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  1. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Not being a phone geek, I guess I don't understand the obsession with getting LP. My Turbo that's running 4.4.4 is pretty rock solid as it relates to what I do. Who the shell wants a buggy software released that will cause issues?
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    03-08-2015 06:54 PM
  2. GreenghostUvln's Avatar
    Not being a phone geek, I guess I don't understand the obsession with getting LP. My Turbo that's running 4.4.4 is pretty rock solid as it relates to what I do. Who the shell wants a buggy software released that will cause issues?
    Because 95% of the time those issues arise because of people who don't factory reset after the update.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    03-08-2015 07:56 PM
  3. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Because 95% of the time those issues arise because of people who don't factory reset after the update.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    Why in the world would anyone want to perform a factory reset, especially on this phone, without root. I've never heard that doing a complete wipe was part of the upgrade process. Does Verizon/Motorola document this as a step that's required?
    03-09-2015 06:50 AM
  4. mimsiesboy's Avatar
    Why in the world would anyone want to perform a factory reset, especially on this phone, without root. I've never heard that doing a complete wipe was part of the upgrade process. Does Verizon/Motorola document this as a step that's required?
    Because it runs so much better. I believe it's called a Clean install.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-09-2015 07:33 AM
  5. doogald's Avatar
    Why in the world would anyone want to perform a factory reset, especially on this phone, without root. I've never heard that doing a complete wipe was part of the upgrade process. Does Verizon/Motorola document this as a step that's required?
    No, but this had been a long time rule of thumb for major android updates. The oems prepare in place OTA updates that allows you to run without a factory data reset but I've always, always planned to do one, and I've always found that my phone is somehow buggy after am update until I do one.

    This goes for ios devices, too. My last two major updates on my iPad always were buggy until I did a reset and restore. Credit to Apple for creating a great restore process for ios. I think android will have this going forward from Lollipop.
    03-09-2015 09:12 AM
  6. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Thanks. I have no desire to perform a factory reset on my Turbo. Just too much damn work getting this setup back to the way is was. I'll keep my fingers crossed that LP is still quite some time off for the Turbo and that I can delay the upgrade for some period of time.

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
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    03-09-2015 11:01 AM
  7. Davidoo's Avatar
    I agree it is crazy to have to do a factory reset just for an update. I use my phone for work and have several apps such as Touchdown for email and RSA secure id that would require my IT department to help me reinstall. This, plus getting all my other settings back could take days. I've never done a reset on any of my devices and never had problems. I also don't put a ton of apps on my phone as I think that causes most of the problems.
    03-09-2015 11:38 AM
  8. MattRevs's Avatar
    Ok, so I'm sure I'm not the first one to find this, and I'm sure there's probably another thread, but its about the Moto Turbo release in India.
    Along with a basic description, the news also hints that Motorola has possibly already finished Lollipop for the turbo.

    Here's an excerpt from the post:

    "The device will come with Android 5.0 Lollipop out of the box, and both Ballistic Nylon and Kevlar Fiber versions will be available for purchase in India."

    Looks like overseas Motorola/Verizon is way ahead of their game. What's going on in the US?

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    03-09-2015 12:12 PM
  9. MattRevs's Avatar
    Because 95% of the time those issues arise because of people who don't factory reset after the update.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    Assuming they backed up everything on the device beforehand ... right?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-09-2015 12:20 PM
  10. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Assuming they backed up everything on the device beforehand ... right?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Backup or not, doing a full factory reset on any un-rooted device is going to be a pain and hours getting things back to where you started.

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    03-09-2015 01:57 PM
  11. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Backup or not, doing a full factory reset on any un-rooted device is going to be a pain and hours getting things back to where you started.

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    I must be lucky or fast because a factory reset and full setup takes me under an hour. Not making light of the situation but as I said guess I'm lucky!
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    03-09-2015 02:11 PM
  12. irishlak's Avatar
    Who needs lollipop when you can have 20 % battery left and 6 apps opened and pull off this benchmark on antutu Droid Turbo: Lollipop software update?-4759.jpg

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-09-2015 02:33 PM
  13. irishlak's Avatar
    Oh and yeah I recommend a full reset of the device after a major update, it allows your device to properly sync all apps and programs 100% thus improving the over all performance of the phone. Plus any apps that need to be updated but have not been updated because the google play market says they are up to date will update giving you a better experience. Remember your runtime will be ART so apps may misbehave.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-09-2015 02:39 PM
  14. irishlak's Avatar
    Oh and one more thing lol I hate doing it too it is a pain in the **** to reset the device and watch hockey at the same time.

