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  1. tech_fan's Avatar
    I am trying to decide between the 2. The Turbo looks real cool and I really like the specs. My concern is the amount of bloatware and how the releases will be scheduled? Would the software releases be as zippy on the Turbo as they are with the Nexus and Moto X or would there be a longer wait time?
    10-14-2014 03:06 PM
  2. heyeaglefn's Avatar
    To me, the biggest difference between the two is the battery. If you are fine with the Moto X battery and screen size, that is probably fine for you. I am not sure the other features are enough to tip the scale.

    Moto X has one of the smaller batteries performance wise of new phones, where the Turbo should have one of the larger batteries.
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    10-14-2014 03:27 PM
  3. radyoactive's Avatar
    I was going to get the X decided on the Moto. If you are on Verizon, you'll get bloat on both phones. Aside from the usual Verizon bloat, it looks like the Turbo may get some "Droid" bloat like the Zap app. I usually disable what isn't useful anyway.

    If Motorola does what they did with last year's X and Droids, updates were very fast. I expect the same again this time around since these phones are just Andoid with Moto Apps on them and not a true skin like Touchwiz.

    I am trying to decide between the 2. The Turbo looks real cool and I really like the specs. My concern is the amount of bloatware and how the releases will be scheduled? Would the software releases be as zippy on the Turbo as they are with the Nexus and Moto X or would there be a longer wait time?
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    10-14-2014 03:37 PM
  4. NoYankees44's Avatar
    The only 2 real advantages the turbo has over the X is battery and ram. Camera *might* be better, but we won't know until it comes out. QHD on a 5.2" screen is completely useless. I had rather have the performance advantages of 1080p.

    The advantages the moto x has is form factor, moto maker, and *probably* faster and longer updates.

    So to sum, if battery and specs are your thing and the form factor does not bother you on the turbo, get the turbo. If you are big on form factor, customization, and super timely updates, the moto x is probably a better choice.

    Sent from my XT1096
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    10-14-2014 05:16 PM
  5. Symthic's Avatar
    Can someone fill me in on what this "bloatware" is, as well as what's endemic to Verizon concerning it?
    10-14-2014 05:49 PM
  6. radyoactive's Avatar
    Can someone fill me in on what this "bloatware" is, as well as what's endemic to Verizon concerning it?
    Bloat is all the added and mostly unnecessary apps preloaded on the phone by the carrier.

    All carriers do it Verizon more than others.
    10-14-2014 06:32 PM
  7. Jay Sacks's Avatar
    What about wireless charging? Did they add this feature to the X?
    10-14-2014 07:33 PM
  8. Jheebs's Avatar
    What about wireless charging? Did they add this feature to the X?
    negative...
    10-14-2014 07:36 PM
  9. tdizzel's Avatar
    I am trying to decide between the 2. The Turbo looks real cool and I really like the specs. My concern is the amount of bloatware and how the releases will be scheduled? Would the software releases be as zippy on the Turbo as they are with the Nexus and Moto X or would there be a longer wait time?
    No one can know for certain, but I'd expect it to be similar to last year. The Moto X got Kit Kat very quickly, the Droids were only a couple of weeks after the X(and before any other manufacturer). The Droids skipped 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 because they were too buggy, but they got 4.4.4 before the X did. In other words, both got updated very quickly and there is really no advantage for one phone over the other in that category.
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    10-14-2014 07:49 PM
  10. tdizzel's Avatar
    The only 2 real advantages the turbo has over the X is battery and ram. Camera *might* be better, but we won't know until it comes out. QHD on a 5.2" screen is completely useless. I had rather have the performance advantages of 1080p.

    The advantages the moto x has is form factor, moto maker, and *probably* faster and longer updates.

    So to sum, if battery and specs are your thing and the form factor does not bother you on the turbo, get the turbo. If you are big on form factor, customization, and super timely updates, the moto x is probably a better choice.

