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  1. Clocks's Avatar
    Thanks. How would you describe the two? I see the Camera FX showing more detail on the braid of the headphone cable, but other than that, not much difference.
    That's probably because camera fx will save at 100% jpeg where the default is probably 90 or 95.

    I always use the stock camera. Never found a difference with the 3rd party cameras unless you want to mess with a bunch of settings every shot.
    11-06-2014 08:48 PM
  2. Premium1's Avatar
    I don't think the camera is *that* bad, now that being said, I really can't tell much of a difference between photos taken on most flagship android devices these days except for a few areas. Now I am no professional photographer and maybe I just don't have the eyes to pick out all the "issues" with the camera. Now that being said, I am going to wait until lollipop is out before picking one up, to see if lollipop will enhance the camera among other things. But like others said, it is mainly because everyone has different expectations when it comes to phones and cameras.
    11-06-2014 08:58 PM
  3. PowrDroid's Avatar
    That's probably because camera fx will save at 100% jpeg where the default is probably 90 or 95.

    I always use the stock camera. Never found a difference with the 3rd party cameras unless you want to mess with a bunch of settings every shot.
    I messed around with several camera apps with my Maxx HD, but ended up using the stock app. The colors with the third party apps were not accurate. Think about it, the stock app is optimized for the sensor in your particular camera whereas third party apps are one size fits all.
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    11-06-2014 09:20 PM
  4. Closingracer's Avatar
    Hi, I don't get the argument, it's a great camera, best on any phone I have ever had. Go to Verizon, snap some pix in the store, try an iPhone, try a Sony, a note 4,they are all very good. Just a thought.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I went from a T-Mobile Note 4 And figured to save $5 from getting a Verizon one and get this phone instead since I thought I would like it and Wanted to buy it at Bestbuy since they are offering Game Unlocked which costs $120 for 2 years and basically offers 20% discounts off all new games for free and a $150 Bestbuy Gift Card to boot if you activate a new line with Verizon. They didn't have any models of the Turbo up and the rep was actually curious about the phone since he never seen it himself before. I love the phone Hardware and software with the exception of the Camera. Since I am coming from a Note 4, Note 3 and a Nexus 5 and I think the software used with Samsung is better then Motorola for Camera for DIS( Digital image stabilization) from my experience with the Turbo and the Note 4 and Nexus 5 both have OIS which i think if the Turbo had it would help. I found slight movement made by me made the pictures blurry with the Turbo where it would look ok with the Note 3 which also has DIS and not OIS. I also found the pictures to be a bit washed out with the Turbo compared to my Note 4 , Note 3, Nexus 5 , iPad Air 2 even and a friends iPhone 5S. This is just my opinion of the Camera and ultimately the only persons opinion is your own and if you like the quality then that is fantastic
    11-07-2014 08:27 AM
  5. Bob Maida's Avatar
    This is a great phone and takes wonderful pics provided subject is still and hand doesn't shake....All because of shutterlag..I hope and pray the update
    L will correct this..Correct the shutterlag and it'll be perfect.
    11-08-2014 08:11 AM
  6. wolf_walker's Avatar
    I got some really nice shots yesterday afternoon as the sun was going down.
    And with our tree cover it's seldom really sunny here. The shutter lag is seemingly
    random, which means the software is computing something we aren't aware of and
    having a hard time with it for whatever reason. Sometimes it's there, sometimes
    it isn't at all. I can't repeatably say it's the difference between low light and well lit but
    I still suspect that is part of it. I got photo's yesterday of our dogs in (walking) motion that snapped
    quick and were not blurry, and some great close up of flowers and some really tuff shots of the wife
    in the garden with part shade/part sunlit and it handled them as well as I'd expect any cell cam to.
    It's liveable given the battery and screen, but it's not outstanding imo.
    Low light without flash will continue to be a problem I suspect unless the stars happen
    to align correctly. Even high end cameras need hardware image stabilization or a tripod and
    one's hand off the device to do well there, it's just the way of things.
    11-08-2014 02:51 PM
  7. Nreeldeep's Avatar
    Hi, I don't get the argument, it's a great camera, best on any phone I have ever had. Go to Verizon, snap some pix in the store, try an iPhone, try a Sony, a note 4,they are all very good. Just a thought.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    No argument was made. OP is concerned that the reviews he read are all over the map in terms of camera quality and he seeks feedback from those who own a Turbo.
    11-09-2014 02:11 AM
  8. mimsiesboy's Avatar
    No argument was made. OP is concerned that the reviews he read are all over the map in terms of camera quality and he seeks feedback from those who own a Turbo.
    It's all subjective, nothing like trying the camera out yourself, everyone has an opinion, is it info you seek? Road test it. I do own a 64gb turbo and am loving it. Did you take the plastic off?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    11-09-2014 07:45 AM
  9. Closingracer's Avatar
    It's all subjective, nothing like trying the camera out yourself, everyone has an opinion, is it info you seek? Road test it. I do own a 64gb turbo and am loving it. Did you take the plastic off?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I didnt like the camera thus I returned it. Found slight movement made it blurry and didn't like the fact you can't choose where it should focus on. If you like it then great because that's all that matters. Personally I think the best camera on a phone that I have tried is the note 4. Tried the iphone 6 plus and while was solid was a bit noisy and was decent overall

