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  1. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Reading the reviews on the web, looking at sample photos, and reading the forums it seems clear that there is a disagreement as to the quality of the camera on the Droid Turbo. For example, some report good to excellent photos, even in low light conditions. Some report OK photos in low light conditions. Some say there is a delay between the time the shutter is pressed and others say there is not. Some say the latest software update helped their camera, others say it made no difference. Almost everyone says the camera is better than past Moto offerings.

    So what's going on? Have some customers received cameras that are inferior to others cameras? Or are some customers predisposed to like the camera while others are predisposed to think it is lousy?

    It's important to me because my contract is up at the end of the month and I'm looking for a replacement phone for my Maxx HD. I loved everything about the Maxx HD except the camera. I don't want to get another phone with a sub-standard camera. I'll probably get the Droid Turbo but if I don't get the unicorn tears version, I'll need to return it.
    11-05-2014 10:52 AM
  2. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Here's an example I just found:

    Around back, Motorola’s new Droid Turbo features a 21-megapixel camera that, for me, was the most surprising thing about the device. Motorola’s phones have historically not even approached class leaders when it comes to camera quality, but the camera on the Droid Turbo is fantastic.

    The camera touts an f/2.0 aperture and a dual-LED flash, and photos captured by the Droid Turbo are vivid and crisp. In fact, they are almost on par with the iPhone 6 Plus and Galaxy Note 4, which are the best camera phones on the market in my opinion.


    Motorola Droid Turbo Review: An in-depth review of the Droid Turbo | BGR
    11-05-2014 11:02 AM
  3. BlueBlazer60's Avatar
    According to published reports the entire camera situation will change with the release of Lollipop. So a lot of the issues discussed to this point might not be relevant. Find an article and review the changes coming.

    IMHO, a significant problem is the different level of expectations of the user. From the examples posted, I believe the camera as it exists would serve my needs. It is certainly better than my current phone camera. Most of my photography is done with one of my four camera cameras. The phone camera is used quick shots for which I don't expect the highest quality.

    On the other hand, individuals who use the camera as their only or primary camera are probably not going to be as welling to say the camera is acceptable to them. Especially if they shoot action scenes.

    But as I said in my opening comments, Android L is a very different set of camera related software. Hopefully by the time you are ready to make your decision enough results from Turbos on Lollipop will be available to help you. Even though the reported changes in the software read very good, we can only wait and see if the installed result is going to jump us ahead of the "happy unicorn tears" version. Not sure but I think "happy unicorn tears" version was a very limited edition.
    11-05-2014 11:14 AM
  4. mimsiesboy's Avatar
    Hi, I don't get the argument, it's a great camera, best on any phone I have ever had. Go to Verizon, snap some pix in the store, try an iPhone, try a Sony, a note 4,they are all very good. Just a thought.

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    11-05-2014 11:26 AM
  5. rghurtle's Avatar
    Best phone camera that I've ever had. Just as good as my wife's s5.
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    11-05-2014 11:30 AM
  6. PowrDroid's Avatar
    According to published reports the entire camera situation will change with the release of Lollipop. So a lot of the issues discussed to this point might not be relevant. Find an article and review the changes coming.
    Here:
    The Android L will let you take, process pictures like a pro : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times

    Android "L" Feature Spotlight: New Camera API Enables Burst Mode, Thorough Control Over Photos, And Much More

    As I understand it, this update to the camera, via Lollipop, will allow for added functionality and features. However, (correct me if I'm wrong) it also means that Moto or Google or some other app developer will need to update their camera app so as to be able to access these improvements. In other words, when I get Lollipop on my new Droid Turbo, my camera will not instantly turn into a new beast.

    IMHO, a significant problem is the different level of expectations of the user. From the examples posted, I believe the camera as it exists would serve my needs. It is certainly better than my current phone camera. Most of my photography is done with one of my four camera cameras. The phone camera is used quick shots for which I don't expect the highest quality.

    On the other hand, individuals who use the camera as their only or primary camera are probably not going to be as welling to say the camera is acceptable to them. Especially if they shoot action scenes.
    Yes, I understand this. My expectations are that when I shoot a picture in good lighting it will come out clear and detailed and there will be no need to take another shot. It won't be blurry and require a re-shoot. Same thing with flash. If I'm taking a picture of something that is not more than 8-10 feet away using the flash, it had better be clear, and sufficiently lit up, the flash coordinated with the shutter. Too many times my Maxx HD would fail these simple tasks. I don't expect my camera phone to capture good action scenes unless I'm in bright sunlight and close to the action. Even then, I would not expect great results.

