PM
  25. thebizz's Avatar
    As far as backups go, doesn't this trump any third party app that you might install?
    Yes this backs up everything so if something were to happen you can wipe data and restore
    02-19-2010 03:30 PM
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