1. Kiersten_Kress's Avatar
    Edit: corrected the"Ulta" to "Ultra" before Ulta the cosmetics retails sues me for infringement.

    Who's betting that the Droid Ultra(and it's big and small brothers) will NOT sell well?

    I'll just go on record here. Will re-visit this thread in 3 to 5 months to see if I'm right.
    07-23-2013 01:24 PM
  2. ultravisitor's Avatar
    The RAZR line has typically done well for Verizon. I think they just don't sell better because they're only on Verizon.

    I'd be getting a MAXX if I wasn't waiting to hear more about the X. I imagine I'm not the only person in this position right now.
    07-23-2013 01:28 PM
  3. taylorz_412's Avatar
    I also feel they will do well. A lot of general consumers "normal people" walk in and the reps point them to the newest droids
    07-23-2013 01:38 PM
  4. masc69's Avatar
    The Maxx has a following due to the insane battery life. I know of three people who have already pre ordered the Maxx. The other two have decent battery life as well.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    07-23-2013 01:41 PM
  5. ultravisitor's Avatar
    They are good phones to recommend to people who are more of the "general consumer" type. For instance, I recommended them to my sisters because I knew they'd be easy to use and my sisters, like lots of others with smartphones, have battery life as a main concern. When my sister asked why I recommended the RAZR MAXX for her while I had a Galaxy Nexus, I told her, "My battery doesn't last nearly as long as yours. I often can't make it through an entire day without recharging." She was like, "Oh. Nevermind then."
    masc69 likes this.
    07-23-2013 01:43 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    Who's betting that the Droid Ulta(and it's big and small brothers) will NOT sell well?

    I'll just go on record here. Will re-visit this thread in 3 to 5 months to see if I'm right.
    Which side are you on?
    07-23-2013 01:54 PM
  7. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Who's betting that the Droid Ulta(and it's big and small brothers) will NOT sell well?

    I'll just go on record here. Will re-visit this thread in 3 to 5 months to see if I'm right.
    The RAZR line outsells the iPhone on Verizon.

    History is not on your side on this one.
    07-23-2013 02:16 PM
  8. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    I think the mini and ultra are spot on. Not so much the maxx, but I suppose we will see soon enough.

    Jennifer Stough
    Forums Moderator
    Droid DNA
    07-23-2013 02:17 PM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    The RAZR line outsells the iPhone on Verizon.

    History is not on your side on this one.
    Not sure if that's true across the board but yes, there were a few months where the RAZR came out on top over the iPhone.
    07-23-2013 02:17 PM
  10. Snareman's Avatar
    I think the mini and ultra are spot on. Not so much the maxx, but I suppose we will see soon enough.

    Jennifer Stough
    Forums Moderator
    Droid DNA
    What makes you think the Maxx won't do as well? After owning a RMHD I can't see going to a smaller battery.
    07-23-2013 02:36 PM
  11. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    What makes you think the Maxx won't do as well? After owning a RMHD I can't see going to a smaller battery.
    It's not that I don't think it will do as well, I just don't feel like it is a huge differential from the original maxx. I am just a little let down by it. Purely personal opinion

    Jennifer Stough
    Forums Moderator
    Droid DNA
    07-23-2013 02:42 PM
  12. Snareman's Avatar
    It's not that I don't think it will do as well, I just don't feel like it is a huge differential from the original maxx. I am just a little let down by it. Purely personal opinion

    Jennifer Stough
    Forums Moderator
    Droid DNA
    I hear what you're saying. It "looks" like pretty much the same phone. Although I wish it was available in red like the Ultra. But even though I'm only 8 months into my RMHD, I'm always itching for the next big thing and figured they'd come out with a MAXX successor. I wish they could have kept the L&W dimensions the same as there is ever increasing phone size creep, but I guess the screen is over a quarter inch larger so it had to go somewhere. I'm curious to see how it feels in the hand comparatively. Some of the new features like the always on GoogleNow and wireless charging sound nice. I guess I'll have to get something else to prop it up on next to my bed now since I won't need the dock. And, well if you want to give me essentially the same sized phone with 16h more battery life I'm not going to complain. Interesting that they were able to squeeze 16 more hours our of 400 more mAh. I guess the phone is just that much more efficient. Also curious to see the thinness of the Ulta
    07-23-2013 03:28 PM
  13. ultravisitor's Avatar
    Also curious to see the thinness of the Ulta
    If it really is as thin as the original Droid RAZR, then it'll be insanely thin. I thought the thinness of that phone, along with its width, made it a bit awkward to hold.
    07-23-2013 03:50 PM
  14. philly's Avatar
    Who's betting that the Droid Ulta(and it's big and small brothers) will NOT sell well?

