10-30-2014 10:58 PM
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  1. EngineerGuy's Avatar
    I guess I'm not familiar with the active display and how it works exactly. I liked being able to see if I missed a call/email/text from nearly across the room by just glancing for the LED indication pulsing on my Maxx HD.
    10-28-2014 08:35 PM
  2. -Myk-'s Avatar
    Heck even CNN has a story on it and they tend to be pro Apple and Samsung
    10-28-2014 08:44 PM
  3. ralphtt's Avatar
    I guess I'm not familiar with the active display and how it works exactly. I liked being able to see if I missed a call/email/text from nearly across the room by just glancing for the LED indication pulsing on my Maxx HD.
    I'm with the Engineer on this. Probably not a deal breaker, but cannot imagine lack of the LED to keep me aware of any new texts or emails. I also am not familiar with the active display . . . maybe that does the same job as the notification led but in a different way?
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    10-28-2014 08:55 PM
  4. WhoMe's Avatar
    No Verizon logo anywhere on the Nylon model.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    10-28-2014 09:02 PM
  5. ryanr509's Avatar
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tB-n50vzK8j78A

    There is a little video on the active display for you guys. I find it much better than the LED light. Being able to see the time and preview text and emails without actually turning the screen on is very nice.
    EngineerGuy and dmark44 like this.
    10-28-2014 09:12 PM
  6. ryanr509's Avatar
    No Verizon logo anywhere on the Nylon model.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Do we know if that droid logo on the nylon model is inset into the nylon?
    10-28-2014 09:14 PM
  7. WhoMe's Avatar
    Do we know if that droid logo on the nylon model is inset into the nylon?
    It does appear to be inset. A plastic plate with raised chrome lettering.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    10-28-2014 09:18 PM
  8. ryanr509's Avatar
    It does appear to be inset. A plastic plate with raised chrome lettering.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Nice. Hopefully it isnt a crappy plastic plaque just glued down like a $2 Chinese POS.
    10-28-2014 09:22 PM
  9. al2fast's Avatar
    I thought I would miss the led but don't. I currently have a G2 for personal and the damn thing blinks green no matter what is coming in, cannot seem to get any xposed modules or anything to make it different colors for different notifications. I remember being able to do that on the Maxx HD I had before that, but you still had to look at the phone to see who was sending you the txt or email. I have a 2013 Moto X for my work phone and I really like the active notifications. You're phone is close and it will "pulse" the notifications on the screen. You can just kind of tap the phone and it will show you any notifications. I hear the new X is supposed to be way better with being able to just wave your hand over it. If I would have a choice I would take active notifications over LED. Hell, tried some xposed modules on my G2, but they didn't compare.

    I'm with the Engineer on this. Probably not a deal breaker, but cannot imagine lack of the LED to keep me aware of any new texts or emails. I also am not familiar with the active display . . . maybe that does the same job as the notification led but in a different way?
    10-28-2014 09:26 PM
  10. EngineerGuy's Avatar
    I don't want to have to "wave my hand", tap the screen, or be close enough to see something on the screen if I can help it. I'm not one of those people that have to have their damn phone in their hand 24/7.

    But that's just me.

    No, it's not a deal breaker and I'll be buying this phone as soon as the store opens, but it is a bit of a letdown and is a feature that I've come to like over the iPhone (that I am forced to use for my work phone) which doesn't have the notification LED and forces me to pick up that lousy device to check for emails/calls.
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    10-28-2014 10:11 PM
  11. al2fast's Avatar
    Then you probably won't like it, but you may be pleasantly surprised, I was. Out of curiosity if you are that concerned about having to see if there is a notification on your phone, my guess is you would probably go to check it right away then. Why not then just set the audible notification to repeat more frequently so you could be right on top of them? I guess my point is my LED blinks on my G2 and I have to go to where it is and turn the screen on to see why its blinking. To each his own, you'll have to let us know if you try one out and how you like the notifications!
    10-28-2014 10:17 PM
  12. hazardouse21's Avatar
    I don't want to have to "wave my hand", tap the screen, or be close enough to see something on the screen if I can help it. I'm not one of those people that have to have their damn phone in their hand 24/7.

    But that's just me.

