11-19-2014 04:16 PM
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  1. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    I've been pretty underwhelmed by the screens on these phones. Not sure if its the glass or the coating over it, but its not the super screen they make it out to be. Could you imagine doing this to your phone!?!? I'm nervous just to have it in the vicinity of my keys.

    I could see several scratches on his display within the first couple minutes when the light hit. He quickly changed the angle though.

    I've been using a naked display with a Tech21 case but I'm going fully naked now and picking up a belt clip pouch. I don't ever drop my phone and if I do I have insurance. The display scratching is out of my control and I'll do this before mine shows them.

    Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo
    11-16-2014 04:48 PM
  2. Snareman's Avatar
    Yeah. I thought the same thing. He even kind of mentions the scratches at the end
    11-16-2014 04:49 PM
  3. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Yeah. I thought the same thing. He even kind of mentions the scratches at the end
    By the end of the video there are more scratches than I can even begin to count. The GG didn't stand up well other than it didn't crack.

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    11-16-2014 04:52 PM
  4. MA2GA28's Avatar
    In the end, GG is more scratch resistant than regular glass. Can it be scratched? Yes. Can keys and coins scratch it? No, they should not, as the hardness rating of of GG 3 is much higher than the brass, steel, or nickel that coins and keys are typically made from (6.7ish to 3-4.5). More than likely the scratches you see are from something else, such as sand, getting dragged across the screen. Even a small grain can cause a good gouge in the screen.

    Now, sapphire screens are a lot more resistant to scratches, but they are also extremely brittle. So, in the end, would you rather have a screen that rarely scratches but will shatter with very little force, or a screen that will be quite resistant to shattering but scratch from certain materials?

    Exactly.
    11-16-2014 09:12 PM
  5. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    In the end, GG is more scratch resistant than regular glass. Can it be scratched? Yes. Can keys and coins scratch it? No, they should not, as the hardness rating of of GG 3 is much higher than the brass, steel, or nickel that coins and keys are typically made from (6.7ish to 3-4.5). More than likely the scratches you see are from something else, such as sand, getting dragged across the screen. Even a small grain can cause a good gouge in the screen.

    Now, sapphire screens are a lot more resistant to scratches, but they are also extremely brittle. So, in the end, would you rather have a screen that rarely scratches but will shatter with very little force, or a screen that will be quite resistant to shattering but scratch from certain materials?

    Exactly.
    I'll take Sapphire since I never expose my phone to adverse conditions such as dropping. I can't do a thing about scratches except expensive screen protectors which I prefer not to use.

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    11-16-2014 09:14 PM
  6. Xelios's Avatar
    In the end, GG is more scratch resistant than regular glass. Can it be scratched? Yes. Can keys and coins scratch it? No, they should not, as the hardness rating of of GG 3 is much higher than the brass, steel, or nickel that coins and keys are typically made from (6.7ish to 3-4.5). More than likely the scratches you see are from something else, such as sand, getting dragged across the screen. Even a small grain can cause a good gouge in the screen.

    Now, sapphire screens are a lot more resistant to scratches, but they are also extremely brittle. So, in the end, would you rather have a screen that rarely scratches but will shatter with very little force, or a screen that will be quite resistant to shattering but scratch from certain materials?

    Exactly.
    Yup. I'll take GG over sapphire any day. My watch is made of sapphire and that thing has been through a lot, no scratches yet. However every time I bang it against something I cringe, despite having a very thick crystal on mine. Phones will stay thin and thin sapphire will be very brittle. I've been fortunate enough not to break my watch yet, but I've seen friends show off the "indestructibility" of sapphire and watch it fail catastrophically.
    11-16-2014 09:24 PM
  7. MA2GA28's Avatar
    I'll take Sapphire since I never expose my phone to adverse conditions such as dropping. I can't do a thing about scratches except expensive screen protectors which I prefer not to use.