    Sent from my XT1096
    Please show me where its documented that 1080p has better performance than 2k. That was the rumor when the G3 came out, but updates cleared that up pretty quickly.
    The Turbo also has a better chip in the 805 vs the 801 in the X. So the performance in the Droid should be much better than the X
    Form factor is very subjective. I think the Turbo's is better, but that's my opinion and you have yours.
    You're *probably* quite wrong about updates. The X was only a couple weeks ahead if the Droids last year in getting Kit Kat, And the Droids got 4.4.4 before the X did. It will most likely be the same this year-neither phone will have much of an edge over the other.

    In sum, the only real advantage the X has is Motomaker. Form factor depends on the person and updates are a draw. While the specs are clearly in favor of the Turbo.
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    10-14-2014 07:57 PM
  11. darkestred's Avatar
    The only 2 real advantages the turbo has over the X is battery and ram. Camera *might* be better, but we won't know until it comes out. QHD on a 5.2" screen is completely useless. I had rather have the performance advantages of 1080p.

    The advantages the moto x has is form factor, moto maker, and *probably* faster and longer updates.

    So to sum, if battery and specs are your thing and the form factor does not bother you on the turbo, get the turbo. If you are big on form factor, customization, and super timely updates, the moto x is probably a better choice.

    Sent from my XT1096
    Do we now the dimensions of the turbo? I'm sure they'll be almost identical.
    10-14-2014 08:03 PM
  12. delta7's Avatar
    Don't mean to say anything out of character but if you're on verizon, is this a serious question? Just asking.
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    10-14-2014 08:46 PM
  13. bespinct's Avatar
    Don't mean to say anything out of character but if you're on verizon, is this a serious question? Just asking.
    If the question is just about bloat, than I agree, get the Turbo as the bloat will be the same. If anything bogs the Turbo, it will be the screen resolution...even that is likely to be overcome by processor.

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    10-14-2014 09:20 PM
  14. delta7's Avatar
    The specs are vastly superior, the battery which is easily the most important is vastly superior as well. I'd think most people would prefer the turbo while the x is a niche device designed towards those who are highly into tech. But I hear the turbo has the same x features like moto assist which definitely hurts the x.
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    10-14-2014 09:29 PM
  15. ryanr509's Avatar
    Don't mean to say anything out of character but if you're on verizon, is this a serious question? Just asking.
    I second that
    10-14-2014 09:32 PM
  16. planoman's Avatar
    Bloat is all the added and mostly unnecessary apps preloaded on the phone by the carrier.

    All carriers do it Verizon more than others.
    ATT puts a lot of bloat on also. Not sure if it is more than Verizon but since I am on ATT, I will say yes it is more! A reason I try to buy unlocked when I can.
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    10-14-2014 09:50 PM
  17. cml21's Avatar
    .. and we still don't know cost difference, eh?

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    10-14-2014 09:55 PM
  18. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Please show me where its documented that 1080p has better performance than 2k. That was the rumor when the G3 came out, but updates cleared that up pretty quickly.
    The Turbo also has a better chip in the 805 vs the 801 in the X. So the performance in the Droid should be much better than the X
    Form factor is very subjective. I think the Turbo's is better, but that's my opinion and you have yours.
    You're *probably* quite wrong about updates. The X was only a couple weeks ahead if the Droids last year in getting Kit Kat, And the Droids got 4.4.4 before the X did. It will most likely be the same this year-neither phone will have much of an edge over the other.

    In sum, the only real advantage the X has is Motomaker. Form factor depends on the person and updates are a draw. While the specs are clearly in favor of the Turbo.
    QHD has 1.7 times as many pixels to push over 1080p. Last time I checked, the gpu in the 805 was not 70% more powerful than the the gpu in the 801, so 1080p will have a graphical advantage. And if you can see the difference between the 2 on a 5.2" screen, you have much better vision than I do.

    I just assumed that everyone had a preference for ergo dynamic curved designs over large, squared off bricks. Apparently I was wrong.

    While the Droid line has been not too far behind, the X has gotten updated faster and more consistently. I suspect that the gap will will get larger as time goes on and the the flagship x will be supported longer over the exclusive droids.