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    11-09-2014 04:19 PM
  10. mimsiesboy's Avatar
    I didnt like the camera thus I returned it. Found slight movement made it blurry and didn't like the fact you can't choose where it should focus on. If you like it then great because that's all that matters. Personally I think the best camera on a phone that I have tried is the note 4. Tried the iphone 6 plus and while was solid was a bit noisy and was decent overall

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    I just couldn't go with the Samsung TW again after spending time with the s3, for me it was the whole of the device, nearly stock Android, good camera, great battery, quality build, bleeding edge hardware, it's been 7 days and I am more than satisfied with it. Beautiful device.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    11-09-2014 04:38 PM
  11. Closingracer's Avatar
    I just couldn't go with the Samsung TW again after spending time with the s3, for me it was the whole of the device, nearly stock Android, good camera, great battery, quality build, bleeding edge hardware, it's been 7 days and I am more than satisfied with it. Beautiful device.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    See that's the problem ....people,love to base touch wiz back in the s2 s3 days when for the most part it is fine now.....for me camera was meh ( terrible ....worse then my iPad Air 2 which has a 8 mp camera) , battery life was only on par to the note 4 even with smaller screen and bigger battery, it doesn't have a removable battery which I want since I don't like the non removable ones since you can't replace them should they fail, no micro Sd card slot and no ois in the camera which produces better pictures and specially in low light conditions where the turbo does suffer


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    11-09-2014 04:45 PM
  12. BlueBlazer60's Avatar
    Note 4 is a good phone and does address some people's concerns. It is just not for me. Too big, stylus to lose, and have not idea what I would write with the stylus before I lost it. But if you like 'em big and have a need to write notes sure it will do an excellent job for you.
    11-09-2014 10:20 PM
  13. wolf_walker's Avatar
    you can't choose where it should focus on.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    Default config is focus where you touch/capture, I didn't care for that but in the options (swype in left to right) you can enable
    a mode in which one drag's the reticle to the point of the screen focus is desired at, then tap anywhere to capture.
    Nice setup, works well. No idea why it's not enabled by default.
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    11-09-2014 11:19 PM
  14. mauldinphoto's Avatar
    I'm a professional photographer.
    Past phones Note 2 and Note 3.
    I've had the Turbo over a week.
    Feels very well made.
    Long battery life.
    Fast downloads and uploads.
    Screen is beautiful but not as bright as the Note for outside use so taking pictures and editing is a struggle.
    And the camera..It CAN take great pictures..BUT..I'm very disappointed in it. (compared to Note 3)
    -Lags in snapping the picture.
    -Lacks in manual controls of ISO, exposure and white balance. These are key to controlling the outcome of an image.
    -HDR is very poor.
    -Panarama is HORRIBLE.
    -Blurs most movement unless in bright daylight.
    -Not near as sharp as the Note 3 (Note 3 could render too sharp though)..but with some editing it sharpens up nicely.
    -The selective focus and exposure setting is very glitchy and really struggles even in bright indoor light..low indoor light is pointless.

    So..hopefully the Lollipop will fix these issues about the camera. I don't feel I'm being picky because I've used lower quality phones that had much better camera control. This needs to be fixed.

    Please let me know if you find the same issues and if there are other camera apps that can overcome these issues. I've downloaded Google Camera and Camera FV-5(bought it) and still struggle compared to Samsungs camera app.
    11-10-2014 11:01 AM
  15. Closingracer's Avatar
    I'm a professional photographer.
    Past phones Note 2 and Note 3.
    I've had the Turbo over a week.
    Feels very well made.
    Long battery life.
    Fast downloads and uploads.
    Screen is beautiful but not as bright as the Note for outside use so taking pictures and editing is a struggle.
    And the camera..It CAN take great pictures..BUT..I'm very disappointed in it. (compared to Note 3)
    -Lags in snapping the picture.
    -Lacks in manual controls of ISO, exposure and white balance. These are key to controlling the outcome of an image.
    -HDR is very poor.
    -Panarama is HORRIBLE.
    -Blurs most movement unless in bright daylight.
    -Not near as sharp as the Note 3 (Note 3 could render too sharp though)..but with some editing it sharpens up nicely.
    -The selective focus and exposure setting is very glitchy and really struggles even in bright indoor light..low indoor light is pointless.

