11-26-2014 08:44 PM
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  1. Clocks's Avatar
    If the problem is slow shutter speed make sure you have HDR turned off, in order to compensate for uneven lighting and shadows it slows the shutter down, also HDR should NOT be used if your subject is moving or likely to move, makes for blurry pictures.
    That doesn't come close to fixing the shutter lag on the turbo.
    11-23-2014 04:56 PM
  2. smokie11's Avatar
    No, it just makes sure that you don't make it worse that's all.
    11-23-2014 06:25 PM
  3. Hgouck's Avatar
    I thought we bought a phone that has a camera not a camera that has the ability to communicate.
    I can see the comments now.
    "I can't you believe how slow this camera is at connecting my calls" or
    "my call clarify was better with my old camera "
    People are happy when they find something to complain about.
    On the positive side, how is your phone at communication?

    JMHO
    bradenfontaine likes this.
    11-23-2014 08:33 PM
  4. Snareman's Avatar
    I thought we bought a phone that has a camera not a camera that has the ability to communicate.
    I can see the comments now.
    "I can't you believe how slow this camera is at connecting my calls" or
    "my call clarify was better with my old camera "
    People are happy when they find something to complain about.
    On the positive side, how is your phone at communication?

    JMHO
    Well, as long as you ask... I can't hear people that well in the earpiece because its not loud enough. So it could do communication better.

    But anyway, these days its more that we have a multifunction device that happens to have one of its functions being a phone. At some point we are going to stop calling them phones because actually talking on them is becoming a progressively smaller % of what the device is actually used for. I have a 450min calling plan that I never go over. If my phone has average screen on time of 2-3h/day that's 3600-5400 minutes of device usage compared to less than 450min of 'phone' usage. See my point?
    11-24-2014 01:27 AM
  5. jamielov's Avatar
    I find it strange when others get upset with people who feel this camera isn't very good, which it is not good. Taking a picture of anything with even the slighest bit of movement is almost impossible, usually needing to snap 6 shots and hoping one is OK.

    The argument that....its a phone so be happy it even has a crappy camera is weak. If cameras were not an important part of the package, why would ever single cell phone (more or less) being released have a camera? Yes, sorry, but having a "working" camera really isn't good enough, and no, people wanting a nicely functioning one aren't spoiled or asking for too much.

    This camera sucks. It sucks that I can't even get an average picture of my dog slowly walking across a room because of shutter lag. For the few who feel this is silly complaining, I compare it to saying....this phone has apps. They all suck and dont function properly, and I can't make them work right. But its a phone so I should keep my mouth shut because im glad to even have these apps.
    Codger1212 likes this.
    11-24-2014 04:37 AM
  6. Hgouck's Avatar
    Well, as long as you ask... I can't hear people that well in the earpiece because its not loud enough. So it could do communication better.

    But anyway, these days its more that we have a multifunction device that happens to have one of its functions being a phone. At some point we are going to stop calling them phones because actually talking on them is becoming a progressively smaller % of what the device is actually used for. I have a 450min calling plan that I never go over. If my phone has average screen on time of 2-3h/day that's 3600-5400 minutes of device usage compared to less than 450min of 'phone' usage. See my point?
    I do see your point and please don't misunderstand me. Can and maybe should the phone have a better camara? Sure. Lets put the very best of everything into one device.Best reception, best screen, best battery, best camara, best GPS, best fuctions. the challenge is to keep a product at a competitive cost manufactures compromise. That is why there are so many choices. Find a device that has the "best" of what realy matters to you and buy it.
    Just to clarify, I don't own a Turbo because it does not have what I need in a phone. I tried it in the store, I read the opinions of people that had it, and decided to keep the device I already had because it did better at what was important to me.
    11-24-2014 05:37 AM
  7. doogald's Avatar
    I thought we bought a phone that has a camera not a camera that has the ability to communicate.
    Some people want both. And they can get it on other devices right now. And *should* be able to get it on the turbo. Motorola knew that the X and all of their past Droids had weak photography and it's head-scratching that they don't figure out how to fix it.

