06-28-2015 04:00 AM
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  1. jamielov's Avatar
    Depending on the situation you are trying to photograph, it typically will require some forethought to get a good picture. Unless it is a nicely lit scene with (mostly) stationary objects you will have to plan your shots.

    It's not just the Turbo camera, it's almost all cell phone cameras. Apple is ahead of everyone, so is Nokia. Samsung makes better shooters than Moto.

    If it's only the Moto phone's cameras, how do you explain the numerous threads in other phone forums complaining about the exact same issues that you have?

    Conversely, why do I have a high rate of success with my Turbo's photos?
    I am not sure why your Turbo photos are so successful. You seem to give me every indication why any of the various types of shots I mention will fail, so I can only guess much like the constant apologists on here, you only take stationary shots? Because any other type of shot I want to take you tell me it will not work. Maybe instead of me having a faulty camera, you have the magical one that takes all the amazing pictures, while I struggle under any conditions to get a usable photo of anything at all in motion.

    It would be one thing if I was in here bashing motorola and all their devices and phones, but I am not. I have used almost every incarnation of the droid. This one is hands down an awful camera. You can spin it any way you like, you can compare it to other forums complaining...but the truth is the shutter speed is painfully lacking. It just is. I dont want or need award winning photos. I also dont want to carry around a separate camera. I simply want a camera that works. As moto promised..."you wont miss any of the action with this powerhouse camera!" I didnt make that up. Im not selectively choosing words. That is what it is, and that is why I am so bothered by this and would like it fixed. Other recommended solutions were using photo burst and deleting the 9 bad photos from the 10 it takes. Again, this shouldnt be this complicated to get a good photo.
    01-27-2015 03:23 PM
  2. PowrDroid's Avatar
    That was taken with my Maxx at a Pens game. Managed to point and shoot and not have any issues with the stationary players or the ones in motion in the same shot.
    Nice seats! Why did you post a screenshot grab of a photo?
    01-27-2015 03:30 PM
  3. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I am not sure why your Turbo photos are so successful. You seem to give me every indication why any of the various types of shots I mention will fail, so I can only guess much like the constant apologists on here, you only take stationary shots? Because any other type of shot I want to take you tell me it will not work. Maybe instead of me having a faulty camera, you have the magical one that takes all the amazing pictures, while I struggle under any conditions to get a usable photo of anything at all in motion.
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...ml#post4108902

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...ml#post4108426

    It would be one thing if I was in here bashing motorola and all their devices and phones, but I am not. I have used almost every incarnation of the droid. This one is hands down an awful camera.
    My two previous phones were Droid 2 Global (camera was fair); Maxx HD (camera was OK to good)

    You can spin it any way you like, you can compare it to other forums complaining...but the truth is the shutter speed is painfully lacking. It just is.
    Yep, the shutter has lag on the Turbo's camera.
    01-27-2015 03:38 PM
  4. jamielov's Avatar
    Nice seats! Why did you post a screenshot grab of a photo?
    Because as I stated, that was taken with my Maxx. So I had to go onto my facebook page, take a screen shot of it with my phone, and repost it. I also have a screen grab from TV of my wife and I in those seats at the game if you need me to verify that the picture was actually taken by me, with my Maxx. But again, as I will reluctantly continue to say, just another example how amazing the photos I was able to get with my Maxx vs the garbage with the turbo.
    01-27-2015 03:38 PM
  5. jerrykur's Avatar
    Nope. This is essentially a person standing in front of a window, or a backlighting situation. Subject in the photo will be underexposed.
    Underexposed perhaps and the color will be off because the camera is shooting for 18% gray. But in focus. It is a contrast detection based systems. So what the system wants is a clean delineation of light and dark. Think of a vector [10,255,255,10]. This is a dark to light to dark transition and easy to detect in code. With my Droid even pictures of static objects in good light with similar hard edges are out of focus.
    01-27-2015 03:52 PM
  6. jerrykur's Avatar
    Nice shot for a phone. Good detail even in in the shadows.
    01-27-2015 03:55 PM
  7. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Nice shot for a phone. Good detail even in in the shadows.
    Umm, that's a screen grab of a photo of a photo as seen on a computer monitor. There are color inaccuracies, it is washed out and there are terrible noise artifacts. Just look at the Toyota logo on the boards across the ice surface.

    The point was that the motion of the players was captured without blurring.
    01-27-2015 04:01 PM
  8. jamielov's Avatar
    Nice shot for a phone. Good detail even in in the shadows.
    This is why I have such heartache over the Turbo. I have so many photos I took with my Maxx that are amazing. Any conditions I could throw at it, Penguins games, weddings, concerts, etc. Then the Turbo comes out and its just all garbage. If it wasnt such a step backwards I would probably not notice or care. But as it stands this has to be one of the most epic steps backwards in a camera release. It makes no sense at all.
    01-27-2015 04:02 PM
  9. jamielov's Avatar
    Umm, that's a screen grab of a photo of a photo as seen on a computer monitor. There are color inaccuracies, it is washed out and there are terrible noise artifacts. Just look at the Toyota logo on the boards across the ice surface.

