10-24-2014 10:07 PM
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  1. Murph5150's Avatar
    I wasn't expecting two phones with 801 processors to beat the Turbo. The screen isn't very big. I wonder why the S5 and M8 are able to better the Turbo..

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    10-14-2014 09:26 PM
  2. Murph5150's Avatar
    Geek bench.

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    10-14-2014 09:27 PM
  3. delrey1900's Avatar
    Well, I wouldn't be too concerned since the Note 4 with a similar 805 and QHD screen is performing about the same. Also, you must take the screen into consideration as well. Look at the G3 scores in comparison. In other words, is the QHD worth the performance hit, assuming you would even notice this performance difference in real life. So based off what we know, I see nothing of concern.
    10-14-2014 09:33 PM
  4. ryanr509's Avatar
    300 points on a graph doesn't mean anything. I figured people would learn this by now
    10-14-2014 09:48 PM
  5. Murph5150's Avatar
    Well, I wouldn't be too concerned since the Note 4 with a similar 805 and QHD screen is performing about the same. Also, you must take the screen into consideration as well. Look at the G3 scores in comparison. In other words, is the QHD worth the performance hit, assuming you would even notice this performance difference in real life. So based off what we know, I see nothing of concern.
    Yes, I considered screen resolution and the screen size which isn't overwhelmingly large. I am just surprised that 801's are holding their ground. I use an LG G3 and am well aware of the lower scores due to 5.5" of Quad-HD.

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    10-14-2014 10:05 PM
  6. Murph5150's Avatar
    300 points on a graph doesn't mean anything. I figured people would learn this by now
    I wasn't condemning the phone. I was merely surprised by the output. Nobody can mention the word "benchmark" without 10 people reminding the OP that scores are often irrelevant. I'm on top of that, buddy. Relax.

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    10-14-2014 10:07 PM
  7. Revolutionary's Avatar
    The phone isn't released yet. Early build that isn't optimized?
    10-15-2014 07:00 AM
  8. b_slow1's Avatar
    300 points on a graph doesn't mean anything. I figured people would learn this by now
    If people had learned this by now, they wouldn't upgrade their phones every few months to a new phone with only minor spec bumps. But it happens all the time.
    10-15-2014 07:49 AM
  9. ultravisitor's Avatar
    Why do people care about benchmark scores?
    10-15-2014 08:50 AM
  10. Berry me a G's Avatar
    I for one will admit that Im not too savvy on benchmark test or scores. From a laymans point of view it would seem that a better processor would yield better results..Why is this not the case and can anyone explain how these test do not show the true strength of a phone?
    10-15-2014 11:20 AM
  11. delrey1900's Avatar
    Why do people care about benchmark scores?
    Same reason why car enthusiasts care that a car can do 0-60mph in 4.0 seconds instead of 4.2. It's human nature whether we agree with it or not. Some people are all about numbers while others are all about experience. And I would guess there are some that are combo of both.
    10-15-2014 11:56 AM
  12. Crimsonforce's Avatar
    I went from a G3 to GS5. I prefer the GS5 screen over the G3 mainly because I prefer Amoled to LCD. I wasn't blown away by the QHD on the G3. It looked slightly over sharpened and there is very little 4K content out. IMO the GS5 is snappier than my G3 was. I have deblaoted my GS5 and am running Nova launcher. I think the QHD screen definitely affected performance of the G3. But I also thought with the Turbo having the 805 in it that it wouldn't affect performance as much. Looks like it still does. It probably has no effect on day to day use though. Definitely wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I was looking to buy the phone..
    10-15-2014 01:15 PM
  13. Revolutionary's Avatar
    Can OP provide a link (yeah, I could Google it, but excuses)? We don't even know what test that is. Is it even graphically intensive? Maybe the 805 just doesn't perform as well in that test as the 801?

    PS: HTC and Samsung cheat at benchmarks. Just sayin'.
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    10-15-2014 01:23 PM
  14. garyart1's Avatar
    It seems like Motorola has been tweaking the Turbo as it gets closer to release. It looks pretty good.
    [URL] http://blog.gadgetzarena.com/rumours/motorola-droid-turbo-quark-xt1254-spotted-in-geekbench-benchmarks/ [URL]
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    10-15-2014 02:28 PM
  15. Firedogee's Avatar
    The phone isn't released yet. Early build that isn't optimized?
    I agree. Also I heard the Turbo may have a 64bit memory bus which would be optimized with Android L. Not sure about this, but I think it would give an edge over Note 4

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    10-15-2014 04:43 PM
  16. travaz's Avatar
    Honestly the way you use your phone is what is going to dictate how the phone performs in real life. IF you are a major power user then you may max out the performance but to most users the benchmarks are not going to matter that much. So basically it all boils down to how you use your phone I think I am going to be quite happy with the 805 in the Droid turbo

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    10-15-2014 10:26 PM
  17. tdizzel's Avatar
    I wasn't condemning the phone. I was merely surprised by the output. Nobody can mention the word "benchmark" without 10 people reminding the OP that scores are often irrelevant. I'm on top of that, buddy. Relax.

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    No...they aren't "often irrelevant" they are always totally and completely irrelevant. You take anyone with a decent amount of skill, give them the phones on the list and half an hour and they can manipulate the scores to completely flip that list upside down or put any phone in any order that they want. Benchmarks don't mean a thing and if you're on top of that then why did you make this thread? The only things benchmarks serve to do is confuse newer users into thinking that certain phones perform at a certain level which isn't even close to being accurate.
    10-17-2014 05:59 PM
  18. NoYankees44's Avatar
    There is not a huge difference between the 801 and the 805, but there is a very large difference between the graphical overhead between 1080p and 1440p. Will it effect benchmarks and super heavy graphics? Absolutely. Will it effect normal use? Probably not.