    But as I said in my opening comments, Android L is a very different set of camera related software. Hopefully by the time you are ready to make your decision enough results from Turbos on Lollipop will be available to help you. Even though the reported changes in the software read very good, we can only wait and see if the installed result is going to jump us ahead of the "happy unicorn tears" version. Not sure but I think "happy unicorn tears" version was a very limited edition.
    Yes, I think you need to show your Motorola Droid Fanboy Club Membership Card to the sales rep at Verizon. They will then take out the Unicorn Tears version from behind the counter, remove the plain paper wrapper and sell it to you.
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    11-05-2014 11:31 AM
  7. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Hi, I don't get the argument, it's a great camera, best on any phone I have ever had.
    That's great. Others are not so happy. The disparity between people's reports is the point of my OP.

    Go to Verizon, snap some pix in the store, try an iPhone, try a Sony, a note 4,they are all very good. Just a thought.
    I did that last week and I thought it was a decent camera. But it's hard to thoroughly test it inside the store.
    11-05-2014 11:33 AM
  8. areyes163's Avatar
    On mine there is a slight pause while the phone takes photos but nothing major it does however takes great photos. I have had no issues with them. I am far from a photographer though but for what I do with it it is more than acceptable.
    11-05-2014 11:45 AM
  9. PowrDroid's Avatar
    On mine there is a slight pause while the phone takes photos but nothing major it does however takes great photos. I have had no issues with them. I am far from a photographer though but for what I do with it it is more than acceptable.
    Does this "slight pause" vary with the lighting conditions? That is, if there is bright sunlight there is an almost instantaneous shot, but if there is low light and you are not using the flash there is a delay?
    11-05-2014 11:50 AM
  10. Clocks's Avatar
    Because of the shutter lag I would say the turbo is one of the worst camera phones I've ever used (s3, note 2 and 3,nexus 5, 2013 x, 2014 x to name the most recent ones). I cannot take the phone out of my pocket and snap a photo inside (even in the middle of the day with blinds open and every light turned on) that isn't blurry if the subject is moving in the slightest.

    If I did more outdoor shots, or still shots, it'd be fine.

    The only way I've been able to get rid of the blur from the lag is to take a series of photos by holding my finger down. As long as the camera doesn't need to refocus (ie nothing is moving toward or away from you) this seems to take a faster/less blurred photo.
    11-05-2014 12:12 PM
  11. Clocks's Avatar
    This is every indoor photo for me.

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    11-05-2014 12:14 PM
  12. Clocks's Avatar
    One last comment on this. The shutter in the below photo was pressed at the exact same time on my droid turbo and my 2014 moto x.

    Neither one belongs in a magazine, but my dog was able to sit up before the photo was taken on the turbo.

    I'm really hoping android L resolves this.

    /edit - HDR off on both cameras, and before i pressed the shutter on either i let both phones pre-focus on the dog.

    The Droid Turbo Camera Quandry-untitled.jpg
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    11-05-2014 12:28 PM
  13. PowrDroid's Avatar
    This is every indoor photo for me.
    Do you have your camera set on HDR Auto? If that is on, I'd turn HDR off for subjects that are moving (like the dog).
    11-05-2014 12:31 PM
  14. PowrDroid's Avatar
    One last comment on this. The shutter in the below photo was pressed at the exact same time on my droid turbo and my 2014 moto x.

    Neither one belongs in a magazine, but my dog was able to sit up before the photo was taken on the turbo.

    I'm really hoping android L resolves this.
    That is interesting...
    11-05-2014 12:32 PM
  15. Clocks's Avatar
    Do you have your camera set on HDR Auto? If that is on, I'd turn HDR off for subjects that are moving (like the dog).
    HDR is always off on both phones
    11-05-2014 12:36 PM
  16. Firedogee's Avatar
    I'll probably get the Droid Turbo but if I don't get the unicorn tears version, I'll need to return it.
    I'll put a good word in for you at the next Unicorn Alliance meeting.

    PS. I think the wide variety of personal results is caused by the extreme variation in personal expectations. Unreasonable Expectations = A resentment waiting to happen. Which would explains all the loving/hating on these threads.

    Sent Turbo-fast from my bulletproof 64GB Droid Turbo
    11-05-2014 12:37 PM
  17. Firedogee's Avatar
    According to published reports the entire camera situation will change with the release of Lollipop. So a lot of the issues discussed to this point might not be relevant. Find an article and review the changes coming.

    IMHO, a significant problem is the different level of expectations of the user. From the examples posted, I believe the camera as it exists would serve my needs. It is certainly better than my current phone camera. Most of my photography is done with one of my four camera cameras. The phone camera is used quick shots for which I don't expect the highest quality.

    On the other hand, individuals who use the camera as their only or primary camera are probably not going to be as welling to say the camera is acceptable to them. Especially if they shoot action scenes.

