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  1. TechCaptain's Avatar
    This app right here is a photographer's dream. I highly recommend for the Turbo.

    Sent from my (still relevant) Droid Maxx
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    Newdroid122 and GSEND like this.
    05-18-2015 02:40 AM
  2. TurboHope's Avatar
    They updated the turbo camera, it improved the speed of the shutter and some other issues

    Posted via the Android Central App
    05-22-2015 01:43 PM
  3. ckelly33's Avatar
    Anyone tried the updated Google camera (from 6/3)? Supposed to be quicker but does it improve anything about the Turbo's motion pics? (I'm without my turbo right now and cannot try it).
    06-04-2015 09:17 PM
  4. TurboHope's Avatar
    Doubt it. The camera's shutter can't be improved by an app like that, that's my opinion. I use the camera a lot, no matter which app I use the pics turn out the same.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    06-04-2015 10:28 PM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    The M camera on the N6 brought some improvement... Not sure if that will carry to the turbo or not.

    M Dev Nexus 6 Assassin Edition. Android Central Moderator.
    06-04-2015 10:31 PM
  6. what5k's Avatar
    Hello, I found that A Better Camera did quite well for my Turbo before I traded it in for an s6. Ultimately they can only do so much to improve it, if you're serious about good photos I'd recommend another phone.
    06-24-2015 03:49 AM
  7. 88horizon5speed's Avatar
    The turbo doesn't technically have a shutter. It's all digital. My old droid x had a shutter. And the way I see it is if you don't like the droid turbos camera, blame it in the software nit the hardware. This same exact model Sony sensor is used in multiple devices. So yes an new app (software) will fix the turbos camera (if you think k it is bad)
    06-25-2015 05:33 PM
  8. jamielov's Avatar
    That is not necessarily true. It may improve the camera, but it wont absolutely "fix" it. It is a combination of software AND hardware plaguing it. What does it matter if its the same "sony sensor" that others used, there are more factors at play here. It was never a great camera, id hesitate to even call it good. At best, even with improvements, it was "usable" at best for me. To claim its just the software is misleading. If that was the case, every camera could perform as well as a Galaxy s6, LG G4, or iphone 6 with just an update, which is really, really far from the truth. You can only work the the product components. The camera doesnt even have OIS which makes a lot of shots unbearably bad.
    06-27-2015 07:47 AM
  9. 88horizon5speed's Avatar
    So if people really like the Sony imx220 sensor in one phone and not in another then it is a software issue. It's like if you have two different cars with the same drivetrains (hardware) and one is faster, it could be an issue of weight, aerodynamics etc (software in my point). If a couple phones have the same camera sensor and one is better than the other then it is the software differences, which can be upgraded and made better
    06-27-2015 08:34 AM
  10. jamielov's Avatar
    Again, you are speaking in too wide of terms. Im not arguing the point of who made a "sensor" but there are more issues at play that contributed to the camera being sub par than simply the name "sony" on the sensor. How about aperture, sensor size, white balance, image stabilization, type of autofocus, flash, HDR, etc. Just because one part of the entire process says "sony" it does not mean, in the least, that it will offer the same experience as other cameras. If this is such a simple software issue, why, even after the update, are people still not raving about the camera or how amazing it is? Or why wouldn't Motorola offer a simple patch to just update and fix the camera to make it perfect? It lacks in plenty of areas, the name "sony" on the sensor is the least of the concerns.
    06-27-2015 09:18 AM
  11. jamielov's Avatar
    I understand your vehicle point/comparison, but lets look at it this way...if you took a Ferrari engine and placed it in a Ferrari, your overall experience would probably be really good. If you took a Ferrari engine and placed it into a Ford Focus, THAT part of the hardware is the same as a ferarri, but the overall products isnt, and the results would not be as good. Both could be categorized broadly as "hardware issues" (type of engine running the vehicle) but that is only part of the issue. Even if you fine tuned the engine to run better with the Ford Focus (a software issue) you still have other hardware components (making up the Ford Focus) that will run differently and place limitations in the Focus than it would with the Ferrari and its overall experience.
    06-27-2015 09:27 AM
  12. PowrDroid's Avatar
    That is not necessarily true. It may improve the camera, but it wont absolutely "fix" it. It is a combination of software AND hardware plaguing it. What does it matter if its the same "sony sensor" that others used, there are more factors at play here. It was never a great camera, id hesitate to even call it good. At best, even with improvements, it was "usable" at best for me. To claim its just the software is misleading. If that was the case, every camera could perform as well as a Galaxy s6, LG G4, or iphone 6 with just an update, which is really, really far from the truth. You can only work the the product components. The camera doesnt even have OIS which makes a lot of shots unbearably bad.
    The camera in the Sony Z3v is considered excellent by most reviewers. The Turbo users the same sensor. So, yes, software could fix the Turbos camera.