    No, it's not a deal breaker and I'll be buying this phone as soon as the store opens, but it is a bit of a letdown and is a feature that I've come to like over the iPhone (that I am forced to use for my work phone) which doesn't have the notification LED and forces me to pick up that lousy device to check for emails/calls.
    This is pretty much how I feel about it. Will still likely be buying a Turbo, but I really wish it had a notification LED. With my Galaxy S3 I can tell from across the room what kind of notification I have and sometimes even who a message is from.

    Oh well, I'm sure I'll get used to the display notifications.
    10-28-2014 10:21 PM
  13. EngineerGuy's Avatar
    Then you probably won't like it, but you may be pleasantly surprised, I was. Out of curiosity if you are that concerned about having to see if there is a notification on your phone, my guess is you would probably go to check it right away then. Why not then just set the audible notification to repeat more frequently so you could be right on top of them? I guess my point is my LED blinks on my G2 and I have to go to where it is and turn the screen on to see why its blinking. To each his own, you'll have to let us know if you try one out and how you like the notifications!
    I'm not "that concerned about having to see if there is a notification", I just like the feature so that if I leave the room for a while I can just take a glance at the phone when I get back and see if anything came in without having to physically bother with it.

    As far as repetitive audible alerts, I don't want the thing constantly squawking when I'm away (such as at work).
    10-28-2014 10:26 PM
  14. maxman1's Avatar
    IMHO, active notifications are superior in every way - I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around the resistance to one of this series' (since original Moto X) greatest features. Unless, of course, you don't really grasp how it truly functions. If you do understand it and still prefer a non-discript blinking light then, there's nothing left to say but find a phone you prefer better. Progress moves on.
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    10-28-2014 10:30 PM
  15. EngineerGuy's Avatar
    They are "superior" if you can't stand leaving your phone out of your hand for more than 30 seconds. I'll have to see how the screen notification looks in person, but there is no denying a pulsing LED that can be easily seen without having to look at the screen. If anyone has had the HD, you know how bright that LED is!

    I can appreciate the active notification features and "grasp" how it works, but I have trouble seeing how it can be comparable to the LED which is easily viewed from a distance. Having whiz-bang features doesn't necessarily equate to "progress".

    But like I said, I'm not one who thinks a phone is an extension of my body and has to be held, admired, and given utmost attention at every waking second. Nor do I feel a compulsive need to check Facebook, Twitter, or whatever the flavor of the month social app is to make sure "I'm not missing something". For my use I simply like the option to be able to take a glance at my phone which may have been sitting on my desk for *gasp* minutes unattended, and see if something or someone has tried to contact me. If not, I move on with my life and will check it later.
    10-28-2014 10:49 PM
  16. maxt_63's Avatar
    Will the boot loader be locked down and will rooting be hard to develop?
    10-28-2014 11:08 PM
  17. maxman1's Avatar
    Perhaps it might help to think of active notifications as pulsing "smart" lights that supplant the generic LED and which give you the information at a glance which is actionable on lock screen for response minus any significant other input. It will not only be as visually detectable as the LED, it will also also enable a faster, less cumbersome interaction. Sidebar benefits are significant battery savings due to only needing to light up the used portion of the screen. If you've been away from the phone a while and want to check for any messages quickly just pick it up or just wave a hand over it where it lays. It may even respond to a voice query. Love a friend's X, can't wait for one of these bad boys. I do hammer mine with hard use doing an ever-increasing volume of stuff I never thought I'd do on a phone though so efficiency is important to me.
    10-28-2014 11:18 PM
  18. travaz's Avatar
    Just got off the phone with Verizon sales and tried to order the Turbo in ballistic nylon 64 gig. After educating a very nice lady she was like wow. So she looked it up and I can upgrade early fro 249 for the 64 gig. However they cant pre order till Thursday
    10-28-2014 11:34 PM
  19. pchain's Avatar
    The lack of a multicolor LED notification light is my primary reason for not getting the Turbo. The camera is the second reason, although we don't know for sure what degree of mediocre it will be. Hopefully we will all be surprised!

    The practical reason I prefer the LED over active display is simple. From 20 feet away, I can tell the difference between my boss emailing me vs a spam email vs my wife or daughter texting me vs a text from Verizon saying my overly inflated bill is ready for payment. This is because I can control the light color, and interval speed. Active display can't do this, it serves another purpose entirely, which I guess I really don't want or need.

