02-05-2015 04:10 PM
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  1. Ping Man's Avatar
    Seriously? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! Very disappointed.
    02-02-2015 04:12 PM
  2. SpookDroid's Avatar
    The S5 is older than the Turbo... why is this a big deal? Yes, Moto is usually quicker in releasing updates, but this is a Verizon variant we're talking about. It's not just Motorola that's involved.
    02-02-2015 04:19 PM
  3. Ping Man's Avatar
    That's just it. A newer phone I think would typically be a priority over an older phone. Also, the S5 I noted is also a Verizon variant. So basically Samsung beat Motorola in rolling out Lollipop to its flagship phone. Not cool.
    02-02-2015 08:48 PM
  4. silverback's Avatar
    I'd rather they take the time to get it right. I am sick of full wipes on every upgrade.
    02-02-2015 11:14 PM
  5. jdfrye's Avatar
    Im assuming they get 5.0 but Moto is working on 5.0.1or2 for us
    02-02-2015 11:17 PM
  6. tdizzel's Avatar
    The S5 is older than the Turbo... why is this a big deal? Yes, Moto is usually quicker in releasing updates, but this is a Verizon variant we're talking about. It's not just Motorola that's involved.
    Both phones are Verizon variants, so what's your point?

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    02-02-2015 11:38 PM
  7. Bitterman's Avatar
    The point is it is Verizon that decides when to release the update not Samsung or Motorola.

    Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
    02-03-2015 01:02 AM
  8. vzwuser76's Avatar
    That's just it. A newer phone I think would typically be a priority over an older phone. Also, the S5 I noted is also a Verizon variant. So basically Samsung beat Motorola in rolling out Lollipop to its flagship phone. Not cool.
    Actually, Motorola's flagship phone, the 2014 Moto X has had Lollipop for at least a month or two, including the Verizon variant (it's rollout started on November 24, 2014). IIRC it was one of the first devices to get Lollipop, even before the Nexus devices. The 2013 Moto X also got KK a month before any of the 2013 Droids did. This rollout for Lollipop has been the most troublesome of any they've ever done. When the Nexus devices aren't getting Lollipop until months after it was released, that means there are issues.
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    02-03-2015 02:07 AM
  9. Eli_C's Avatar
    The S5 is older than the Turbo... why is this a big deal? Yes, Moto is usually quicker in releasing updates, but this is a Verizon variant we're talking about. It's not just Motorola that's involved.
    Because the S5 has Touchwiz, and should be slower to port 5.0 onto, vs the Turbo which is pretty close to straight up Android.
    02-03-2015 08:54 AM
  10. SpookDroid's Avatar
    Because the S5 has Touchwiz, and should be slower to port 5.0 onto, vs the Turbo which is pretty close to straight up Android.
    TouchWiz VS 'pretty close to straight up Android' is basically the same: The manufacturer needs time to adapt Google's 'pure' release and adjust their modifications. Call it TouchWiz or MotoWhatever, Samsung had more time to develop the ROM than Motorola. And on top of things, the Carrier is involved. While the Lollipop update for the S5 was released from Samsung a while ago, it took time to reach Verizon's because of that. Same thing with Moto's.
    02-03-2015 11:12 AM
  11. Eli_C's Avatar
    TouchWiz VS 'pretty close to straight up Android' is basically the same:
    wrong

    Call it TouchWiz or MotoWhatever, Samsung had more time to develop the ROM than Motorola.
    How do you figure? Because Turbo was released later? Moto had access to the same developer editions of 5.0 and should have been building the Turbo for 5.0. Moto also launched the Nexus 6 with 5.0, so they probably had more access to it then other developers.

    And on top of things, the Carrier is involved. While the Lollipop update for the S5 was released from Samsung a while ago, it took time to reach Verizon's because of that. Same thing with Moto's.
    Same carrier, so Im not sure where you are going with this.
    02-03-2015 12:13 PM
  12. doogald's Avatar
    All of the manufacturers had early access to Lollipop. Kudos to Samsung for getting the S5 rolled out so fast, though I hope for the sake of their users that the update is solid.

    I personally don't give a crap what other phones have or don't have, but I do really care that the update I get is as bug-free as possible. I'd rather wait than go through what happened last year (some major bugs in the early-released KitKat upgrade for the Droids that wasn't fixed for six full months.) Frankly, I think that Motorola learned a lesson last year - being first just means extra work when the inevitable patch releases come out a few weeks later.
    02-03-2015 12:56 PM
  13. jerrykur's Avatar
    Given all the bugs in Lollipop I am in no hurry for an upgrade.

    Hopefully when they do upgrade the Droid Turbo it will be to 5.0.2 or some other stable version of Lollipop.
    02-03-2015 02:15 PM
  14. Raleigh Voight's Avatar
    I just hope they make encryption optional on the version we get

    Posted via the Android Central App
    02-03-2015 03:01 PM
  15. doogald's Avatar
    Given all the bugs in Lollipop I am in no hurry for an upgrade.

    Hopefully when they do upgrade the Droid Turbo it will be to 5.0.2 or some other stable version of Lollipop.
    See https://plus.google.com/110587026141...ts/cSmnePt6zpP

    He's responsible for this at Motorola; it sure looks like they are pushing 5.0.2.
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    02-03-2015 04:13 PM
  16. this_is_nascar's Avatar
    Once LP is released and available for the Turbo and considering we can't root this phone, is there a mechanism to stop the update from occurring?
    02-03-2015 05:03 PM
  17. silverback's Avatar
    All of the manufacturers had early access to Lollipop. Kudos to Samsung for getting the S5 rolled out so fast, though I hope for the sake of their users that the update is solid.