    Did someone from Motorola kill your puppy? You constantly post negative comments about the Turbo's camera, frequently using the same words verbatim, even though you got rid of your Turbo six weeks ago and are currently in love with the camera on your new LG G4. Why the animosity?
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    06-27-2015 11:02 AM
  13. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Again, you are speaking in too wide of terms. Im not arguing the point of who made a "sensor" but there are more issues at play that contributed to the camera being sub par than simply the name "sony" on the sensor. How about aperture
    Same.
    sensor size
    Same.
    white balance, image stabilization, type of autofocus, HDR, etc.
    All software.

    Just because one part of the entire process says "sony" it does not mean, in the least, that it will offer the same experience as other cameras.
    Even if it had Sony's software?

    If this is such a simple software issue, why, even after the update, are people still not raving about the camera or how amazing it is?
    Because Motorola doesn't use Sony's software.
    06-27-2015 11:12 AM
  14. PowrDroid's Avatar
    I understand your vehicle point/comparison, but lets look at it this way...if you took a Ferrari engine and placed it in a Ferrari, your overall experience would probably be really good. If you took a Ferrari engine and placed it into a Ford Focus...
    Analogy failure alert!

    A more apt analogy would be if you put Ferrari fuel injectors in the Ford engine and then adapted Ford software to control those injectors.
    06-27-2015 11:17 AM
  15. doogald's Avatar
    Remember that if the lenses are sub-par compared to Sony/Apple/Samsung, photos will be as well, and I'm not sure that Motorola uses high-quality lenses. Lenses are also hardware.

    It's easy to say "it's just software", but it's obviously hard to fix it, as Motorola just cannot seem to do so. What Motorola should have done - what Apple, Samsung, etc. have done - is hire excellent photo processing software engineers. They have had plenty of time to improve this, and they have yet to do so; Motorola has never delivered a phone with a top-of-the-line camera.

    By the way, the "software" that needs to be fixed is not just the camera app - it's primarily photo processing firmware that can only be updated by OTA. However, though I appreciate the decision to make the camera app simple to start and snap a photo, it would have been nice if they had allowed an advanced mode for users interested in more exact control.

    Honestly, I think that Motorola probably is working on new devices that will finally have firmware that will make great cameras for their future phones, but I am skeptical that they will spend a lot of time trying to improve already existing products. Time will tell, I guess, but if I were Moto, I'd spend these rare resources on upcoming products.

    [edit] Oh, and until Motorola improves this firmware, other third party apps won't help much at all. They are limited by the firmware's limited resources as well.
    06-27-2015 12:05 PM
  16. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Remember that if the lenses are sub-par compared to Sony/Apple/Samsung, photos will be as well, and I'm not sure that Motorola uses high-quality lenses. Lenses are also hardware.

    It's easy to say "it's just software", but it's obviously hard to fix it, as Motorola just cannot seem to do so. What Motorola should have done - what Apple, Samsung, etc. have done - is hire excellent photo processing software engineers.
    They should have licensed Sony's software/firmware.
    06-27-2015 12:28 PM
  17. jamielov's Avatar
    Ok, great. Compare what you asked me about the animosity. Why the need to follow me and all my posts and continually try to prove me wrong? Did motorola buy you a new swimming pool after "killing my puppy"?

    Analogy failure alert!!!!!! Really friend? Was it that hard to understand the point I was making that you needed to pick apart the car vehicle parts I used for examples. I truly get the feeling unless someone posts "OMG, Motorola Droid Turbo is the best phone ever and will never be bettered and can not be improved upon!!!!" you will have an issue with it. Remember how amazing the camera was when it first came out? It was perfect. Cut to the updates 5 months later on it....EVEN PERFECTER!!!!!!

    You have a lot of free time on your hands my friend. Is it hard for you to accept certain parts of a Motorola phone just arent very good, and others do it much better?
    06-27-2015 12:37 PM
  18. jamielov's Avatar
    The camera in the Sony Z3v is considered excellent by most reviewers. The Turbo users the same sensor. So, yes, software could fix the Turbos camera.

    Did someone from Motorola kill your puppy? You constantly post negative comments about the Turbo's camera, frequently using the same words verbatim, even though you got rid of your Turbo six weeks ago and are currently in love with the camera on your new LG G4. Why the animosity?
    Why do you care what I post? You seriously take the time to constantly post about....my posts. I dislike the phone greatly, and when a question arises about something I feel strongly about, being that this is a public discussion board, I feel its my right to discuss. This phone, to me, was so awful, so yes I feel I will share that thought when its in a subject about something that made me VERY unhappy, the camera. But since you want to follow me around, and its...only....a software issue, how amazing has the camera been since the update?

    I mean if you really want to troll some unhappy people, follow the Lollipop update thread. I mean, please...leave me alone.
    06-27-2015 12:38 PM
  19. PowrDroid's Avatar
    Ok, great. Compare what you asked me about the animosity. Why the need to follow me and all my posts and continually try to prove me wrong? Did motorola buy you a new swimming pool after "kicking my puppy"? Analogy failure alert!!!!!! You have a lot of free time on your hands my friend.
    You're still posting negative comments about the Turbo and you haven't owned one for six weeks or more. Plus I was the 3rd person to post on this rather lengthy thread. Who's following whom?
    06-27-2015 12:39 PM
  20. jamielov's Avatar
    Remember that if the lenses are sub-par compared to Sony/Apple/Samsung, photos will be as well, and I'm not sure that Motorola uses high-quality lenses. Lenses are also hardware.