    So..hopefully the Lollipop will fix these issues about the camera. I don't feel I'm being picky because I've used lower quality phones that had much better camera control. This needs to be fixed.

    Please let me know if you find the same issues and if there are other camera apps that can overcome these issues. I've downloaded Google Camera and Camera FV-5(bought it) and still struggle compared to Samsungs camera app.
    That's my point... The camera can take good pictures but only in good conditions. Low light it was a pain and any movement was blurry.

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    11-10-2014 11:32 AM
  16. wolf_walker's Avatar
    I did some back to back low light shots last night and the Google Camera was turning out better shots than the stock camera app would on any setting as far as noise and focus when zoomed in. This was with the phone resting on a hard surface to remove movement from the equation.
    The more I use it the more I think it's software problems.
    11-10-2014 12:42 PM
  17. Closingracer's Avatar
    I did some back to back low light shots last night and the Google Camera was turning out better shots than the stock camera app would on any setting as far as noise and focus when zoomed in. This was with the phone resting on a hard surface to remove movement from the equation.
    The more I use it the more I think it's software problems.
    Well having ois would help a lot of as well which is why I prefer the note 4


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    11-10-2014 01:17 PM
  18. BlueBlazer60's Avatar
    I'm a professional photographer.
    Past phones Note 2 and Note 3.
    I've had the Turbo over a week.
    Feels very well made.
    Long battery life.
    Fast downloads and uploads.
    Screen is beautiful but not as bright as the Note for outside use so taking pictures and editing is a struggle.
    And the camera..It CAN take great pictures..BUT..I'm very disappointed in it. (compared to Note 3)
    -Lags in snapping the picture.
    -Lacks in manual controls of ISO, exposure and white balance. These are key to controlling the outcome of an image.
    -HDR is very poor.
    -Panarama is HORRIBLE.
    -Blurs most movement unless in bright daylight.
    -Not near as sharp as the Note 3 (Note 3 could render too sharp though)..but with some editing it sharpens up nicely.
    -The selective focus and exposure setting is very glitchy and really struggles even in bright indoor light..low indoor light is pointless.

    So..hopefully the Lollipop will fix these issues about the camera. I don't feel I'm being picky because I've used lower quality phones that had much better camera control. This needs to be fixed.

    Please let me know if you find the same issues and if there are other camera apps that can overcome these issues. I've downloaded Google Camera and Camera FV-5(bought it) and still struggle compared to Samsungs camera app.
    Pretty much sums up the camera experience. Motorola has never been known for having strong camera. A part of the reason is staying close to pure Android. Lollipop will be the first time the base Android Camera API will allow access to manual controls. It could be a lot better. I am surprised a professional photographer selected this phone. Camera issues have been a continuing issue with Motorola devices. Moto X (2014) has some of the same camera issues.
    11-10-2014 09:43 PM
  19. Closingracer's Avatar
    Pretty much sums up the camera experience. Motorola has never been known for having strong camera. A part of the reason is staying close to pure Android. Lollipop will be the first time the base Android Camera API will allow access to manual controls. It could be a lot better. I am surprised a professional photographer selected this phone. Camera issues have been a continuing issue with Motorola devices. Moto X (2014) has some of the same camera issues.
    I don't think lollipop will fix the turbo's issues though to make a great camera

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    11-10-2014 10:29 PM
  20. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Here's another review that found the camera to be quite good. This is GSM Arena, a site that I find to be especially credible since they run rigorous tests and seem to be fairly objective. They have a camera compare tool, which I find to be quite useful. I've already emailed them and asked them to add the Droid Turbo to their compare tool. They have tested scores of cameras so when they say the Droid Turbo is a very good shooter, I believe them. Camera Compare Tool found here: Photo Compare Tool - GSMArena.com
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    The Motorola Droid Turbo captures some really nice images. Image processing is not as mature as we would have liked, but there is plenty of detail in all shots. It's hard to compare it directly to the Sony smartphones that presumably make use of the same 20MP lens, but we're quite happy with the shots the Droid Turbo produces just as it is. We doubt it's much better than the current high-end crop of 16MP cameraphones, but it's still on par with them if not better.

    The camera of the smartphone doesn't disappoint either. It isn't quite the best we have tested, but it isn't far off the top either - you will not be disappointed by the images and the videos you have captured with it.


    Motorola Droid Turbo review: Power robot - page 8 - GSMArena.com
    11-11-2014 09:11 AM
  21. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Take a look at the amazing detail in the shots taken from the GSM Arena review. Hover your mouse over the images and look around.

