1. badkitties's Avatar
    Does anyone else think that it's totally unacceptable in 2015 for the camera not to have OIS?
    (on a phone in the $600 to $700 price range)
    10-28-2015 01:43 AM
  2. russel5150's Avatar
    I can see your point, however with companies right now trying to do things differently than the competition, i can see why they are trying different ways to produce good results.

    Sent with my white Note5 with nonremovable back and no SDcard!
    10-28-2015 03:44 AM
  3. kmf1's Avatar
    If the new Turbo 2 has zero shutter lag, (which is advertised) OIS may not be necessary.
    10-28-2015 06:28 AM
  4. kmf1's Avatar
    According to the specs listed, image stabilization is part of the new Turbo 2 camera.
    [URL][http://www.motorola.com/us/products/droid-turbo-2?utm_source=CJ&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=7293382&PublisherName=Mobile+Nations+%2F+Smartphone+Experts#SpecificationsURL]
    10-28-2015 06:33 AM
  5. doogald's Avatar
    Image stabilization probably means digital image stabilization, which isn't the same as OIS.

    OIS is probably more important for video than for still, though I guess it would be good for low light shots.

    I guess I'd prefer it if they did OIS but I wouldn't call that a deal breaker for me. Putting in OIS probably means they have to compromise somewhere else, either for cost or space or battery size, etc. Let's guess that Moto and Verizon did market research and found that OIS was less critical to buyers than other choices.
    10-28-2015 06:46 AM
  6. badkitties's Avatar
    Image stabilization probably means digital image stabilization, which isn't the same as OIS.

    OIS is probably more important for video than for still, though I guess it would be good for low light shots.

    I guess I'd prefer it if they did OIS but I wouldn't call that a deal breaker for me. Putting in OIS probably means they have to compromise somewhere else, either for cost or space or battery size, etc. Let's guess that Moto and Verizon did market research and found that OIS was less critical to buyers than other choices.
    true... I do admire Moto and Verizon for having MicroSD card slot in the Trubo 2.

    The shatter-proof screen is also cool.... well... there are already several YouTube
    videos showing that it can be scratched and shattered.(!)
    10-28-2015 08:41 AM
  7. SupraLB's Avatar
    I completely agree. This is one feature I was really hoping would be included this year. I often have to take photos a second time on my Turbo 1, especially at night or when trying to take a quick photo. Really disappointed considering other phones include this now.
    10-28-2015 10:15 AM
  8. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Does anyone else think that it's totally unacceptable in 2015 for the camera not to have OIS?
    (on a phone in the $600 to $700 price range)
    Yep, inexcusable. The sad part is, it's probably built into the hardware, but Moto declines to activate it. My Razr Maxx HD had OIS but it had to be accessed via third party camera software.
    10-28-2015 10:33 AM
  9. PowrDroid's Avatar
    According to the specs listed, image stabilization is part of the new Turbo 2 camera.
    [URL][http://www.motorola.com/us/products/droid-turbo-2?utm_source=CJ&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=7293382&PublisherName=Mobile+Nations+%2F+Smartphone+Experts#SpecificationsURL]
    "Video Stabilization" works when shooting video. There is no stabilization for still photos.
    10-28-2015 10:35 AM
  10. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Putting in OIS probably means they have to compromise somewhere else, either for cost or space or battery size, etc. Let's guess that Moto and Verizon did market research and found that OIS was less critical to buyers than other choices.
    It's likely that OIS is part of the camera package, but Moto is not activating it. This was the case with my Razr Maxx HD.
    10-28-2015 10:37 AM
  11. CharlieL3's Avatar
    Does anyone else think that it's totally unacceptable in 2015 for the camera not to have OIS?
    If I were buying a camera, probably. Since I'm buying a phone, not so much.
    maxman1 likes this.
    10-28-2015 01:42 PM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    It's likely that OIS is part of the camera package, but Moto is not activating it. This was the case with my Razr Maxx HD.
    That's be interesting, but I can't believe they have a gyroscope and small lens motors and are not using them. I feel pretty strongly that Sony (or whoever) likely has kits that are generic, non-OIS. But, if you find out that Moto has done that with this phone, that'd be interesting to know.
    10-28-2015 02:45 PM
  13. dmark44's Avatar
    Has anyone ever seen any reviews of smartphone OIS systems that detailed how well they perform? For instance, could they turn it on and off to test it?

