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  1. Bob Maida's Avatar
    Everyone wants the latest version of the toy

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-09-2015 05:34 PM
  2. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Everyone wants the latest version of the toy

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    So really, the only reason is because we're supposed to get the update and haven't as of yet.

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    03-09-2015 06:10 PM
  3. KSDroid01's Avatar
    How are you backing up data without root?

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    I'm not rooted but back up pretty much everything to Drive. All my pics back up automatically, Google Sheets and Docs live in Drive natively, all my texts (including attachments!) automatically backup to Drive every night (via SMS Backup and Restore), my task list (Task Free) syncs to Google Tasks which is automatically backed up, MyTracks automatically backs up my gps tracks, and several apps (aCar for example) let me backup to Drive manually (via push of a button, not drag and drop).

    Oops - obligatory apology for going off on a tangent!

    Posted via the Turbo
    03-09-2015 06:52 PM
  4. doogald's Avatar
    How are you backing up data without root?

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    I'll clarify - backing up data that is written to storage, like BeyondPod, my custom ringtones, settings for various apps that i use, including my launcher. If it's written to storage, I back it up to Dropbox. Everything else uses cloud stored data anyway.

    I'd go into it more but don't want to anger all of the people who are upset that I'm not talking about the lollipop update in this thread...
    03-09-2015 06:53 PM
  5. KSDroid01's Avatar
    Google the apk and the version of it. 99% of the time somebody saved it. I just downloaded the app global outbreak and I got the version I had on my old LG escape from two years ago lol.

    Sent from my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 rockin 5.0.1
    That sounds workable but tedious - I just counted and currently have 12 apps on my pending update list for the various reasons I mentioned above... it would take me a good bit of time to chase down all those apk's and sideload them!

    Posted via the Turbo
    03-09-2015 07:06 PM
  6. Billy Bixby's Avatar
    The verizon cloud will not back up my contacts.... No idea why. That is the only thing that will suck for me... Manually entering hundreds of contacts.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    03-09-2015 07:48 PM
  7. asbarrett's Avatar
    The better question is, why arn't your contacts synced with your google account?
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    03-09-2015 08:11 PM
  8. irishlak's Avatar
    Hmmm I seem to remember saying 5.1 was going to be the final product,followed shortly with a stay on the subject post in reply lol . I told you so na na na na lmao Verizon you may now update my turbo.

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    03-09-2015 08:25 PM
  9. ReverendOD's Avatar
    A friend just got 5.0 on her Galaxy S5 today
    03-09-2015 11:27 PM
  10. dungoyle's Avatar
    That sounds workable but tedious - I just counted and currently have 12 apps on my pending update list for the various reasons I mentioned above... it would take me a good bit of time to chase down all those apk's and sideload them!

    Posted via the Turbo
    If you have a specific version of an application that you want to keep, and not replace with a newer version from the Play store, you can create your own apk file using ES File Explorer (an application that everyone should have anyway). In addition to being able to view the files on your phone, ES File Explorer has an "Application" button. Select it, and it will list all of your installed applications. Long press on any application, select "Backup", and it will create an apk on your phone. Location: /sd/backup/apps. Now you have an apk you can use to side load the application to another android device, and you can store on the cloud if you wish. This is a pretty convenient solution to your described situation as I am understanding it, and not very time consuming or complicated.

    Reinstalling things like RSA software does require that you have your original information provided by your IT Team. If you saved you corporate e-mail with the instructions, you shoud have everything you need to get it back up and running. It's simply a matter of reinstalling the software, then opening a special seed file that you were provided with initially (usually via link). If you don't have it, you can always ask for it -- even if you AREN'T going to reset your phone, if you don't have this information, you should get it because your phone could become lost, broken, or you may have technical problems that FORCE you to factory reset. By being proactive, you have this information, whether or not you intend to factory reset after the LP upgrade or any other time.

    If you use Apex or Nova as an alternative Launcher, you can back up your desktop and page layouts, so they can be restored after a factory reset, fairly painlessly.