    I personally don't give a crap what other phones have or don't have, but I do really care that the update I get is as bug-free as possible. I'd rather wait than go through what happened last year (some major bugs in the early-released KitKat upgrade for the Droids that wasn't fixed for six full months.) Frankly, I think that Motorola learned a lesson last year - being first just means extra work when the inevitable patch releases come out a few weeks later.
    Exactly!
    02-03-2015 07:32 PM
  18. jweimn's Avatar
    TouchWiz VS 'pretty close to straight up Android' is basically the same: The manufacturer needs time to adapt Google's 'pure' release and adjust their modifications. Call it TouchWiz or MotoWhatever, Samsung had more time to develop the ROM than Motorola. And on top of things, the Carrier is involved. While the Lollipop update for the S5 was released from Samsung a while ago, it took time to reach Verizon's because of that. Same thing with Moto's.
    Not the same, even motorola stated due to their OS being stock in nature it is much easier and quicker to update which in this case is obviously not true. Whether the s5 has been out longer has nothing to do with it getting an update quicker as lollipop was released at a later date than both of these phones so the manufacturers both had an equal amount of time to make builds for their phones. In this case around it just appears motorola is much slower this time around than last.
    02-04-2015 10:24 AM
  19. tdizzel's Avatar
    Not the same, even motorola stated due to their OS being stock in nature it is much easier and quicker to update which in this case is obviously not true. Whether the s5 has been out longer has nothing to do with it getting an update quicker as lollipop was released at a later date than both of these phones so the manufacturers both had an equal amount of time to make builds for their phones. In this case around it just appears motorola is much slower this time around than last.
    How do you know it's "obviously not true"? How do you know they're not being slow but instead skipping versions that are too buggy? For all you know they could be jumping straight to 5.1 which would actually make them incredibly fast.
    It amazes me how people can make statements like they're fact when really they have no idea what's going on.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    02-04-2015 10:59 AM
  20. jweimn's Avatar
    How do you know it's "obviously not true"? How do you know they're not being slow but instead skipping versions that are too buggy? For all you know they could be jumping straight to 5.1 which would actually make them incredibly fast.
    It amazes me how people can make statements like they're fact when really they have no idea what's going on.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    Easy because 5.1 still hasn't been released and is still in testing by Google so motorola doesn't have possession of that yet. And I know because of the galaxy s5, moto x and HTC one all have had atleast one of their variants updated without issue.
    02-04-2015 11:12 AM
  21. tdizzel's Avatar
    Easy because 5.1 still hasn't been released and is still in testing by Google so motorola doesn't have possession of that yet. And I know because of the galaxy s5, moto x and HTC one all have had atleast one of their variants updated without issue.
    Good points...except the part where they are both wrong. Check the front page of AC, 5.1 has been spotted in the wild. And it doesn't take much time on the forums for each of those phones to see that they have had some issues with lollipop.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    02-04-2015 11:35 AM
  22. jweimn's Avatar
    Good points...except the part where they are both wrong. Check the front page of AC, 5.1 has been spotted in the wild. And it doesn't take much time on the forums for each of those phones to see that they have had some issues with lollipop.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    Spotted in the wild is not a release. It's presently only on android one devices and that's due to testing it still isn't an OS that's been released to manufacturers. And yes 5.0 has had some issues but even so with TouchWiz as well samsung still has pushed out a stable 5.0 update without any real noticeable bugs
    02-04-2015 11:42 AM
  23. tdizzel's Avatar
    Spotted in the wild is not a release. It's presently only on android one devices and that's due to testing it still isn't an OS that's been released to manufacturers. And yes 5.0 has had some issues but even so with TouchWiz as well samsung still has pushed out a stable 5.0 update without any real noticeable bugs
    Again, how do you know it's only being tested on Android One? For all you know if could be in the final days of testing on the Nexus. Moto could have it and it could be in the final days of testing for the Turbo. It's been spotted meaning we could very well be less than a week away from it being on multiple phones and the Turbo could be one of them, so again you are stating things as facts when you really have no idea.
    And what are acceptable bugs to Samsung might not be acceptable to Moto, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit of they are going to what should be a much more stable 5.1.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    02-04-2015 12:05 PM
  24. jweimn's Avatar
    Again, how do you know it's only being tested on Android One? For all you know if could be in the final days of testing on the Nexus. Moto could have it and it could be in the final days of testing for the Turbo. It's been spotted meaning we could very well be less than a week away from it being on multiple phones and the Turbo could be one of them, so again you are stating things as facts when you really have no idea.
    And what are acceptable bugs to Samsung might not be acceptable to Moto, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit of they are going to what should be a much more stable 5.1.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    As that's the only device it's been seen on. Again even if it's still in testing possibly on a nexus device motorola doesn't have it as it hasn't been released. You ask me how do I know but my question is how do you know motorola is testing it for the turbo? You dont. Motorola has been slow with this update and their is no reason for period no matter how anyone might spin it
    02-04-2015 12:10 PM
  25. tdizzel's Avatar
    As that's the only device it's been seen on. Again even if it's still in testing possibly on a nexus device motorola doesn't have it as it hasn't been released. You ask me how do I know but my question is how do you know motorola is testing it for the turbo? You dont. Motorola has been slow with this update and their is no reason for period no matter how anyone might spin it
    Wow! That may be the worst answer I've ever seen, and that's saying a lot. If what you just said is accurate, then OEMs release updates to phones before the OEM ever sees the updates.
    And i never said i knew of Moto is testing 5.1, but you keep talking like you know for a fact that they're not. And actually, not putting incredibly buggy software on a phone is a pretty darn good reason to be taking this slow...no matter how much you try to spin it.

    Posted from my Droid Turbo, Kelly and Ozone
    02-04-2015 12:34 PM
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