    I'll just go on record here. Will re-visit this thread in 3 to 5 months to see if I'm right.
    I'll bet the ulta doesn't sell well. the Ultra will sell like hotcakes though. people are starting to get over there love of samsung which makes horrible phones.

    since the mini has the same specs I am just going to be buying it, already have a razr M and it blows away all the other smart phones I've owned.
    Ry likes this.
    07-23-2013 04:27 PM
  15. GBH2's Avatar
    It's not that I don't think it will do as well, I just don't feel like it is a huge differential from the original maxx. I am just a little let down by it. Purely personal opinion

    Jennifer Stough
    Forums Moderator
    Droid DNA
    I agree. It's certainly not a bad phone - but I am a bit underwhelmed by it. I was looking at it in my Verizon upgrade area, thought I might pre-order it, but I just felt very "MEH" about it.

    My Bionic still has some life left in it. I guess I am in no real hurry.
    07-23-2013 04:28 PM
  16. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Not sure if that's true across the board but yes, there were a few months where the RAZR came out on top over the iPhone.
    At the least I know the RAZR MAXX used to, and RAZR HD does, go back and forth with to iPhone for king of sales, obviously specifically on VZW.

    Still, the Droid line will never be a massive seller being that it's limited to just one carrier, but we all know that already.
    Ry likes this.
    07-23-2013 05:00 PM
  17. NotJustAPhone's Avatar
    Keep the discussion on-topic and appropriate. I won't ask again.

    Thread cleaned up.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
    07-23-2013 05:15 PM
  18. MikeBinOK's Avatar
    I don't see anything that is going to cause the great mass of consumers come in droves to Verizon stores demanding to buy this phone. Of the various "cool" features they demonstrated the only one that I found appealing was the fast action camera, which I do think is an excellent idea but is not going to sell a phone on its own. The specifications certainly are not anything that is going to wow high-tech buffs such as those who populate these forums. I am an owner of a razor Maxx from the release date, And am planning to update my phone early. I had already pretty much decided I'm going with the Galaxy S4, and alas I didn't see anything today that made me hesitate in that plan. I hope that incentives for the Motorola salesforce and perhaps the the Droid name will make this phone a success anyway which I think would be a good thing, I want Motorola to continue to be a success. I really like many of the features on my razor Maxx, Smart Actions are awesome, for instance. Unfortunately I didn't see anything new in the phones today to like that would make me want to go with this phone the next year or two.
    07-23-2013 06:59 PM
  19. maxman1's Avatar
    I've been entirely happy with my Maxx and so far, the upcoming Droid MAXX is the only thing that has my attention as a replacement. Having become accustomed to the fantastic battery it's hard to go back to "normal" levels & the new Droid seems to be "all that & significantly more". If reviews of the actual product are positive I'll be hard pressed not to pull the upgrade lever. I do love the design characteristics of the MOTO X but it's not gonna run with the Maxx on battery longevity - sooner or later, I'm betting Moto will spring a Maxx version of the X phone. Now that would present me with a dilemma.

    Sent from my Droid RAZR MAXX using Tapatalk2
    07-23-2013 10:35 PM
  20. Honestabebread's Avatar
    I have a RAZR M VZW employee model right now and will be preordering my Ultra VZW employee model on the 25th. Stoked.

    Sent from my XT907 using AC Forums mobile app
    07-23-2013 11:00 PM
  21. taylorz_412's Avatar
    I have a RAZR M VZW employee model right now and will be preordering my Ultra VZW employee model on the 25th. Stoked.

    Sent from my XT907 using AC Forums mobile app
    Lucky! If your feeling generous il send you my address put me down for one maxx
    07-24-2013 02:11 AM
  22. Mark_Venture's Avatar
    I'm betting the sell a little less than well... here is why...

