04-21-2015 09:05 PM
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  1. anon(9228075)'s Avatar
    Why does textra use 192+mb? I'm trying different ones out and noticed textra is 192 mb on my app list. Also tried chomp and it's made by same company and its just 15mb?

    Whats the deal?

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    04-18-2015 07:05 PM
  2. Ping Man's Avatar
    Is that the app storage or the data? The app storage is one of the smallest SMS apps on the market. I can understand why the data would be high, many texts with embedded photos or videos.
    04-18-2015 10:50 PM
  3. Ping Man's Avatar
    The size of the app should only be around 4MB.
    04-18-2015 10:52 PM
  4. anon(9228075)'s Avatar
    Is that the app storage or the data? The app storage is one of the smallest SMS apps on the market. I can understand why the data would be high, many texts with embedded photos or videos.
    It's the data #. But... I have chomp, verizon messages, Google Messenger all installed and none of them have more than 6mb in the data category. Textra = 187mb...

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    04-19-2015 08:46 AM
  5. KPMcClave's Avatar
    It's the data #. But... I have chomp, verizon messages, Google Messenger all installed and none of them have more than 6mb in the data category. Textra = 187mb...

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    I'm sure part of it has to do with the level of customizability in Textra. The ability to save individual settings for all your contacts (or however many you choose) adds up more than it would in the data of an app without that ability or with options for that. The fact I can set individual alert tones for each contact is one of the things that keeps me using Textra, and coming back when I try something different.

    As I recall, Google Messenger has only basic customization.

    Verizon Messages is something I was surprised I liked quite a bit...but then discovered all the customization you can do person by person is for a *conversation* and not a contact. So, deleting a conversation also deletes any personalization for that person (folks who don't clean up finished conversations wouldn't really notice but I delete conversations when they've run their course). The next message you receive will be with default settings you have set for the app. I assume that also means less info is being saved as data.

    I also tried out Chomp recently. I ended up back with Textra pretty quickly. Nothing bad at all about Chomp, and I don't recall specifically what it lacked that I missed (the other thing I like about Textra after contacts customization is font settings...I think I liked the display of text better with Textra than Chomp and Chomp didn't allow me to tweak).

    FYI, my App storage is 8.3 MB, and Data is 57.17 MB. My data is large, yours seems huge, but I also don't know how much customization you've done, how many active conversations you might have going on etc.

    For me, the larger storage needed is absolutely worth it. Textra is the best for me.
    04-19-2015 09:08 AM
  6. doogald's Avatar
    Unlike most other sms apps (maybe all of them), textra pulls your messages from Android's central store and has its own database, and it also fetches MMS messages itself. When you first install and make textra the default sms app you'll see a message saying that it might be slow for a while as it optimizes your messages. That's when it is copying the old message store over.

    (Well, now that I read that, it may be that it pulls in only the MMS messages, but remember that group text messages, even if they are all plain text, are also handled as MMS messages.)

    I just installed textra without making it the default app. It's 8.35 MB.
    04-19-2015 09:33 AM
  7. KPMcClave's Avatar
    I suspect it holds on to old messages in data, even if I deletes them? I can't imagine only my customizations would take up 57+ MB. When I delete my texts I don't want them hanging around taking up space (unless it was important to me to archive them, and then I would look for a program to do that...I don't believe I have that option in Textra anyway). Maybe all those little notfication tones and color bubble settings just take up more room than I think, but I don't have hundreds or even dozens of personalizations..
    04-19-2015 09:47 AM
  8. Newdroid122's Avatar
    Damn. Never looked at this. Mines @ 327.

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    04-19-2015 03:16 PM
  9. Ping Man's Avatar
    No way it's due to customization. Chomp offers way more. Textra is fast and prides itself on having a small footprint. Anything above the 8 or 9 MB is due to the number of conversations and messages and photos within those messages. You could probably ask Max or Jason over at Textra, they always respond quickly.
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    04-19-2015 06:22 PM
  10. KPMcClave's Avatar
    No way it's due to customization. Chomp offers way more. Textra is fast and prides itself on having a small footprint. Anything above the 8 or 9 MB is due to the number of conversations and messages and photos within those messages. You could probably ask Max or Jason over at Textra, they always respond quickly.
    Unless it is holding on to messages and photos within them after I delete them, it isn't from comversations. I had no active messages in Textra when I posted my earlier data total. I also had no cached media in the Textra folder on my phone.

    If it is holding on to old (deleted) conversations and media from them,that is a huge waste of storage space. And one that I am guessing we can only delete while also deleting customizations.
    04-19-2015 06:52 PM
  11. anon(9228075)'s Avatar
    I'm sure part of it has to do with the level of customizability in Textra. The ability to save individual settings for all your contacts (or however many you choose) adds up more than it would in the data of an app without that ability or with options for that. The fact I can set individual alert tones for each contact is one of the things that keeps me using Textra, and coming back when I try something different.

    As I recall, Google Messenger has only basic customization.

    Verizon Messages is something I was surprised I liked quite a bit...but then discovered all the customization you can do person by person is for a *conversation* and not a contact. So, deleting a conversation also deletes any personalization for that person (folks who don't clean up finished conversations wouldn't really notice but I delete conversations when they've run their course). The next message you receive will be with default settings you have set for the app. I assume that also means less info is being saved as data.