    To each his own, there's nothing better about either approach by itself... Its just a matter of which approach works better for your needs.

    I got the Sony Z3v last Friday. It has the LED light and a great camera which were priorities for me. Its a solid performer with 8-9 hour screen time battery life, and really love the slab factor and design, although I really wish it had ballistic nylon in the back! LOL.

    Having said that though, I will definitely be checking out the Turbo on Thursday since, after all, I'm within my 14 day return/exchange period! :-)
    10-29-2014 01:48 AM
  20. doogald's Avatar
    But like I said, I'm not one who thinks a phone is an extension of my body and has to be held, admired, and given utmost attention at every waking second. Nor do I feel a compulsive need to check Facebook, Twitter, or whatever the flavor of the month social app is to make sure "I'm not missing something". For my use I simply like the option to be able to take a glance at my phone which may have been sitting on my desk for *gasp* minutes unattended, and see if something or someone has tried to contact me. If not, I move on with my life and will check it later.
    Right. I get why people like leds, as I once did, but one thing I didn't like is I never knew if that blinking green was Gmail, a phone call, or a text message. With active display, since you don't have a compulsive need to know, you'll be fine. You'll just have to change your behavior to actually walk within seeing distance of the display and see which icon is showing. If you see just a lock icon, you haven't missed anything.

    I'm sure you'll be fine with active display. It's definitely not like an iPhone, where you need to power the device on to see if you missed anything.
    10-29-2014 07:13 AM
  21. doogald's Avatar
    Will the boot loader be locked down and will rooting be hard to develop?
    We haven't heard anything about a developer edition yet so I'd assume for now that it will be locked down. If you want a phone that can be unlocked, buy the nexus 6. It may be worth a wait of a month if you want to see if they announce a dev edition of the turbo. They had a dev edition Maxx last year after about a month.

    Rooting will continue to be harder and harder as old vulnerabilities are patched, and Lollipop is supposed to be locked down more when that comes out. That doesn't mean it won't happen but it means that it's less likely to happen and probably more likely to take longer if it does happen.
    10-29-2014 07:19 AM
  22. TechJunkie#AC's Avatar
    Will the boot loader be locked down and will rooting be hard to develop?
    There's some discussion on this in the XDA Turbo forum.

    I believe this device is going to be rooted and unlocked much faster than any other phone coming out. Samsung's Knox is great for a reason and I don't see the Note 4 getting unlocked before the Turbo.

    Sunshine 3.0 is on the horizon. As long as we force ourselves to stay on 4.4.4 we'll be fine. Once Lollipop gets pushed it's a whole other story.

    This is exactly why I'm glad it's shipping with KitKat.
    10-29-2014 08:24 AM
  23. Clocks's Avatar
    My store confirmed they have 64gb in stock for tomorrow

    They wouldn't sell me one today though
    10-29-2014 10:50 AM
  24. edgefever's Avatar
    My two corporate stores still won't acknowledge it is coming out, one didn't know about it.
    10-29-2014 11:00 AM
  25. Cajun_Mike's Avatar
    The lack of a multicolor LED notification light is my primary reason for not getting the Turbo. The camera is the second reason, although we don't know for sure what degree of mediocre it will be. Hopefully we will all be surprised!

    The practical reason I prefer the LED over active display is simple. From 20 feet away, I can tell the difference between my boss emailing me vs a spam email vs my wife or daughter texting me vs a text from Verizon saying my overly inflated bill is ready for payment. This is because I can control the light color, and interval speed. Active display can't do this, it serves another purpose entirely, which I guess I really don't want or need.

    To each his own, there's nothing better about either approach by itself... Its just a matter of which approach works better for your needs.

    I got the Sony Z3v last Friday. It has the LED light and a great camera which were priorities for me. Its a solid performer with 8-9 hour screen time battery life, and really love the slab factor and design, although I really wish it had ballistic nylon in the back! LOL.

    Having said that though, I will definitely be checking out the Turbo on Thursday since, after all, I'm within my 14 day return/exchange period! :-)
    you werent getting the Turbo because you bought a phone last week. No need for the rest of your nonsense post.
    10-29-2014 11:46 AM
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