    Getting all of your mail accounts playing nice with each other is a whole 'nuther story. Yeah, that can be pain in the arse, and not only that, but setting it up again from scratch in LP may be an even bigger headache than when you did it in KK (or easier -- but I doubt it).

    This isn't a post trying to twist your arm into "joining" those of us who always factory reset after a major OS update, but I did want you to know you have options, and that some of the road blocks may not be as difficult to surmount as you initially think. Planning in advance helps too <wink!>.
    03-10-2015 05:42 AM
  11. chidoro42's Avatar
    Thanks. I have no desire to perform a factory reset on my Turbo. Just too much damn work getting this setup back to the way is was. I'll keep my fingers crossed that LP is still quite some time off for the Turbo and that I can delay the upgrade for some period of time.

    Sent from my Droid Turbo 64-gig from Tapatalk.
    Couldn't agree more. I'll keep my rock solid 4.4 thank you very much. I can only see the downsides of getting it. "latest" w/out any useful functionality but plenty of bugs is a big pass in my book
    03-10-2015 06:37 AM
  12. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Based on my Nexus 7 with Lollipop, I see no real advantage. My Turbo is the most perfect phone I've ever owned and runs flawlessly. If 5.xx never comes it wouldn't bother me one whit. I love upgrades as much as anyone but as operating systems evolve, changes become more subtle. IMHO, most (perhaps not all) of the benefits of Lollipop is primarily "eye candy". As long as the phone runs equal to or better than 4.4.4, bring it on. If not, they can keep it.
    Which it's supposed to, and I'm with you on that being my primary interest in it. Not much by way of the new features thrills me, and we already have the better version of active notifications with Moto's version.

    Smoother and faster is always good, but I have no complaints with the Turbo currently.

    Better battery life is always good, and I do feel like my battery life isn't maximized. It's better than my Droid Maxx was, but not enough better. Small quibble.

    I want the camera to be as good as it should be. It's worse than my Droid Maxx by far in less than ideal circumstances (in which my Maxx gave me usable, even if not gallery worthy pics). Very frustrating. I took what I was getting using my Maxx and looked at the specs for the Turbo camera and figured, "sweet, this should be a noticable upgrade!" It's actually a noticable downgrade in a lot of situations. The Turbo takes great, noticably better pics than the Maxx when conditions are ideal. That doesn't happen often. I do still think this can be fixed via software. I know the camera app is a standalone in Play Storte, but promised advancements in Lollipop suggest to me the camera may be improved by the OS, too.

    I'm up to here with the term "Material Design" and it's seemingly bong induced descriptions. "It's like pen and paper." What??? More basically, I like dark themes on everything I can get them on, and Lollipop is going 180 degrees the wrong way for my tastes.

    It's coming eventually, so I'd just as soon have it and start getting used to it.
    03-10-2015 09:06 AM
  13. paintdrinkingpete's Avatar
    I'm not rooted but back up pretty much everything to Drive. All my pics back up automatically, Google Sheets and Docs live in Drive natively, all my texts (including attachments!) automatically backup to Drive every night (via SMS Backup and Restore), my task list (Task Free) syncs to Google Tasks which is automatically backed up, MyTracks automatically backs up my gps tracks, and several apps (aCar for example) let me backup to Drive manually (via push of a button, not drag and drop).

    Oops - obligatory apology for going off on a tangent!

    Posted via the Turbo
    I'll clarify - backing up data that is written to storage, like BeyondPod, my custom ringtones, settings for various apps that i use, including my launcher. If it's written to storage, I back it up to Dropbox. Everything else uses cloud stored data anyway.

    I'd go into it more but don't want to anger all of the people who are upset that I'm not talking about the lollipop update in this thread...
    I don't necessarily think it's off topic or a tangent when the questions arise because of concerns people have about upgrading in the first place.

    Another tip, if you use a 3rd party launcher, like Nova, you can also easily backup your desktop configs, which to me is one of the more tedious things to have to restore manually.

