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  1. deesugar's Avatar
    They should just post every week "still working on it".

    ..but that wouldn't be enough.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    More like:
    "Don't have the time, the money or staff to deal with this"
    "Plus everyone is fine with KitKat or doesn't know anything about updates (see "Droid Turbo: Lollipop software update?" forum)"
    06-09-2015 09:45 PM
  2. tony bag o donuts's Avatar
    Will it allow voice and data simultaneously? Can't stand that my note 2 can do this but the turbo can't without going through hoops.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-09-2015 09:47 PM
  3. Ry's Avatar
    More like:
    "Don't have the time, the money or staff to deal with this"
    "Plus everyone is fine with KitKat or doesn't know anything about updates (see "Droid Turbo: Lollipop software update?" forum)"
    Moto X, Moto G, Moto E all ahead of you. Wait your turn.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    06-09-2015 10:09 PM
  4. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Will it allow voice and data simultaneously? Can't stand that my note 2 can do this but the turbo can't without going through hoops.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    You can do that now and its really not "going through hoops" as you call it. They could have done multiple antennas, sure, but VoLTE is the future and present now. If they used a VoLTE antenna + an extra antenna to do as you want, the phone would go through much more battery and no one wants this.
    tony bag o donuts likes this.
    06-09-2015 10:15 PM
  5. tdizzel's Avatar
    So, these updates are actually important to more than those of us who read AC and other tech stuff.

    Just because your wife or friend or ten co-workers don't know what OS they have doesn't mean they don't care.
    No, not at all. What's important is that the phone does what they want it to do(or does what their friends phone can do). No one is gonna say "update my phone to Nutter Butter so I can play Clash of Clans 2: Beiber Babies Gone Bad" because they don't give a crap about updates or OSes. Their gonna say "My phone won't play Clash of Clans 2 but the iPhone does. I'm gonna buy an iPhone" They won't bug Verizon to update the OS, they'll just get a new phone. Because they care about what it does, not how it got there. Updates to an OS don't matter to very many, no matter how you try to spin it.
    hub1 likes this.
    06-09-2015 10:48 PM
  6. Dakotabaker98's Avatar
    Well anyone got lollipop yet????
    06-09-2015 11:18 PM
  7. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Not exactly. They don't care until they can't do something that their friends can do with their phones, otherwise, they don't care. The difference between those people and those on here is most here are proactive, they want to test out each new feature the updates bring and can't wait to try it out. The majority of people are reactive, the only time they worry about an update is when some new feature in an app they like won't work because their OS needs to be updated to make use of that new feature. I'd guarantee, if they didn't run into a situation like that, they'd never worry about updates.
    So, like I said, they care. They just don't sweat the reasons like we do. If they can do X on OS 2 and they can't on OS 1, and that matters to them, they absolutely care about their OS. In this case, that doesn't require they know what to call it or how it works. If they don't get that update to OS 2 they don't get to do what they want.

    And that's why it's important to have timely updates for more than just the supposed 1%.
    06-09-2015 11:27 PM
  8. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Agreed that the dark theme looks much better, but aren't the battery savings potentially quite significant when using AMOLED displays (but agreed, next to nothing with LED displays)?

    Posted via Android Central App
    There was a discussion aboutthis topic on the Turbo forums here not that long ago. It seems to boil down to battery savings with black screens on an AMOLED display saving battery over white screens on an AMOLED display. So, our Turbos will last longer with black screen and white font than the inverse. It appears that the difference between AMOLED and LCD is not what we may have thought. Because there is no difference in overall battery use between white and black on those screens, and the LCDs may in fact use a bit less power overall with identical use/color schemes on both types of screen.

    There were stats posted that illustrate that more specifically, but I think I've given you an accurate synopsis of them. They were several years old, so newer tech could have changed things, too.
    06-09-2015 11:35 PM
  9. KPMcClave's Avatar
    They should just post every week "still working on it".