    I'm wondering if their performance is comparable to OIS on say, a Canon P&S camera.
    10-28-2015 03:54 PM
  14. badkitties's Avatar
    Has anyone ever seen any reviews of smartphone OIS systems that detailed how well they perform? For instance, could they turn it on and off to test it?

    I'm wondering if their performance is comparable to OIS on say, a Canon P&S camera.
    I have a cheap Canon 8mp P&S camera that was $110 new back in 2008. It still takes better pictures than my current Note 5.

    Smartphones are still limited by the size of sensor, size of lens and lack of zoom.. none of which can ever be solved. However, most people these days don't care much about picture quality.... they only need it to be good enough to upload to instagram and facebook.
    shadowsjc and dmark44 like this.
    10-28-2015 04:29 PM
  15. PowrDroid's Avatar
    That's be interesting, but I can't believe they have a gyroscope and small lens motors and are not using them. I feel pretty strongly that Sony (or whoever) likely has kits that are generic, non-OIS. But, if you find out that Moto has done that with this phone, that'd be interesting to know.
    Using a third party camera app on my Razr Maxx HD there was a function within the app that would allow you to download a text file showing all the hardware and software capabilities of the phone's camera and their on/off status. That's how I found out about the installed OIS that Moto was not using.
    10-28-2015 10:45 PM
  16. udazavlanje's Avatar
    Yep. Especially when they build big and thick phones and leave that component out.
    To make it simple - " no replacement for displacement "

    via AC App on
    VZW Moto X DE/N7
    10-28-2015 11:11 PM
  17. Ry's Avatar
    OIS is not an end all be all spec.
    10-29-2015 01:33 PM
  18. dcallan's Avatar
    The new camera is great for me, and probably adequate for aficionados. I have it in hand. No shutter lag. Not sure OIS is necessary. I'll be interested to take some motion pictures and see how the turn out. This camera is much better than the last Turbo.
    Ry, cbironman24 and dmark44 like this.
    10-29-2015 03:41 PM
  19. Murph5150's Avatar
    I have the OE 64GB Ballistic Nylon Turbo and I have the LG G4. Both phones in their own respect are great devices.

    I have a slight tremor in my hands from cancer in 2002 and I need OIS. The G4, for stills, is my goto phone. I'll use video on the Turbo 1.

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    dmark44 likes this.
    10-29-2015 04:06 PM
  20. PowrDroid's Avatar
    The new camera is great for me, and probably adequate for aficionados. I have it in hand. No shutter lag. Not sure OIS is necessary. I'll be interested to take some motion pictures and see how the turn out. This camera is much better than the last Turbo.
    I was in the store today and looked over the T2. I gave the camera the "hand test", that is, hold your hand about a foot away from the camera, press the screen to take a picture and remove your hand. With my T1 I got mixed results--either the hand was blurry and almost out of the picture frame or there was no hand in the picture. I tried it three times with the T2--two pictures were stock still photos of my hand, the other one was a blurry hand just off center of the frame. So I'd say the T2 camera is faster.
    10-29-2015 04:59 PM
  21. benjamminh's Avatar
    Yes, we had fun with the hand test last year.
    10-29-2015 09:59 PM
  22. etad putta's Avatar
    I have had to pass up several opportunities to take pictures of yeti's, ufo's, and Elvis due to weak cell phone cameras. So no OIS means no thanks.
    10-30-2015 09:04 AM

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