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  1. jamielov's Avatar
    That's a perfectly acceptable photo given the lighting and the backdrop. Actually is pretty good.
    No, sorry...i meant to say I agree...that photo came out great given the circumstances, taken with the maxx. I just meant there was a lot going on at the time I took it, and it still came out well. Then I try to shoot with the Turbo and get....well...you saw the results. I suppose I may need to take a trip to verizon if others are at least getting workable photos. I was not trying to come across as a smartass...but showing you what I am constantly getting, quality wise...i couldnt understand why anyone was saying they were acceptable.
    01-27-2015 03:40 PM
  2. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I try to shoot with the Turbo and get....well...you saw the results.
    Yes, I would be livid if that was the sort of photos I got with my new phone.

    I suppose I may need to take a trip to verizon if others are at least getting workable photos.
    I would definitely go there and complain. Show them the photos you posted here. Tell them you delete more photos than you keep. Dare them to take a photo with your phone and then one with a store demo Turbo phone. Make it a challenging shot, not a shot of a brightly lit object. Compare them side-by-side. I have to believe your phone camera will be inferior to the store's phone camera. Keep complaining until they swap out the phone for another one.

    I was not trying to come across as a smartass...but showing you what I am constantly getting, quality wise...i couldnt understand why anyone was saying they were acceptable.
    Well, I was wrong to imply your photos were good without seeing them. Those shots you posted are truly horrendous.
    01-27-2015 03:57 PM
  3. dcallan's Avatar
    Is it possible that your lens is smudged? Sorry, not intended to sound condescending.
    01-27-2015 04:01 PM
  4. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I went through my gallery on my Turbo looking for photos that might be similar to your concert photos, that is, lower light, or colored light, or difficult lighting conditions. Unfortunately, my camera is filled with shots of stuff related to work, or other boring things, but I do have a couple that were taken under somewhat challenging conditions. They do have some noise but I think they are decent shots. I know my Maxx HD would not have taken shots as well as the Turbo. Click on them and maximize.

    Is there a replacement camera app that makes the camera better?-gracechurch_121414.jpg


    Is there a replacement camera app that makes the camera better?-bar-countertop_120314_2.jpg
    01-27-2015 04:21 PM
  5. jamielov's Avatar
    Lens def not smudged. The photo quality has been this way pretty much since day one. I assumed with people chiming in that they were getting bad quality shots as well, it was the norm. But...I am seeing some examples, and am thinking it is a possibility maybe something is really wrong with mine. I really struggle getting a usable shot, but the examples above look a lot better than mine.
    01-27-2015 04:58 PM
  6. PowrDroid's Avatar
    jamielov, How does your camera do on extreme close-ups? Have you tried any? You could try to photograph some fine print on a brochure or something similar. I'd be curious to see how it turns out.

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    01-27-2015 05:06 PM
  7. KSDroid01's Avatar
    Thanks for the replies. I will give "A better camera" a try.

    As it is now, I have largely quit using the camera in my Droid Turbo. It cannot not handle many of my use cases for out and about shooting. My previous phones (HTC Evo, iPhone, etc) have been adequate for these situations, but not the Droid Turbo. I have plenty of dedicated cameras so I will just have to carry them more often unless this app can get the Droid Turbo camera to an acceptable level of performance. The alternative is to continue to have my wife use her Galaxy S5 to take all the shots. That phone seems to have no issues in getting shots where the Droid Turbo fails.
    I think it depends on each person's "use case". 95% of my photos are still scenery shots and I think it takes fabulous pictures in that context... significantly better than my M7. It does not do as well in low light as my M7 obviously, and it does struggle with motion shots... but I'd only qualify it as "horrible" if most of your shots are motion shots.

    Posted via the Turbo
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    01-27-2015 08:39 PM
  8. Bob Maida's Avatar
    I really don't get the constant defenders of the camera app that constantly post on here, as this camera is indeed horrid. One shouldn't need to go through a checklist of 23 different settings and actions taken before shooting a photo to get something useable. Its annoying as hell to constant read "did you tap to focus, did you turn on/or HDR, did you stand on your head, did you secure the stillness of the camera with steel wires, did you snap the shot 7 seconds before the pic you wanted while holding the shoot button for an extra 9 seconds?". Its a point and shoot. Since we keep repeating the same defenses I'll repeat that my Maxx took constantly better pictures in regular and low light with no effort. If this camera is so great, even usuable, why are there roughly 19 posts on any turbo board complaining about it? User error, right?