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    That would be fine if dropping the phone was the concern with sapphire, but it is more brittle than even that. Many test show that it honestly takes very little force/impact to shatter a sapphire screen. Why do you think Apple has yet to convert to it on their iPhones? If it was better than GG, don't you think they'd use it?
    11-16-2014 10:59 PM
  8. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    That would be fine if dropping the phone was the concern with sapphire, but it is more brittle than even that. Many test show that it honestly takes very little force/impact to shatter a sapphire screen. Why do you think Apple has yet to convert to it on their iPhones? If it was better than GG, don't you think they'd use it?
    Maybe cost? And Apple was actually going to but the company couldn't meet the demand so they used glass. The company filed bankruptcy due to it.

    http://m.ibtimes.com/sapphire-glass-...logies-1703108

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    11-16-2014 11:21 PM
  9. MA2GA28's Avatar
    Maybe cost? And Apple was actually going to but the company couldn't meet the demand so they used glass. The company filed bankruptcy due to it.

    Sapphire Glass: How Did Apple Get It So Wrong With GT Advanced Technologies?

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    The article does say that there was a probable issue with quality, "with some speculating that GT couldn't actually meet Apple's quality standards..." That would tell me that maybe the fragility of the sapphire glass was an issue. The article does also say that the company had created a surface that is more scratch-resistant (very likely) and shatter resistant (very unlikely) than GG. But proven evidence shows that sapphire glass is and always has been more brittle than GG, so that could simply be an anecdotal assumption (with the company being bound by non-disclosure it could simply be a rumor, or a 'stretch' of the truth in that the company TOLD Apple they could make a less brittle sapphire glass then failed to do so).

    What also hasn't been mentioned is that the coating on GG also resists scratches, adding to the Mohs rating of the screen (I believe it ups it to 7.3 or around there). So, GG is actually more scratch resistant as long as the coating is intact (how long the coating lasts remains to be seen, but on my Razr Maxx the coating where I typically swiped my thumb on the screen wore away after a year or so...could easily be seen if I lightly wet the screen).

    In short, I don't think the article reveals all that much except postulating on different rumors. So, until I see a sapphire glass screen that is more impact-resistant and shatter-resistant than GG, my faith still lies in GG for its overall quality. I can deal with an errant scratch or two if it means my screen won't automatically break with a short drop.
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    11-17-2014 10:17 AM
  10. riccochet's Avatar
    Pretty sad if they do scratch that easily. My wife and I have been using SGS3's for over 2 years with no protectors and neither of our screens are scratched in the slightest. She's not gentle with her phone either, throwing it in a purse with god knows what rattling around in there.

    I may rethink upgrading to the Turbo since I don't like protectors. Especially the Zagg protectors. They feel too rubbery for my liking.
    11-17-2014 05:38 PM
  11. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Pretty sad if they do scratch that easily. My wife and I have been using SGS3's for over 2 years with no protectors and neither of our screens are scratched in the slightest. She's not gentle with her phone either, throwing it in a purse with god knows what rattling around in there.

    I may rethink upgrading to the Turbo since I don't like protectors. Especially the Zagg protectors. They feel too rubbery for my liking.
    It doesn't scratch any easier than other phones. I feel like we hear this every new phone launch and its never true. The issue is one of us gets unlucky and something that would scratch any display did so to the new phone. Luck of the draw but I'm with you in saying overall protectors detract even if its Tempered Glass. Those just are better than plastic.

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    11-17-2014 06:35 PM
  12. tvouge's Avatar
    Just got the Verizon tempered glass. I agree that usually screen protectors are horrible, but mine applied perfectly (no dust or bubbles!) and feels great swiping over.

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    11-17-2014 07:43 PM
  13. robertopod1968's Avatar
    Pretty sad if they do scratch that easily. My wife and I have been using SGS3's for over 2 years with no protectors and neither of our screens are scratched in the slightest. She's not gentle with her phone either, throwing it in a purse with god knows what rattling around in there.