    These same questions raise every time there is a jump in resolution. Gpu's need a little time to exceed their predecessors running lower res displays. We probably won't see a processor/QHD completely win out over the 801/1080p until well into next year.

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    10-17-2014 09:09 PM
  19. Firedogee's Avatar
    I agree with ^^^ Sadly I was hoping to do some AutoCAD and Pixar quality animated design on my Moto X and Droid Turbo so I'm just really worried about all these benchmarks and stuff...losing sleep :P

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    10-17-2014 11:13 PM
  20. delrey1900's Avatar
    I agree with ^^^ Sadly I was hoping to do some AutoCAD and Pixar quality animated design on my Moto X and Droid Turbo so I'm just really worried about all these benchmarks and stuff...losing sleep :P

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    Actually, you can use AutoCAD on your phone/tablet. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...desk.autocadws Horrible to use, but you can. Now if you can use SolidWorks and the likes, then that would be amazing.
    10-18-2014 07:19 AM
  21. Firedogee's Avatar
    Actually, you can use AutoCAD on your phone/tablet. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...desk.autocadws Horrible to use, but you can. Now if you can use SolidWorks and the likes, then that would be amazing.
    Good to know. I'm sad that you spoiled my joke though. :P

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    10-18-2014 07:25 AM
  22. Murph5150's Avatar
    Can OP provide a link (yeah, I could Google it, but excuses)? We don't even know what test that is. Is it even graphically intensive? Maybe the 805 just doesn't perform as well in that test as the 801?

    PS: HTC and Samsung cheat at benchmarks. Just sayin'.
    I specified Geek Bench.

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    10-21-2014 10:14 AM
  23. Murph5150's Avatar
    No...they aren't "often irrelevant" they are always totally and completely irrelevant. You take anyone with a decent amount of skill, give them the phones on the list and half an hour and they can manipulate the scores to completely flip that list upside down or put any phone in any order that they want. Benchmarks don't mean a thing and if you're on top of that then why did you make this thread? The only things benchmarks serve to do is confuse newer users into thinking that certain phones perform at a certain level which isn't even close to being accurate.
    That's great. You've provided your opinion and ducked away from fact.

    Some people actually like a visualization of phone speed just like a Corvette owner may dyno his car.

    I'm degreed in both mechanical engineering and theoretical physics. I don't think I could do a 30 minute manipulation to produce falsified scores. If benchmarking was an irrelevant component, why do Geek Bench, AnTuTu, Vellamo and others have over a million downloads? I guess there are several million Android idiots because you seem to be the ultimate authority on Android etiquette. Shame on us all....

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    10-21-2014 10:22 AM
  24. tdizzel's Avatar
    That's great. You've provided your opinion and ducked away from fact.

    Some people actually like a visualization of phone speed just like a Corvette owner may dyno his car.

    I'm degreed in both mechanical engineering and theoretical physics. I don't think I could do a 30 minute manipulation to produce falsified scores. If benchmarking was an irrelevant component, why do Geek Bench, AnTuTu, Vellamo and others have over a million downloads? I guess there are several million Android idiots because you seem to be the ultimate authority on Android etiquette. Shame on us all....

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    Actually is not my opinion, it is fact (well maybe they would need a little more than 15 minutes to do it, but it's easily done )
    Is great that you have your degrees. Could you perform brain surgery right now? Not successfully because it's a different skillset, so your degrees are completely irrelevant to this conversation (although they seem to make you feel good about yourself which is great )
    The fact is its been proven over and over and over and over and over and over and over that benchmarks are extremely easy to manipulate. Samsung was even busted for doing this very thing to make their phones look faster. Just because you can't do it with your degrees doesn't mean it can't be done. That's actually a pretty ridiculous notion to think if you can't do it then it's not possible.
    The reason those sites get so many downloads is that people like to brag and people don't know any better. I mean they even got someone with a theoretical degree in physics to post their useless results.
    And while i appreciate the compliment, i assure you i am not the ultimate authority on anything. But what i do know is that on Android phones, benchmarks are totally, completely and in all ways useless.
    And i never said anyone was an *****. Nobody knows everything, and people don't know benchmarks are useless until someone tells them.
    And thanks for bringing up the car analogy to help prove my point. Is it not possible to rig a speedometer or radar gun to show false speeds? To someone with the right skills it would be very easy to do. Same thing with benchmarks.

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    10-21-2014 11:13 AM
  25. doogald's Avatar
    I guess everybody forgot about the anandtech.com report that Samsung and HTC are known benchmark cheaters: AnandTech | They're (Almost) All Dirty: The State of Cheating in Android Benchmarks

    The Note 3 cheated on Geekbench, so it's possible that the S5 did, too. The HTC One M7 didn't cheat on Geekbench, but perhaps they did on the M8, and they certainly cheated on other benchmarks. Motorola and the Nexus devices were the only devices that didn't cheat on anything.

    I wouldn't get too concerned about benchmarks. It's also possible, as hinted earlier, that the Turbo software was still being tweaked, running debug code, etc., at the time they benchmarks were run. I'd see how they benchmark after the device is actually released.
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    10-21-2014 02:42 PM
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