    ..but that wouldn't be enough.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    It is, however, more than nothing.
    06-09-2015 11:37 PM
  10. KPMcClave's Avatar
    No, not at all. What's important is that the phone does what they want it to do(or does what their friends phone can do). No one is gonna say "update my phone to Nutter Butter so I can play Clash of Clans 2: Beiber Babies Gone Bad" because they don't give a crap about updates or OSes. Their gonna say "My phone won't play Clash of Clans 2 but the iPhone does. I'm gonna buy an iPhone" They won't bug Verizon to update the OS, they'll just get a new phone. Because they care about what it does, not how it got there. Updates to an OS don't matter to very many, no matter how you try to spin it.
    I'm not going to go 'round and 'round about this anymore, but if an OS update is required for what they want to do and can't, they care. That they may not know the proper terminology or what have you doesn't change that basic fact. There are people who genuinly do not care. A lot of them have flip phones.

    And that's why it's important to have timely updates for more than just the supposed 1%.
    06-09-2015 11:43 PM
  11. GeodudeFFP's Avatar
    There was a discussion aboutthis topic on the Turbo forums here not that long ago. It seems to boil down to battery savings with black screens on an AMOLED display saving battery over white screens on an AMOLED display. So, our Turbos will last longer with black screen and white font than the inverse. It appears that the difference between AMOLED and LCD is not what we may have thought. Because there is no difference in overall battery use between white and black on those screens, and the LCDs may in fact use a bit less power overall with identical use/color schemes on both types of screen.

    There were stats posted that illustrate that more specifically, but I think I've given you an accurate synopsis of them. They were several years old, so newer tech could have changed things, too.
    Interesting...I thought the savings were significantly greater with an AMOLED screen. But I have to admit I'd stick with a dark theme even if there were no battery savings, since it looks a heck of a lot "better" to me.

    Posted via Android Central App
    06-10-2015 01:45 AM
  12. vzwuser76's Avatar
    So, like I said, they care. They just don't sweat the reasons like we do. If they can do X on OS 2 and they can't on OS 1, and that matters to them, they absolutely care about their OS. In this case, that doesn't require they know what to call it or how it works. If they don't get that update to OS 2 they don't get to do what they want.

    And that's why it's important to have timely updates for more than just the supposed 1%.
    According to your way of thinking, everyone cares about everything, but just not until it affects them, right? So if it doesn't affect them or impair their use of their phone, they won't care, right?

    I just don't see why you seem to think that everyone cares about this. The majority of people are idiots, and should probably be on nothing more than a flip phone, but since everyone else has one, they figure they should as well.

    You guys keep bringing up this notion that anyone who isn't outraged by this doesn't think updates are important, which is patently false. Some updates are vital, but not everyone is. I also resent this notion that because I'm not taking Verizon or Motorola to task on this, that we're giving them a free pass. What you keep failing to realize is that we could get every forum member to contact them and it would be a drop in the bucket compared to their total customer base. And unless you see something like this on the national news, no one outside of these and other forums will consider it a big deal.

    But as usual, I and others who are OK waiting for the update just don't get it, so this BS will continue in a causality loop until the fricken update is released. At this point I'm about ready to go back to a flip phone.
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    06-10-2015 02:00 AM
  13. 88horizon5speed's Avatar
    Not here, I pressed the check for updates button 10 times to try and force it if it is there. I have a question, as optimistic as I am and hopeful that it will arrive today; who is that Android police writer who originally announced that. Is there any legitamatability in what he says at all? It would be really annoying if he just pulled it out of nowhere to keep feeding us. Kind of how many news sites for months now have kept writing articles that have a title that sounds promising and then only to write in the article they have no new information. THAT bugs me.
    06-10-2015 05:14 AM
  14. doogald's Avatar
    Not here, I pressed the check for updates button 10 times to try and force it if it is there.
    You only have to check for updates once a day. The request is cached so every other time after the once is just going to show the same result, even if the update is magically ready for you (it's not - I believe that they release them for your phone sometime between midnight and 3 am.)