    I may rethink upgrading to the Turbo since I don't like protectors. Especially the Zagg protectors. They feel too rubbery for my liking.
    I scratch every phone I get if I don't put on a protector. It's not just this phone. I'm not hard on them. I think it's the zippered pockets on my my jackets and such that I wear. I always put my phone in those pockets. That's the only thing I can guess.
    11-17-2014 09:31 PM
  14. jerrykur's Avatar
    OP, did you carry your note in the same pocket? Also, did you keys in you pocket. I scratched a phone just like you described wit my keys.

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    11-18-2014 08:51 AM
  15. ctenc001's Avatar
    OP, did you carry your note in the same pocket? Also, did you keys in you pocket. I scratched a phone just like you described wit my keys.

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    Both phones were carried in the same pocket, a pair of levi jeans.
    while I've attempted to keep my keys and phone separate since getting the turbo, they've ended up in the same pocket a few times. With the note I never cared, they were in the same pocket on a daily basis.

    The note had some minor lights scratches by the end of its two year run.. The Turbo already has a scratch deep enough that my fingernail gets caught in it if I rub it across the screen, and even since the OP its accumulated a couple light scratches. The note has nothing near this deep. There is probably just as many light scratches on my turbo now as their was on the note 2 at the end of its life cycle, plus the deep scratch.

    I've decided it must be a bad scratch resistant coating since no one else is having this problem.

    I babied it too much the first two weeks and did not realize it until I was out of my 14 day window (purchased on launch day), so I can't return it as far as I am aware.
    I'm just going to go with it, and eventually use my 1 free screen replacement sometime down the line when it gets too bad.
    11-18-2014 02:01 PM
  16. Masheen's Avatar
    I gave my phone to my aunt to look at some pictures. She had a diamond crusted ring on her right index finger. Scratched the screen when she swiped... I'm mad, but, I only can see it when the screen is off and the light shines a certain way. That's diamond, one of the hardest objects on earth. I do believe this screen is resistant to most other objects, such as coins, keys, and other metals.
    11-19-2014 11:47 AM
  17. Snareman's Avatar
    I gave my phone to my aunt to look at some pictures. She had a diamond crusted ring on her right index finger. Scratched the screen when she swiped... I'm mad, but, I only can see it when the screen is off and the light shines a certain way. That's diamond, one of the hardest objects on earth. I do believe this screen is resistant to most other objects, such as coins, keys, and other metals.
    You want to try and be nice since its family, but wow would I be upset.
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    11-19-2014 02:03 PM
  18. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    You want to try and be nice since its family, but wow would I be upset.
    This is why I never let anyone touch my phone.

    My aunt once was looking at my at the time 2 week old 2012 Acura TSX and her ring slid against the door. I heard it and freaked but thankfully no scratches.

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    11-19-2014 02:48 PM
  19. Snareman's Avatar
    This is why I never let anyone touch my phone.

    My aunt once was looking at my at the time 2 week old 2012 Acura TSX and her ring slid against the door. I heard it and freaked but thankfully no scratches.

    Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo
    I don't have anything overly personal like naked pictures or anything on my phone but I hate giving my phone to people with the idea that they are going to possibly look through it even accidentally by pressing buttons , looking through my email, etc. Your phone is just one of your personal things sort of like your computer
    11-19-2014 03:11 PM
  20. Masheen's Avatar
    You want to try and be nice since its family, but wow would I be upset.
    I'm not even going to say anything. Just treat it like a battle scar.

    This is why I never let anyone touch my phone.

    My aunt once was looking at my at the time 2 week old 2012 Acura TSX and her ring slid against the door. I heard it and freaked but thankfully no scratches.

    Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo
    I could only imagine...I just recently had a friend of mine apply CQuartz UK edition to my '13 Evo X. It's a clear layer of ceramic. It has to be prepped and applied. When it dries, you have a hard ceramic shell that withstand all sorts of things that would normally scratch the first layer. Also, dirt and bird crap come off with hose pressure. No scrubbing. I haven't actually washed my car in months, and it looks like I have fresh wax every day. Check this out, you can FF to 6:30 for the scratch test:
    11-19-2014 04:16 PM
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