    Personally, I've been looking forward to being able to use the "phone unlock" feature with my Chromebook, but it only works with 5.0+ devices...so I'm still patiently waiting...
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    03-10-2015 09:41 AM
  14. Davidoo's Avatar

    Reinstalling things like RSA software does require that you have your original information provided by your IT Team. If you saved you corporate e-mail with the instructions, you shoud have everything you need to get it back up and running. It's simply a matter of reinstalling the software, then opening a special seed file that you were provided with initially (usually via link). If you don't have it, you can always ask for it -- even if you AREN'T going to reset your phone, if you don't have this information, you should get it because your phone could become lost, broken, or you may have technical problems that FORCE you to factory reset. By being proactive, you have this information, whether or not you intend to factory reset after the LP upgrade or any other time.
    FYI...At least for my company, the first time use code for apps such as RSA and Touchdown are only good for 24 hours. You can't ever reuse those codes again later. With that said I'm sure the reset may not be as horrible as I think, but still a big pain to reset all this stuff up.
    03-10-2015 11:18 AM
  15. cooper_m22's Avatar
    My sons HTC M8 that's on version just got lollipop. 5.0 today.

    from Droid Turbo
    03-10-2015 11:28 AM
  16. dungoyle's Avatar
    FYI...At least for my company, the first time use code for apps such as RSA and Touchdown are only good for 24 hours. You can't ever reuse those codes again later. With that said I'm sure the reset may not be as horrible as I think, but still a big pain to reset all this stuff up.
    Interesting. That must be company configurable based on security policies of the particular company.
    03-10-2015 11:33 AM
  17. sharkita's Avatar
    I'll clarify - backing up data that is written to storage, like BeyondPod, my custom ringtones, settings for various apps that i use, including my launcher. If it's written to storage, I back it up to Dropbox. Everything else uses cloud stored data anyway.

    I'd go into it more but don't want to anger all of the people who are upset that I'm not talking about the lollipop update in this thread...
    Au contraire, I think your backup tips are very helpful for those reluctant to do a factory reset after getting Lollipop. I'm in the camp that believes a factory reset is incredibly helpful after a major update, and it seems like the vast majority of folks who have Lollipop and are quite happy with it did a reset afterward.
    03-10-2015 12:54 PM
  18. Clocks's Avatar
    Which it's supposed to, and I'm with you on that being my primary interest in it. Not much by way of the new features thrills me, and we already have the better version of active notifications with Moto's version.

    Smoother and faster is always good, but I have no complaints with the Turbo currently.

    Better battery life is always good, and I do feel like my battery life isn't maximized. It's better than my Droid Maxx was, but not enough better. Small quibble.

    I want the camera to be as good as it should be. It's worse than my Droid Maxx by far in less than ideal circumstances (in which my Maxx gave me usable, even if not gallery worthy pics). Very frustrating. I took what I was getting using my Maxx and looked at the specs for the Turbo camera and figured, "sweet, this should be a noticable upgrade!" It's actually a noticable downgrade in a lot of situations. The Turbo takes great, noticably better pics than the Maxx when conditions are ideal. That doesn't happen often. I do still think this can be fixed via software. I know the camera app is a standalone in Play Storte, but promised advancements in Lollipop suggest to me the camera may be improved by the OS, too.

    I'm up to here with the term "Material Design" and it's seemingly bong induced descriptions. "It's like pen and paper." What??? More basically, I like dark themes on everything I can get them on, and Lollipop is going 180 degrees the wrong way for my tastes.

    It's coming eventually, so I'd just as soon have it and start getting used to it.
    L had no improvements to the camera for the 2014 X. I wouldn't expect anything to change in the camera department for the Turbo. For whatever reason moto isnt taking advantage of any of the new L camera stuff. If they would just fix the shutter lag though it would go a long way.
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    03-10-2015 01:33 PM
  19. KSDroid01's Avatar
    If you have a specific version of an application that you want to keep, and not replace with a newer version from the Play store, you can create your own apk file using ES File Explorer (an application that everyone should have anyway). In addition to being able to view the files ion your phone, ES File Explorer has an "Application" button. Select it, and it will list all of your installed applications. Long press on any application, select "Backup", and it will create an apk on your phone. Location: /sd/backup/apps. Now you have an apk you can use to side load the application to another android device, and you can store on the cloud if you wish. This is a pretty convenient solution to your described situation as I am understanding it, and not very time consuming or complicated.