    The point was that the motion of the players was captured without blurring.
    Man, you just can't accept that the Turbo camera sucks. You are really going to criticize THAT photo but go on and on how great your Turbo photos are. You lost a lot of credibility on that last post. For a camera phone, that example is pretty damn amazing vs what you keep telling me the Turbo won't take.
    01-27-2015 04:04 PM
  10. jamielov's Avatar
    01-27-2015 04:08 PM
  11. jamielov's Avatar
    and there is the garbage I got last week from about 6 rows back at a concert with good to great lighting with my Turbo. Simply amazing.
    01-27-2015 04:09 PM
  12. PowrDroid's Avatar
    and there is the garbage I got last week from about 6 rows back at a concert with good to great lighting with my Turbo. Simply amazing.
    Yick! That's intolerable. Can you post a couple more?

    You sure there's nothing wrong with your phone? I'd take it to Verizon and see if they will exchange it.
    01-27-2015 04:12 PM
  13. jamielov's Avatar
    01-27-2015 04:12 PM
  14. jamielov's Avatar
    and that is about the same distance away, maybe taken from slightly closer, under worse lighting, with the Maxx, for comparison of the issues.
    01-27-2015 04:13 PM
  15. jerrykur's Avatar
    Umm, that's a screen grab of a photo of a photo as seen on a computer monitor. There are color inaccuracies, it is washed out and there are terrible noise artifacts. Just look at the Toyota logo on the boards across the ice surface.

    The point was that the motion of the players was captured without blurring.
    I took the screen grab into account. But the nice dark transition imply that the camera in that phone captured and rendered hard detail. That is a difficult thing to do and get right.
    01-27-2015 04:14 PM
  16. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Man, you just can't accept that the Turbo camera sucks. You are really going to criticize THAT photo but go on and on how great your Turbo photos are. You lost a lot of credibility on that last post.
    Please point out where I posted photos from my Turbo and said they were "great"...

    For a camera phone, that example is pretty damn amazing vs what you keep telling me the Turbo won't take.
    The only thing that photo has going for it is that it stop-captured the motion of the players. Otherwise, it's crap. Why don't you post the actual photo as taken by your Maxx so we can all see it in all it's glory.
    01-27-2015 04:14 PM
  17. jamielov's Avatar
    01-27-2015 04:15 PM
  18. jamielov's Avatar
    well, thats another from the show. and I honestly deleted the worst of them, these were the ones I actually choose to keep. I dont know, maybe you feel the hockey one I posted was not great, but I would gladly take that quality over what I am getting now. I have tried so many different apps, so many different settings, and it just all sucks. I wont argue with the quality you are getting, but you said yourself maybe something is wrong with mine? I dont know, but maybe you can see what has me so worked up, you know?
    01-27-2015 04:17 PM
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    01-27-2015 04:20 PM
  20. jamielov's Avatar
    different show, same camera. Basically I am at the point where if I am not directly in their face under perfect lighting, forget it
    01-27-2015 04:21 PM
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    01-27-2015 04:23 PM
  22. jamielov's Avatar
    different show, further away, tons of noise happening...taken with the Maxx.
    01-27-2015 04:24 PM
  23. PowrDroid's Avatar
    well, thats another from the show. and I honestly deleted the worst of them, these were the ones I actually choose to keep. I dont know, maybe you feel the hockey one I posted was not great, but I would gladly take that quality over what I am getting now. I have tried so many different apps, so many different settings, and it just all sucks. I wont argue with the quality you are getting, but you said yourself maybe something is wrong with mine?
    I'm sure the original picture of the hockey game is better than a screen grab of a picture on a monitor.

    Yes, I think something is wrong with your camera.


    I dont know, but maybe you can see what has me so worked up, you know?
    Sheesh, yeah...I can see definitely see it.
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    01-27-2015 04:26 PM
  24. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Here's a photo that someone else took with their Turbo that I downloaded and took a closer look at. It's not a fantastic shot, but considering the lighting it's pretty good. I don't see why your camera shouldn't do at least this well. Be sure to click on the photo and maximize it.

    Is there a replacement camera app that makes the camera better?-turbo-photo.jpg
    01-27-2015 04:32 PM
  25. PowrDroid's Avatar
    different show, further away, tons of noise happening...taken with the Maxx.
    That's a perfectly acceptable photo given the lighting and the backdrop. Actually is pretty good.
    01-27-2015 04:33 PM
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