    It's easy to say "it's just software", but it's obviously hard to fix it, as Motorola just cannot seem to do so. What Motorola should have done - what Apple, Samsung, etc. have done - is hire excellent photo processing software engineers. They have had plenty of time to improve this, and they have yet to do so; Motorola has never delivered a phone with a top-of-the-line camera.

    By the way, the "software" that needs to be fixed is not just the camera app - it's primarily photo processing firmware that can only be updated by OTA. However, though I appreciate the decision to make the camera app simple to start and snap a photo, it would have been nice if they had allowed an advanced mode for users interested in more exact control.

    Honestly, I think that Motorola probably is working on new devices that will finally have firmware that will make great cameras for their future phones, but I am skeptical that they will spend a lot of time trying to improve already existing products. Time will tell, I guess, but if I were Moto, I'd spend these rare resources on upcoming products.

    [edit] Oh, and until Motorola improves this firmware, other third party apps won't help much at all. They are limited by the firmware's limited resources as well.
    Very good, logical, and truthful points. Its a shame some have such a painful time agreeing what is so obviously true. Moto and cameras just have not competed well, and continue to be subpar. Until changes are made, they can continue to tout battery life as much as they want, but describing their cameras as anything remotely resembling "quality" is misleading at best, and willful ignorance in closer reality.
    06-27-2015 12:44 PM
  21. jamielov's Avatar
    You're still posting negative comments about the Turbo and you haven't owned one for six weeks or more. Plus I was the 3rd person to post on this rather lengthy thread. Who's following whom?
    You took the time to discuss/disprove my post, point by point...yet nothing about the camera has really changed. You are tracking how long it has been since Ive had the phone. That is seriously obsessive. In the past 6 years, in MY OWN OPINION, it was the worst phone Ive owned. So when I can comment on it, I will. You can chose to say you LOVE THIS PHONE MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF, but that doesnt negate my feelings. Im truly not trolling you, quite opposite...I wish you would leave me alone.
    06-27-2015 12:51 PM
  22. Jheebs's Avatar
    TIMEOUT KIDS...SEPARATE CORNERS PLEASE !!!

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    06-27-2015 01:00 PM
  23. jamielov's Avatar
    I post my own opinions and never try to specifically make my opinions someone elses, nor do I ever say...NO YOU ARE WRONG, I AM RIGHT. You can have your own opinions and thoughts on the matter and I won't follow you around and tell you why your thoughts or feelings on an inanimate object are invalid. It just is a bit...obsessive. The same person has been commenting on my comments for the past 3 months, and I guess when you love a phone so much you make it your user name, I should realize you take your phone a bit too seriously.
    06-27-2015 01:08 PM
  24. 88horizon5speed's Avatar
    Actaully if you took a ferrari and put it into a really small lightweight car youd chance having a fricken fast car! But your not understanding the point that multiple phones have this same sensor, and people dont complain about the picture it takes so it obviously is a software issue in the turbo.

    In every electronic part of a phone or computer there are 3 things...

    - Hardware- the physical piece of each equiptment
    -Software- how the user controls the equiptment
    -Drivers- the link between the hardware and software, technically a driver is software

    if 2 phones have the same exact hardware and one is known to take better pictures than the other then it is the software at fault.

    I highly doubt motorola uses such poor quality lenses that it impacts the photos. Mostly because my turbo takes fantastic photos
    06-27-2015 07:09 PM
  25. jamielov's Avatar
    Actaully if you took a ferrari and put it into a really small lightweight car youd chance having a fricken fast car! But your not understanding the point that multiple phones have this same sensor, and people dont complain about the picture it takes so it obviously is a software issue in the turbo.

    In every electronic part of a phone or computer there are 3 things...

    - Hardware- the physical piece of each equiptment
    -Software- how the user controls the equiptment
    -Drivers- the link between the hardware and software, technically a driver is software

    if 2 phones have the same exact hardware and one is known to take better pictures than the other then it is the software at fault.

    I highly doubt motorola uses such poor quality lenses that it impacts the photos. Mostly because my turbo takes fantastic photos
    Ok, well we can respectfully agree to disagree. I am not doubting that you feel the photos are fantastic. Besides a few droid turbo loyalists though, i havent heard this camera praised at all. My opinion was that it was one of the worst cameras ive owned...and truly impossible to capture movement in the slightest of conditions considered challenging. I also take witha grain of salt those who praised the camera as absolutely perfect and flawless before this update....then after the update finally slightly conceding... "Oh, just joking, it wasn't perfect but this update fixed all those nonexistent issues i spent the last 4 months claiming didnt exist.
    06-28-2015 12:30 AM
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