    First let me say, those who know me and go way back with me remember I'm a BIG moto fan, but will likely also realize my hands on experience since the VCC stopped sending devices has been limited to what I get for work, which while it isn't as diverse, its still a good sampling (at least from Apple, Samsung, Blackberry, and Nokia), and I haven't had time to be as in tune with every other possible hand set out there like back in the day. So a few of these things are just honest questions in my mind when comparing the on paper information from Moto....

    How did the Droid Razr M, Droid Razr HD, and Droid Razr Maxx HD do sales wise against the Galaxy S3? I don't have sales figures, but my impression is the S3 sold more than the Motos because Moto is still in troubles and Samsung has had the biggest share of handsets sold in the Android space. I realize you can't compare over all S3 or S4 handset sales against these Verizon Only Motos, but it does give Samsung more mind share before the customer walks into a store. It is what makes me worried about Moto sales vs G S4, especially considering the S4's head start in the market, Samsung's buzz coming off the very very popular S3, and Samsung's advertising and marketing departments. Not to mention the price point of the Ultra $199.99 vs 16gig S4 $199.99 per Verizon's web site.

    These specs from Moto come across "me too" but without MicroSD and without removable battery, and lower rez screens. The one area Moto has always excelled at, reception, is impossible to list on the spec sheet.

    I'll admit if the device can make it through more than a day on a single charge, and the battery's useful life is at least 2 years (before it stops holding as much of a charge because of deterioration due to age), the removable battery becomes less important.

    But with tiered data plans, having extra local storage for MP3's and such is a big advantage, or in this case, not having one is a big negative. 16gig storage for apps/games/music/pix/videos could be a problem. Just look at the "uproar" in the S4 forums about the lack of free storage space on the 16gig S4, at least Pix, Videos and MP3's could be stored on uSD in those phones, and now Samsung can include "Apps2SD" as a feature (even it it does't really help). So it makes me question how will the Droid Mini and Droid Ultra do with only 16gig and no uSD? example: 3min 40sec HD video of my son taken on my S4 is 400Meg. Install something like Asphalt 7 (takes over 1.2gig for app/data), drop a few MP3's on there, and the internal 16gig storage gets taken up fast.

    The Droid Maxx will do better with its 32gig built in storage, and much bigger battery, especially since the 32gig S4 is not as easy to get (it appears to be online only), however it is at a higher price point, at right now.

    Something else to consider... the name... the out going Moto's are the Droid Razr HD, Droid Maxx HD, and Droid M. the new, Droid Ultra, Droid Ultra Maxx, and Droid Mini. For the Ultra vs Razr, will the average consumer question the loss of "HD"? Will this impact their perception before they even walk through the store's door? Will this hurt sales? Or will they be educated/informed enough to understand its gone from the name only and not from the specs?

    I think you know my thoughts on Moto's camera quality, and how they have exemplified "number of MP don't always mean quality"... Since I haven't seen reviews of their image sensors or cameras for these phones yet, I can only hope they equal what Samsung and HTC have, and to an extent Nokia and Blackberry despite they being different platforms.

    Has moto announced screen type or sub pixel arrangement (stripe, pentile, etc)? I know their Ultra page says "AMOLED (RGB) HD 720p (720x1280) with Active Display" but their Maxx and Mini pages only say "HD 720p (720x1280 pixels)" How will these displays look on the shelf next to the S4 and its "Full HD 1920 x 1080 Super AMOLED"? Will customers be drawn to a better looking display on the S4?

    I really wanted to see Moto come out with something that surpasses what is on the market, especially due to their track record for reception, and the S4 is not so good in that department, but these seem like they just "keep up" and in some cases are still a step or two behind.

    I guess I don't have as much confidence in these devices selling as others might.

    Then again, maybe Moto will get lucky with the Timing of bringing these devices to market. The "hype" around the S4 should be dying down, the HTC One is still MIA, the iPhone wont be announced for a little bit yet, so these Moto's will have the spot light for a while.

    While I thought about one of these new Moto's being my next PERSONAL device, I will keep waiting. maybe my Bionic isn't so bad after all (ok, I still hate its screen and camera)
    GBH2 likes this.
    07-24-2013 07:56 AM

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