    But as I said in my opening comments, Android L is a very different set of camera related software. Hopefully by the time you are ready to make your decision enough results from Turbos on Lollipop will be available to help you. Even though the reported changes in the software read very good, we can only wait and see if the installed result is going to jump us ahead of the "happy unicorn tears" version. Not sure but I think "happy unicorn tears" version was a very limited edition.
    Just saw this after I already replied to OP. Agree on both counts! I think you nailed it very eloquently BB!

    PS. The Unicorn Tears version will appear magically and immediately for any Turbo owner that finally chooses to have realistic expectations, patience, and a positive attitude. This guarantee comes with a complimentary sparkly rainbow and lifetime supply of glitter.

    Sent Turbo-fast from my bulletproof 64GB Droid Turbo
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    11-05-2014 12:40 PM
  18. PowrDroid's Avatar
    PS. I think the wide variety of personal results is caused by the extreme variation in personal expectations. Unreasonable Expectations = A resentment waiting to happen. Which would explains all the loving/hating on these threads.
    No, I think if a person has had a variety of phones and they have all taken shots that weren't blurry, that is a reasonable expectation that their next phone will perform similarly. Then they get the Droid Turbo and virtually every shot is blurry, or the shutter lags, that is an unreasonable expectation and a phone not performing adequately.
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    11-05-2014 12:48 PM
  19. Firedogee's Avatar
    No, I think if a person has had a variety of phones and they have all taken shots that weren't blurry, that is a reasonable expectation. Then they get the Droid Turbo and virtually every shot is blurry, or the shutter lags, that is an unreasonable expectation and a phone not performing adequately.
    Maybe, but there are so many people that ARE happy with how the camera/phone performs. Including expert reviewers.

    Sent Turbo-fast from my bulletproof 64GB Droid Turbo
    11-05-2014 12:50 PM
  20. Clocks's Avatar
    Maybe, but there are so many people that ARE happy with how the camera/phone performs. Including expert reviewers.

    Sent Turbo-fast from my bulletproof 64GB Droid Turbo
    It seems like the expert reviewers take still shots, which is great if you want to pick apart things I don't really see and don't have a strong opinion on.

    I want a reviewer to build a handheld mount that will hold and fire off 6 phones at once and follow their kid around the house with all of the lights on and windows open. My turbo falls flat on its face in that scenario while my other phones haven't been great either, but have been at least usable.
    11-05-2014 12:54 PM
  21. ancientdroid's Avatar
    Does this "slight pause" vary with the lighting conditions? That is, if there is bright sunlight there is an almost instantaneous shot, but if there is low light and you are not using the flash there is a delay?
    The slight pause is always there for me and is honestly my only disappointment with this phone so far. But I'm confident this will be resolved when Lollipop arrives.

    As an example, if I go outside now in natural light and hold my hand up in front of the camera, press the screen to take a pic, then subsequently move my hand, the picture taken will not include my hand in the shot. That is quite the delay. And its not like I'm moving my hand suddenly either. This is with HDR off.

    I do notice that with the flash on in lower light shots there is more of a delay but that still doesn't explain the delay in natural light. Either way it is something that needs to be addressed but not something that is going to make me return the phone.
    11-05-2014 01:00 PM
  22. Wobblin30's Avatar
    It seems like the expert reviewers take still shots, which is great if you want to pick apart things I don't really see and don't have a strong opinion on.

    I want a reviewer to build a handheld mount that will hold and fire off 6 phones at once and follow their kid around the house with all of the lights on and windows open. My turbo falls flat on its face in that scenario while my other phones haven't been great either, but have been at least usable.
    Lack of OIS is clearly a downfall with this camera
    11-05-2014 01:01 PM
  23. ancientdroid's Avatar
    One last comment on this. The shutter in the below photo was pressed at the exact same time on my droid turbo and my 2014 moto x.

    Neither one belongs in a magazine, but my dog was able to sit up before the photo was taken on the turbo.

    I'm really hoping android L resolves this.

    /edit - HDR off on both cameras, and before i pressed the shutter on either i let both phones pre-focus on the dog.

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    That is my exact experience so far as well. And we have two Turbos in the house of which display the same behavior.
    11-05-2014 01:02 PM
  24. wolf_walker's Avatar
    Search youtube for "Motorola Droid Turbo Camera Speed"
    Faster than my s4 looks like. If FedEx ever get's it's stuff together I'll find out for myself.
    11-05-2014 01:02 PM
  25. ancientdroid's Avatar
    Search youtube for "Motorola Droid Turbo Camera Speed"
    Faster than my s4 looks like. If FedEx ever get's it's stuff together I'll find out for myself.
    Just watched the video. The two devices I have are slower then that. I'll see if I can post a video to YouTube later this afternoon.
    11-05-2014 01:06 PM
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