    Remember that updates are staged to a few phones at a time the first day or two, so on the off chance that the update is really being distributed today, it's more likely than not that your phone will not see it the first few days.
    06-10-2015 05:28 AM
  15. Ch4dders's Avatar
    No such luck for me...

    Posted from 64GB BN Droid Turbo
    06-10-2015 05:43 AM
  16. antk90's Avatar
    How's that lollipop update working out?
    06-10-2015 06:21 AM
  17. KPMcClave's Avatar
    According to your way of thinking, everyone cares about everything, but just not until it affects them, right? So if it doesn't affect them or impair their use of their phone, they won't care, right?

    I just don't see why you seem to think that everyone cares about this. The majority of people are idiots, and should probably be on nothing more than a flip phone, but since everyone else has one, they figure they should as well.

    You guys keep bringing up this notion that anyone who isn't outraged by this doesn't think updates are important, which is patently false. Some updates are vital, but not everyone is. I also resent this notion that because I'm not taking Verizon or Motorola to task on this, that we're giving them a free pass. What you keep failing to realize is that we could get every forum member to contact them and it would be a drop in the bucket compared to their total customer base. And unless you see something like this on the national news, no one outside of these and other forums will consider it a big deal.

    But as usual, I and others who are OK waiting for the update just don't get it, so this BS will continue in a causality loop until the fricken update is released. At this point I'm about ready to go back to a flip phone.
    I didn't say anything about my own personal opinion about the update. I commented on the general belief that because the obvious interest level is small, the importance is equally as small (because people float that a lot).That you think I am, or think I believe anyone else should be, "outraged" is funny. Then again, honest, shades-of-grey discussion isn't a strong point in tech world, so...
    06-10-2015 06:28 AM
  18. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Interesting...I thought the savings were significantly greater with an AMOLED screen. But I have to admit I'd stick with a dark theme even if there were no battery savings, since it looks a heck of a lot "better" to me.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Yep, I'd stick with a dark theme on aesthetics alone, too. Like you, I thought AMOLED saved much more than they apparently do with white on black.. They do compared to themselves, but not as I'd thought compared to LCDs. LCDs use the same amount of energy for lights and darks, but that is a lower level than has seemed to have been suggsted when the advantages of AMOLEDs and dark themes, etc. are mentioned.
    06-10-2015 06:34 AM
  19. gemery#CB's Avatar
    What time zone do they consider midnight?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-10-2015 06:34 AM
  20. KPMcClave's Avatar
    What time zone do they consider midnight?
    Tomorrow.
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    06-10-2015 06:49 AM
  21. doogald's Avatar
    What time zone do they consider midnight?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Rolling my eyes a little here. Verizon is a U.S. company, headquartered in NJ. Motorola headquarters are in Illinois. Midnight to 3 am (which was actually just a slight guess on my part based on past updates) is midnight in one of the time zones in the U.S. from Verizon's point of view. So, you know, I suppose it's possible that your phone could see the update 9 pm if you live on the west coast. Most updates I've received on Moto phones have hit between midnight and 6 am eastern time, though the last couple (both minor updates, to fix volte and emergency dialing) I've had to go to check updates to actually start the download.

    (It's possible that the phone resets checking at midnight your local time.)

    Check once a day. If it says the phone is up to date, check again tomorrow. (Don't get your hopes up too high.)
    06-10-2015 06:55 AM
  22. 1Coopgt's Avatar
    (link removed by sender) is reporting that we'll get 5.1.1.
    When ? Proof ? ROFL
    06-10-2015 07:07 AM
  23. berserker's Avatar
    When ? Proof ? ROFL
    Techworm said starting today we'd get 5.1.1.
    06-10-2015 07:17 AM
  24. joe_fresh's Avatar
    Many articles I've read say not all of the users should expect it on the 10th. But in the short future. But I think I read that on the Onion.

    Posted via Android Central App nexus 7
    06-10-2015 07:24 AM
  25. ChuckG73's Avatar
    Verizon is about to drop Lollipop for the Droid Turbo....hopefully before Android M gets released.
    06-10-2015 07:28 AM
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