    It would be like selling a car with air conditioning that only cools the car by a few degrees. Any car maker with that problem might still sell cars, but they'd be losing a lot of sales to people who want better.
    jamielov likes this.
    11-24-2014 05:47 AM
  8. vzwuser76's Avatar
    I think one thing many are overlooking is that from the looks of things, this is a software issue. This is supposed to be a Sony sensor, and possibly the same one used in the Z3 from what people are saying. Before this they were stuck with it being a hardware issue, when they used Omnivision for their camera sensors. So maybe we see if they can work it out before cometely writing it off. And if some of you are one the fence or in the 14 day windows to return it, then return it and either go with something else or go back to your old device and wait for a resolution.
    Hgouck likes this.
    11-24-2014 10:17 AM
  9. tbgjlb's Avatar
    Perfection can be expensive, but from what I've seen this"phone" seems to have most/all of the top tech screen, snapdragon etc etc. Which to most seems perfectly usable apart from a camera that any movement spoils the picture which is a shame. So many people with families will find this a deal breaker ( myself included ). I'd rather a lesser phone and better camera, or Motorola to fix this issue then my choice would be so much easier.
    Hgouck likes this.
    11-24-2014 03:31 PM
  10. Snareman's Avatar
    Some of those top end features seem like they are there just for the point of being high end without the end user really being able to see the rewards. The 2 big ones that come to mind are the camera and screen. What's the point of a 21mp camera? You don't need that size pic on a phone because no one is going to blow them up and print them (especially from the camera on this phone). 10mp would have been way plenty, especially with an iPhone quality camera. But 21mp certainly sounds impressive. It was the same way with MP wars with DSLRs over the last bunch of years.

    The second is the screen. Can anyone really see the difference with the QHD display? I compared it to the 720p screen on my Maxx and really can't tell the difference. 1080p would have been way plenty. But again, QHD wins the screen resolution wars. Give me 1080 and better battery life.

    Both of these specs probably help sell phones to the masses though.
    Hgouck and mobrules like this.
    11-24-2014 03:43 PM
  11. mobrules's Avatar
    The second is the screen. Can anyone really see the difference with the QHD display? I compared it to the 720p screen on my Maxx and really can't tell the difference. 1080p would have been way plenty. But again, QHD wins the screen resolution wars. Give me 1080 and better battery life.
    I agree. I compared my Turbo on full brightness next to an S5 yesterday. Both devices started playing the same movie from netflix at the same time. I couldnt tell a difference at all. They could have gone 1080 and it would not have made a difference at all.
    11-24-2014 04:06 PM
  12. Snareman's Avatar
    With a 1080p screen they might have even been able to tout the phone as a 3 day battery.
    11-24-2014 04:08 PM
  13. vzwuser76's Avatar
    While I mostly agree, you'd be better off starting out with a large image and shrinking/compressing it, rather than enlarging a smaller one or even leaving it the same. At least that's what I've seen when downloading ultra HD pics. Reducing the size to just fill the screen has much more definition than even one that takes an image the same size as the screen, as least in my experience.
    BlueBlazer60 likes this.
    11-24-2014 05:06 PM
  14. Snareman's Avatar
    Yes, I agree. But instead of giving us a camera that gives good (well, mediocre) picture quality by shrinking it why not just give us a great quality shooter that can just leave the pictures as is? The iPhone6 comes to mind. 8mp, OIS, etc. Great camera. 8mp is plenty fine for a cell phone camera.
    11-25-2014 09:09 PM
  15. hal1's Avatar
    people are saying that it's a lot to ask one phone to do everything great and that I understand, but it's disappointing that this camera is so average (or below) in comparison to everything else
    11-26-2014 08:44 PM
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