    In this shot look at the bas-relief artwork above the arch of the Astoria Plaza New York Sports club. Or check out the individual bricks on the brick wall above the Coors Light truck. Check out the sign the guy in front of the pharmacy entrance is holding-- "One Hour Photo". Or look at the individual light elements in the traffic light. Astonishing.

    Camera Sample - GSMArena.com


    In this shot, check out the inscription above the Doric columns on the building. Obviously that building houses a post office (yes, I see where it says US Post Office). The sculpted art fringing the top of the building. Or read the license plate on the white van. Look at the grey sign atop the Toyota Camry taxi cab--"Amazing is Getting a Second Chance at Life". Yes, I checked the windows of the building in the background for people, didn't see any, but if there had been any I could have seen them. Incredible detail.

    Camera Sample - GSMArena.com
    11-11-2014 09:36 AM
  22. BlueBlazer60's Avatar
    Take a look at the amazing detail in the shots taken from the GSM Arena review. Hover your mouse over the images and look around.

    In this shot look at the bas-relief artwork above the arch of the Astoria Plaza New York Sports club. Or check out the individual bricks on the brick wall above the Coors Light truck. Check out the sign the guy in front of the pharmacy entrance is holding-- "One Hour Photo". Or look at the individual light elements in the traffic light. Astonishing.

    Camera Sample - GSMArena.com


    In this shot, check out the inscription above the Doric columns on the building. Obviously that building houses a post office (yes, I see where it says US Post Office). The sculpted art fringing the top of the building. Or read the license plate on the white van. Look at the grey sign atop the Toyota Camry taxi cab--"Amazing is Getting a Second Chance at Life". Yes, I checked the windows of the building in the background for people, didn't see any, but if there had been any I could have seen them. Incredible detail.

    Camera Sample - GSMArena.com
    I agree with you. These sample pictures show the Turbo camera at its best. There have been very few, if any, comments concerning poor quality of static scenes in good light conditions.

    The negative comments about camera quality have primarily have been related to shots that can challenge any camera - low light and/or action shots. The Turbo fails to address the challenge as well as many other phone cameras. One contributing factor might be the lag between when you trigger the shutter and when the shutter actually processes. However my guess would be it is more due to using a slower shutter speed to capture the picture in low light. Unfortunately with the camera app is not way to control the relationship between aperture and shutter speed. If you look at the EXIF values on your pictures you can find what these values were for your shots. The range of values is not even close to values from a good point and shoot camera.
    11-11-2014 10:53 AM
  23. BlueBlazer60's Avatar
    I don't think lollipop will fix the turbo's issues though to make a great camera

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    Never even might to imply movement to anywhere near great.

    I have never seen and don't expect to see in my life time a cell phone camera that I would classify as great. Too much of a serious amateur photographer with too much SLR and DLR experience. Not even sure I would say any phone camera comes close to a good mid range and better point and shoot camera. I tend to have both the phone and a small [pocket size] point and shoot with me most of the time. (I knew they invented cargo pants for a reason. )

    If the phone camera works for you, GREAT. You end up with more money in your pocket than folks like me. One phone camera, two film cameras, and three digital cameras [that i use].
    11-11-2014 11:09 AM
  24. Closingracer's Avatar
    Never even might to imply movement to anywhere near great.

    I have never seen and don't expect to see in my life time a cell phone camera that I would classify as great. Too much of a serious amateur photographer with too much SLR and DLR experience. Not even sure I would say any phone camera comes close to a good mid range and better point and shoot camera. I tend to have both the phone and a small [pocket size] point and shoot with me most of the time. (I knew they invented cargo pants for a reason. )

    If the phone camera works for you, GREAT. You end up with more money in your pocket than folks like me. One phone camera, two film cameras, and three digital cameras [that i use].
    I mean great relative to a camera phone


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    11-11-2014 11:10 AM
  25. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I agree with you. These sample pictures show the Turbo camera at its best. There have been very few, if any, comments concerning poor quality of static scenes in good light conditions.
    There are vehicles moving in the shot with the Post Office. There is a guy walking in the shot of the pharmacy/street scene.

    The negative comments about camera quality have primarily have been related to shots that can challenge any camera - low light and/or action shots. The Turbo fails to address the challenge as well as many other phone cameras.
    There are low light shots at the link I provided.

    One contributing factor might be the lag between when you trigger the shutter and when the shutter actually processes. However my guess would be it is more due to using a slower shutter speed to capture the picture in low light. Unfortunately with the camera app is not way to control the relationship between aperture and shutter speed. If you look at the EXIF values on your pictures you can find what these values were for your shots. The range of values is not even close to values from a good point and shoot camera.
    Ability to control aperture and shutter speed will be available with Lollipop. I think this can be done currently with a 3rd party app.
    11-11-2014 11:16 AM
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