    <wink!>.
    I do have ES File Explorer and that is a FANTASTIC recommendation... thank you!

    Posted via the Turbo
    03-10-2015 02:20 PM
  20. KPMcClave's Avatar
    L had no improvements to the camera for the 2014 X. I wouldn't expect anything to change in the camera department for the Turbo. For whatever reason moto isnt taking advantage of any of the new L camera stuff. If they would just fix the shutter lag though it would go a long way.
    Exactly. I'm not asking for new features, I just want it to work at worst as well as the Droid Maxx did...and it's reasonable to expect it to be better. Now, the Maxx got a camera update after I'd had it a while, and that update did make a noticeable difference in my pictures quality. I guess it's something they have to fully re-learn each time.
    03-10-2015 02:21 PM
  21. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    If you have a specific version of an application that you want to keep, and not replace with a newer version from the Play store, you can create your own apk file using ES File Explorer (an application that everyone should have anyway). In addition to being able to view the files on your phone, ES File Explorer has an "Application" button. Select it, and it will list all of your installed applications. Long press on any application, select "Backup", and it will create an apk on your phone. Location: /sd/backup/apps. Now you have an apk you can use to side load the application to another android device, and you can store on the cloud if you wish. This is a pretty convenient solution to your described situation as I am understanding it, and not very time consuming or complicated.

    Reinstalling things like RSA software does require that you have your original information provided by your IT Team. If you saved you corporate e-mail with the instructions, you shoud have everything you need to get it back up and running. It's simply a matter of reinstalling the software, then opening a special seed file that you were provided with initially (usually via link). If you don't have it, you can always ask for it -- even if you AREN'T going to reset your phone, if you don't have this information, you should get it because your phone could become lost, broken, or you may have technical problems that FORCE you to factory reset. By being proactive, you have this information, whether or not you intend to factory reset after the LP upgrade or any other time.

    If you use Apex or Nova as an alternative Launcher, you can back up your desktop and page layouts, so they can be restored after a factory reset, fairly painlessly.

    Getting all of your mail accounts playing nice with each other is a whole 'nuther story. Yeah, that can be pain in the arse, and not only that, but setting it up again from scratch in LP may be an even bigger headache than when you did it in KK (or easier -- but I doubt it).

    This isn't a post trying to twist your arm into "joining" those of us who always factory reset after a major OS update, but I did want you to know you have options, and that some of the road blocks may not be as difficult to surmount as you initially think. Planning in advance helps too <wink!>.
    Thank you, this is very helpful. I have exactly that issue, and may be porting some "old" versions of software to a new phone tonight.
    03-11-2015 06:13 AM
  22. Masheen's Avatar
    My sons HTC M8 that's on version just got lollipop. 5.0 today.

    from Droid Turbo
    Yeah well M8 and GS5 will be lucky if they see 5.1 before summer, if at all. They're basically EOL with 5.0
    03-11-2015 07:03 AM
  23. dangerwilrobinson's Avatar
    When are we getting this update?????
    03-11-2015 03:51 PM
  24. philly's Avatar
    yea it sucks. I don't know why they can't give an update as to why it is taking so long. they don't have to even give an eta but just a reason and a small update. I don't care if that reason is as generic as "we are having technical trouble" I still wanna hear it. Hopefully the reason is they are moving to 5.1
    03-11-2015 04:24 PM
  25. irishlak's Avatar
    I went over to the Motorola page that shows you the devices that are getting lollipop. I noticed something different that struck me as positive. It used to say that this device will by updated to 5.0 lollipop pending partner support. It now says android 5 lollipop, I think we will see 5.1 I'm hoping that is a good sign.

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    03-11-2015 05:03 PM
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