    Sent from my XT1096
    10-14-2014 10:04 PM
  19. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Do we now the dimensions of the turbo? I'm sure they'll be almost identical.
    Unless they were leaked in the manual, we do not. But with a battery that much larger, it is guaranteed to be at least thicker, if not a larger footprint as well. Plus the pictures make the turbo look to be the typical pre-moto x Motorola squared off brick design. Instead of the curved back on both of the x's.

    Sent from my XT1096
    10-14-2014 10:09 PM
  20. Revolutionary's Avatar
    This GPU business is a rather silly argument that will be conclusively decided mighty quickly once the phone is out.

    Also, the G3 and Note 4 don't seem to suffer any lag attributable to the resolution. Are there even any apps that push native resolution on Android?
    10-14-2014 10:14 PM
  21. tdizzel's Avatar
    QHD has 1.7 times as many pixels to push over 1080p. Last time I checked, the gpu in the 805 was not 70% more powerful than the the gpu in the 801, so 1080p will have a graphical advantage. And if you can see the difference between the 2 on a 5.2" screen, you have much better vision than I do.

    I just assumed that everyone had a preference for ergo dynamic curved designs over large, squared off bricks. Apparently I was wrong.

    While the Droid line has been not too far behind, the X has gotten updated faster and more consistently. I suspect that the gap will will get larger as time goes on and the the flagship x will be supported longer over the exclusive droids.

    Sent from my XT1096
    I hope you don't really believe any of this nonsense. The OP asks for advice and instead posting facts you post this biased garbage. It's great that you're enjoying your X, but to post things with no basis in actual facts when someone is asking for help is a pretty poor thing to do.
    10-14-2014 10:54 PM
  22. tech_fan's Avatar
    Some very good insights from all concerning parties. Thanks for all of your inputs. I must admit and my eyes are rather iffy, I saw the Note 4 and was mesmerized by its beauty initially. Then I saw demo videos on the Note 3 and Note 4 and could not tell much of a difference between both displays. I also know that in recent tests, the Iphone 6 plus outscored the Note 4. Some speculated that the reason was the QHD screen.

    Nevertheless thanks for all of your input. I appreciate it.
    10-14-2014 11:23 PM
  23. jm1219's Avatar
    This GPU business is a rather silly argument that will be conclusively decided mighty quickly once the phone is out.

    Also, the G3 and Note 4 don't seem to suffer any lag attributable to the resolution. Are there even any apps that push native resolution on Android?
    Apps set a DPI range at which they can run, QHD screens that are phone-sized are natively at a DPI that many apps are simply incompatible with because this type of PPI hasn't been possible before. Many apps have become compatible already, and a simple build.prop edit can trick the play store into what it reads as your DPI
    10-15-2014 01:45 AM
  24. zobog's Avatar
    Moto x is a nice phone at a nice price. I need to see what the turbo costs before I decide.
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    10-15-2014 03:59 AM
  25. Unobtanium's Avatar
    I am trying to decide between the 2. The Turbo looks real cool and I really like the specs. My concern is the amount of bloatware and how the releases will be scheduled? Would the software releases be as zippy on the Turbo as they are with the Nexus and Moto X or would there be a longer wait time?
    Unless something changes, you can at least disable the VZW Bloat (or AT&T Bloat if the rumored Moto Maxx version comes out). While the app still sits there taking up some space, but at least you don't "see" it and no updates are pushed. I've had my Maxx for just over a year and still have over 13 GB available (I don't have tons of music). subtracting "system data" my usage is about 50/50 "Apps" and "Media" using the app Disk Usage.

    I am happy with my Maxx, still have almost a year on contract, and have no plans to get the Turbo on day zero. I might watch the prices and go for a full-price upgrade later (I still have Unlimited data). I am also using a Moto G LTE to test drive AT&T on GoPhone, so I might not be with VZW in the future.
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    10-15-2014 05:55 AM
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