    I also tried out Chomp recently. I ended up back with Textra pretty quickly. Nothing bad at all about Chomp, and I don't recall specifically what it lacked that I missed (the other thing I like about Textra after contacts customization is font settings...I think I liked the display of text better with Textra than Chomp and Chomp didn't allow me to tweak).

    FYI, my App storage is 8.3 MB, and Data is 57.17 MB. My data is large, yours seems huge, but I also don't know how much customization you've done, how many active conversations you might have going on etc.

    For me, the larger storage needed is absolutely worth it. Textra is the best for me.
    Mine is like that right out of the gate. As soon as I install it. No customizations.

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    04-19-2015 08:07 PM
  12. anon(9228075)'s Avatar
    No way it's due to customization. Chomp offers way more. Textra is fast and prides itself on having a small footprint. Anything above the 8 or 9 MB is due to the number of conversations and messages and photos within those messages. You could probably ask Max or Jason over at Textra, they always respond quickly.
    Mine must be messages. I never delete message threads. Not once since I had my turbo (December)

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    04-19-2015 08:10 PM
  13. anon(9228075)'s Avatar
    Damn. Never looked at this. Mines @ 327.

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    Holy crap lol. That's worse than mine.

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    04-19-2015 08:10 PM
  14. Codger1212's Avatar
    . 98 gb on mine. Wtf?
    Deleted a few conversations and now down to about 300mb.
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    04-19-2015 10:18 PM
  15. Ping Man's Avatar
    From Textra:

    You must have tons of messages correct?

    Textra uses it's own data base to enhance performance, most other messaging apps like chompSMS feed off the stock messaging apps data-base.
    04-19-2015 11:05 PM
  16. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Mine must be messages. I never delete message threads. Not once since I had my turbo (December)

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    See, that makes sense. I do and shouldn't have a ton of data (although mine at 49.71 MB of Data seems high for having no active conversations in Textra right now but nowhere near the high triple digits some of you guys have).
    04-19-2015 11:07 PM
  17. KPMcClave's Avatar
    From Textra:

    You must have tons of messages correct?

    Textra uses it's own data base to enhance performance, most other messaging apps like chompSMS feed off the stock messaging apps data-base.
    It makes sense to me if you get a lot of messages and never delete them that you'd have even as much as 327 MB. Also, even with a fresh install of Textra, if it imported messages you had that weren't deleted, it would have increased Data storage immediatly...but only if you can actually see them. My main question is whether or not messages info is saved after we delete them. If you have 327 MB of data storage and no messages in Textra, for example.
    04-19-2015 11:10 PM
  18. Newdroid122's Avatar
    I cleared the data and deleted my messages and it dropped down to 10mb. I have deleted my messages before, but I dont do it regularly. When I deleted I had 22 convos going.

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    04-20-2015 07:48 AM
  19. KPMcClave's Avatar
    I cleared the data and deleted my messages and it dropped down to 10mb. I have deleted my messages before, but I dont do it regularly. When I deleted I had 22 convos going.

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    When you cleared your data it also deleted your customization settings?

    Clearing the data didn't clear the messaages? Meaning you also had to go in to Textra and delete them?
    04-20-2015 09:03 AM
  20. Newdroid122's Avatar
    When you cleared your data it also deleted your customization settings?

    Clearing the data didn't clear the messaages? Meaning you also had to go in to Textra and delete them?
    Correct and correct. The customization was a little annoying but it's back to how it was. And deleting the conversations was simple but, yes. Did have to clear away both

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    04-20-2015 09:59 AM
  21. KPMcClave's Avatar
    Correct and correct. The customization was a little annoying but it's back to how it was. And deleting the conversations was simple but, yes. Did have to clear away both

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    That second part is a head scratcher.
    04-20-2015 10:17 AM
  22. Newdroid122's Avatar
    That second part is a head scratcher.
    I know. I was surprised after clearing the data... Textra started as if it was the first time. It got started. Then all of a sudden it began loading all my messages. Took about 2 minutes to complete. Once I saw that I manually went in and deleted all

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    04-20-2015 01:34 PM
  23. Ping Man's Avatar
    I like that you can delete multiple conversations at the same time. Makes it much easier.
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    04-20-2015 04:51 PM
  24. KPMcClave's Avatar
    I know. I was surprised after clearing the data... Textra started as if it was the first time. It got started. Then all of a sudden it began loading all my messages. Took about 2 minutes to complete. Once I saw that I manually went in and deleted all

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    Oh, I think with the description I get it now. The messages were stored on the server. If you had deleted those first and then the data, rather than the other way around, I assume you would have had no messages when you restarted and set up Textra. Although I'm still not 100% certain of that given the big data totals even with no messagea active in Textra.
    04-20-2015 05:24 PM
  25. Newdroid122's Avatar
    Oh, I think with the description I get it now. The messages were stored on the server. If you had deleted those first and then the data, rather than the other way around, I assume you would have had no messages when you restarted and set up Textra. Although I'm still not 100% certain of that given the big data totals even with no messagea active in Textra.
    Yea you may be right about that.. My assumed clearing all data/settings/customizations etc would have included clearing the existing messages. In any event, like it was said above, selecting multiple conversations at once simplifies things

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    04-20-2015 07:20 PM
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