    And as usual as posted above....a still shot of parked cars "proving"??? The camera is great? Yet i can't get a useable pic of my lazy pug slowly walking across my living room. Photos at any hockey game I attend... Forget it. A blurry mess of half focused and half blurry players on the ice. Yeah...its a great camera.
    Pay attention..... the picture of the cars was taken in very poor light
    01-27-2015 11:46 PM
  9. jamielov's Avatar
    Pay attention..... the picture of the cars was taken in very poor light
    So you skip 3 pages of other examples of HORRID performance in decent to good light....and tell ME to pay attention? Priceless
    01-28-2015 08:51 AM
  10. jamielov's Avatar
    Is there a replacement camera app that makes the camera better?-img_20150120_223052782.jpg

    My attemp, in good light, to get a pic of my dog. Pay attention, lol...look at that amazing detail of the 21mp powerhouse!
    01-28-2015 09:04 AM
  11. Bob Maida's Avatar
    So you skip 3 pages of other examples of HORRID performance in decent to good light....and tell ME to pay attention? Priceless
    Camera must be kept still..... Otherwise they will get a horrible picture

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    01-28-2015 11:20 AM
  12. jamielov's Avatar
    Camera must be kept still..... Otherwise they will get a horrible picture

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    Understood....but I am not a robot, nor do I have steel cable reinforcements. I am holding the camera as still as humanely possible. Otherwise, how do you explain ONLY the slow moving dog being blurry but the couch, pillows, and all else NOT being blurry? I mean, its my shaking hand in this photo, in the other photo its the lights and possibly someone's head in the corner of the photo...i mean when do we run out of excuses and just say either my camera is junk, or they all are. Arent the points of cell phone cameras to capture those quick moments in life? I dont have time to set up my level to make sure it is at the proper level with NO slight movement at all, I dont have a lighting sensor to gauge the exact moment at a concert when it is safe to click away, and finally, I dont have the availability to stage the room as ask half the crowd to leave because someone in the bottom corner of my screen may throw off the shot. I cant ask my dog to stop moving so I can get a picture of her. I mean...seriously....it shouldnt be this hard to get a photo. It really shouldnt. Go back to my maxx pic of the hockey game. While we can argue that it is or isnt a nice photo, there are guys standing still, guys moving, all sorts of movement, and me behind the glass, and it still came out great. Then compare it to the concert photos I took with the Turbo.
    01-28-2015 02:48 PM
  13. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Understood....but I am not a robot, nor do I have steel cable reinforcements. I am holding the camera as still as humanely possible.

    Go back to my maxx pic of the hockey game. While we can argue that it is or isnt a nice photo, there are guys standing still, guys moving, all sorts of movement, and me behind the glass, and it still came out great. Then compare it to the concert photos I took with the Turbo.
    Yep. You likely hold the Turbo the same way you held the Maxx. It should take at least the same (or better) quality pictures. Having said that, I've found if I hold the camera steady a split second after the shot, that is, until I see the animated shutter close and swipe off the screen I get the best results.
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    01-28-2015 04:02 PM
  14. D._Manley's Avatar
    Guys take this FWIW. I've seen a number of horrible flash photos posted from the Turbo resulting in a heavy, greenish fog that totally washes out the subject. While playing with mine tonight I got a first hand look at it - didn't matter what I shot, if it flashed, it was horrible.

    I knew the phone had not been damaged and that non-flash photos were fine so I started tracking back to "what's changed". The answer was, a new, clear case. Looking closely I noticed that the flash LED's appeared a fraction further recessed in the case when compared to the previous one. Popped off the case, took a few shots, problem solved - it was reflection from the clear plastic flash ports. Replaced with the prior case & all remains fine.

    If your flash pictures are wonked badly, try without a case to check out the flash's reflection.
    01-28-2015 06:48 PM
  15. ckelly33's Avatar
    I have adapted to holding the camera a second or so after the shutter sound but that doesn't help with subjects in motion. It's crazy that the camera cannot capture objects any better than this (unless they are still). It's my biggest complaint with this phone
    01-29-2015 06:31 AM
  16. doogald's Avatar
    Shutter lag is so 2005. That's a problem long since solved. There's really no excuse for this on a contemporary smartphone in 2014/2015.
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    01-29-2015 06:38 AM
  17. droidguy1964's Avatar
    Shutter lag is so 2005. That's a problem long since solved. There's really no excuse for this on a contemporary smartphone in 2014/2015.
    I agree but still love my turbo.

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    01-29-2015 07:03 AM
  18. mountainman's Avatar
    Guys take this FWIW. I've seen a number of horrible flash photos posted from the Turbo resulting in a heavy, greenish fog that totally washes out the subject. While playing with mine tonight I got a first hand look at it - didn't matter what I shot, if it flashed, it was horrible.