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    03-09-2015 02:42 PM
  15. irishlak's Avatar
    It is a good sign that India is getting to test out lollipop , reports are saying that lollipop is being sent out by moto to a small group of moto turbo users . we in the united states may not have to deal with a soak test , all the bugs will get worked out in India then it should get pushed to american users. At least we don't have to be the lab rats.
    03-09-2015 02:48 PM
  16. KSDroid01's Avatar
    Oh and yeah I recommend a full reset of the device after a major update, it allows your device to properly sync all apps and programs 100% thus improving the over all performance of the phone. Plus any apps that need to be updated but have not been updated because the google play market says they are up to date will update giving you a better experience. Remember your runtime will be ART so apps may misbehave.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I understand the risks of not doing a reset with a major update but I have a number of apps I refuse to update, due to either increased permissions or performance problems in newer versions and I absolutely hate having to choose to either stop using an app or to accept unwanted permissions/performance issues. If there's a simple way to install older versions of apps after a reset I'd like to hear about it.

    Posted via the Turbo
    03-09-2015 03:31 PM
  17. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Oh and one more thing lol I hate doing it too it is a pain in the **** to reset the device and watch hockey at the same time.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Go Blackhawks but its tough I agree.
    03-09-2015 03:38 PM
  18. GreenghostUvln's Avatar
    Backup or not, doing a full factory reset on any un-rooted device is going to be a pain and hours getting things back to where you started.

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    Why is it taking u people hours to set your phones back up?? When I rooted and flashed LP I had my phone back to normal in about 20 minutes lol. And I have over 150 apps.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    03-09-2015 03:52 PM
  19. GreenghostUvln's Avatar
    I understand the risks of not doing a reset with a major update but I have a number of apps I refuse to update, due to either increased permissions or performance problems in newer versions and I absolutely hate having to choose to either stop using an app or to accept unwanted permissions/performance issues. Of there's a simple way to install older versions of apps after a reset I'd like to hear about it.

    Posted via the Turbo
    Google the apk and the version of it. 99% of the time somebody saved it. I just downloaded the app global outbreak and I got the version I had on my old LG escape from two years ago lol.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    03-09-2015 03:56 PM
  20. Symthic's Avatar
    Reset after an update? Whatever benefits that brings won't be worth losing all my data.
    03-09-2015 04:02 PM
  21. doogald's Avatar
    My phone is set up in a way that backs up important folders to Dropbox as I use the phone so if I lose it or have to factory reset I can be back running all of my apps with my data in about an hour. Just from a disaster recovery point of view this is important to me.
    03-09-2015 04:54 PM
  22. Davidoo's Avatar
    Why is it taking u people hours to set your phones back up?? When I rooted and flashed LP I had my phone back to normal in about 20 minutes lol. And I have over 150 apps.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    As I mentioned I use my phone for work and have several apps you can't just reinstall and a backup doesn't help as you have to get a "first time" user code anytime you reset. Plus I have 3 personal email accounts that seem to be finicky to set up again as I have to experiment with the ports and security settings each time to get them to work.
    Eclipse2K likes this.
    03-09-2015 04:55 PM
  23. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    My phone is set up in a way that backs up important folders to Dropbox as I use the phone so if I lose it or have to factory reset I can be back running all of my apps with my data in about an hour. Just from a disaster recovery point of view this is important to me.
    How are you backing up data without root?

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    03-09-2015 05:06 PM
  24. JJ Jones's Avatar
    Looks like 5.1 is heading out to Nexus devices shortly. This may be good news for us Turbo owners, as one of the added features was cross platform HD. I know it's wishful thinking, but maybe this is what vzw has been holding back from us for.
    Yeah, I know, wish in one hand, crap in the other.........

    Sent from my Ballistic Turbo
    03-09-2015 05:07 PM
  25. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Please educate me. What is it about LP that's making the masses so anxious about getting the update?

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    03-09-2015 05:17 PM
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