    I knew the phone had not been damaged and that non-flash photos were fine so I started tracking back to "what's changed". The answer was, a new, clear case. Looking closely I noticed that the flash LED's appeared a fraction further recessed in the case when compared to the previous one. Popped off the case, took a few shots, problem solved - it was reflection from the clear plastic flash ports. Replaced with the prior case & all remains fine.

    If your flash pictures are wonked badly, try without a case to check out the flash's reflection.
    With that said, has anyone tried taking their case off and trying some pics? I'm interested in upgrading to the Turbo but the bad pics I've seen posted here are causing me to hesitate. Thanks for all the info good thread.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    01-29-2015 06:16 PM
  19. GatsbyGlen's Avatar
    I don't use a case with my phone. I'm quite happy with the pics thus far. I'll play around with some random, on the spur of the moment shots this weekend and see how they come out.
    01-30-2015 10:02 AM
  20. D._Manley's Avatar
    Just to put a point on my previous comment, I have experimented with about 6 different cases. The only one that produced the reflection issue on my 64G BN was the MoKo CC (clear case). The other clear Case Mate case did not. Too bad too, the MoKo is otherwise a nice case.
    01-30-2015 12:19 PM
  21. anon(9408097)'s Avatar
    Heyyyy.. I'm kind a photographer type of a person. And all my phones just NEED to have a good camera. Not to mention that they need to give the best phone experience as well. Having said that I've used all the iPhones till the 5S, Note 3, HTC one M8, Xperia z2 and the z3. And here's a comparison of my current Droid Turbo with all of them.

    Camera: I've managed to take good detailed still photos from all the cameras except the M8. The resolution wasn't there for post production. The droid turbo does equally well in daylight if we compare to the xperia z2 and z3. BUT YES, There's a limitation you'll face with the Droid turbo while taking 'extreme' action shots. They might come out blurry because of the low shutter speed. BUT most of the times in my experience, 'daylight' or maybe even 'evening' photos come out to be really sharp and detailed with good color balance. Low light pictures are horrible. Just as they were with the xperia and the note 3. Blurry and soft. Though xperia has some modes which 'may' help you if you're willing to tweak the settings which take a good amount of time before you take the shot. In conclusion, Turbo takes pictures of the same quality as the xperia takes and the note 3 takes. IPhone, note 4 and the s5 and s6 are more consistent and faster. Yes. There's no denying that. But the difference is only marginal (in daylight only).

    As an overall phone: Yes the iPhone and the samsungs might be 'consistent' in taking decent pictures but look at what you're giving up on. Droid Turbo: One of the best screens (I love the screen after the note4) best battery life, and I love the rugged design of the phone with amazing snappy software experience. You can't get a perfect phone. You just can't.

    So overall I think the Moto Droid Turbo is a winner. I've managed to take some really detailed shots which I will be happy to share if you want. Those include pictures of a moving car moving people and basic architectural compositions. Just as good as the Xperia series, the samsungsand the iPhone (in daylight minus the shutter lag which only hinders sometimes). Lowlight shots are just bad. Especially with moving subjects. For that the Samsungs and the apples are way better.

    So what you're really giving up on is only 'a few' of the action shots in daylight. And lowlight photography. And I'd suggest taking burst shots in the night. One of them might come out right. That's what I do.

    No phone is perfect.
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    04-14-2015 03:16 AM
  22. anon(9408097)'s Avatar
    These are some of the still photography samples. Will post some of the action photographs as well.

    These are untouched. Just cropped a little.

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    04-14-2015 03:46 AM
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    Definetly looks like you didn't hold the phone still. Not the phones fault. I have a steady hand and take great photo's

    My attemp, in good light, to get a pic of my dog. Pay attention, lol...look at that amazing detail of the 21mp powerhouse!
    04-14-2015 07:16 AM
  24. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Thanks for that post, Rizwan. It's nice to have some perspective from someone who has actually tried such a wide range of phones.

    In my experiences with the Turbo's camera, it is a matter of light, and the issue in particular is the margin for error for that seems ridiculously small. I have been taking action shots of my daughter playing basketball on the playground recently. They've come out great. Shots that were a blurry mess indorors, during daylight, in a gym with big windows. That's not direct sunlight, but certainly enough light to have done better with my prior Droid Maxx (which didn't come close to taking pictures as nice as the ones the Turbo takes in more ideal conditions). "Low light" in the Turbo's case isn't very low at all.

    I continue to hope the fix is in a software update.
    04-14-2015 07:30 AM
  25. jamielov's Avatar
    Lol....so I didnt hold my hand still...yet the only thing blurry in the photo is my moving dog? The table, couch, and pillow are fine, but my "moving hand" caused the dog blur. Amazing.
    04-14-2015 12:34 PM
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