10-19-2010 08:08 PM
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  1. Se7enth Sinn's Avatar
    Is possible to go back to 2.1 without loading a custom rom? The random rebooting is costing me money.
    10-18-2010 09:23 AM
  2. DroidDev's Avatar
    You get charged per reboot?
    10-18-2010 09:25 AM
  3. Se7enth Sinn's Avatar
    Lol, no I use it for work, talk to a lot of clients with MSN Talk, so when it reboots I lose all the info.
    10-18-2010 09:27 AM
  4. DroidDev's Avatar
    hehe. Did your phone come with 2.2 pre installed or did you have to do it?
    10-18-2010 09:34 AM
  5. Se7enth Sinn's Avatar
    Came with 2.1, can I just delete the update.zip file and restore?
    10-18-2010 09:38 AM
  6. DroidDev's Avatar
    Do a factory reset. It will restore your phone back to the way it was when you got it. With 2.1.

    Just dont apply the 2.2 update.
    10-18-2010 09:50 AM
  7. greydarrah's Avatar
    Came with 2.1, can I just delete the update.zip file and restore?
    No, don't do that. Big trouble. You can go to Verizon and tell them your getting random reboots and they can get back on 2.1. They were doing this a couple of weeks ago, so I assume they still are.

    Have you tried the sticky'd method for fixing the 2.2 update problems? It has fixed problems on many phones.

    http://forum.androidcentral.com/moto...-2-update.html

    Edit...I miss spoke...you can delete the update.zip and factory restore, but it will only wipe your date and leave you with 2.2. The big trouble I was referring to was trying to flash back to 2.1 on your own. Right now, only verizon can do that for you.
    10-18-2010 09:51 AM
  8. DroidDev's Avatar
    Hold on. If the OPs phone came with 2.1 factory if the OP does a factory reset it should have 2.1 back on it and the OP will have to get 2.2 again if the OP wants it. Which the OP doesnt. I would rename the zip to updateold.zip so you still have it if you need it.

    No, don't do that. Big trouble. You can go to Verizon and tell them your getting random reboots and they can get back on 2.1. They were doing this a couple of weeks ago, so I assume they still are.
    10-18-2010 09:53 AM
  9. Se7enth Sinn's Avatar
    Do a factory reset. It will restore your phone back to the way it was when you got it. With 2.1.

    Just dont apply the 2.2 update.
    The 2.2 will automatically apply.
    10-18-2010 09:54 AM
  10. DroidDev's Avatar
    You should get a window telling you the OTA is avaliable with the option to ignore it or apply it. I do. On my Droid I opted not too for a while. But if you dont want to do that take it to Verizon and tell them what is happening.
    10-18-2010 09:56 AM
  11. greydarrah's Avatar
    Hold on. If the OPs phone came with 2.1 factory if the OP does a factory reset it should have 2.1 back on it and the OP will have to get 2.2 again if the OP wants it. Which the OP doesnt. I would rename the zip to updateold.zip so you still have it if you need it.
    You can't get back to 2.1 after doing the 2.2 official upgrade. I think something about the bootloader changed. This was the reason that all of the hackers using this phone didn't install the OTA. There was no way to get back to where you started from if you had problems. All the factory reset will do is wipe his data and leave 2.2 there. If he wants 2.1, he's got to visit a verizon store...unless something has changed recently that I don't know about.
    10-18-2010 10:00 AM
  12. DroidDev's Avatar
    Oh ok. Didnt realize it effected the bootloader. Yeah take it to a verizon store. lol
    10-18-2010 10:04 AM
  13. racinwarrior's Avatar
    IF the OP did the official OTA update then the phone cannot be returned to 2.1 without the fully released sbf file.

    IF the OP was on 2.1 updated to the leaked 2.2 through applying the update.zip file from the SD card then all that is needed is a reflash back to the 2.1 sbf file posted on many forums

    to summarize. if the OP did official OTA he is SOL. if updated to the leak then just reflash and be back to 2.1 in 15 minutes.

    personally the official 2.2 update is 5 times better than 2.1
    10-18-2010 10:48 AM
  14. DroidDev's Avatar
    personally the official 2.2 update is 5 times better than 2.1
    Not for the OP is isnt..
    10-18-2010 10:51 AM
  15. ultravisitor's Avatar
    The update is fine -- there are plenty of phones out there that are using 2.2 without issue, including mine. There may be a problem with an app on the OP's phone, or there may be a problem with the phone itself. Phones don't just constantly randomly reboot themselves for no reason.

    If I were the OP, I'd try a factory reset using the instructions stickied at the top of the forum. And yes, I would update to 2.2. If there are still problems, then I'd take it back to Verizon.
    10-18-2010 11:38 AM
  16. DroidDev's Avatar
    Phones dont randomly reboot for no reason? My Eris did. But that may be a moot point because it was an Eris. Such fail....

    The update is fine -- there are plenty of phones out there that are using 2.2 without issue, including mine. There may be a problem with an app on the OP's phone, or there may be a problem with the phone itself. Phones don't just constantly randomly reboot themselves for no reason.

    If I were the OP, I'd try a factory reset using the instructions stickied at the top of the forum. And yes, I would update to 2.2. If there are still problems, then I'd take it back to Verizon.
    10-18-2010 12:08 PM
  17. greydarrah's Avatar
    The update is fine -- there are plenty of phones out there that are using 2.2 without issue, including mine. There may be a problem with an app on the OP's phone, or there may be a problem with the phone itself. Phones don't just constantly randomly reboot themselves for no reason.

    If I were the OP, I'd try a factory reset using the instructions stickied at the top of the forum. And yes, I would update to 2.2. If there are still problems, then I'd take it back to Verizon.
    I agree that the OTA is fine (for most people). My phone is running great. As you said, it could be related to an app, or it could be corrupted data from the update's data restoration. Either way, the sticky instructions are the best place to start. If that doesn't fix it, the OP can always have verizon set it back to 2.1.
    10-18-2010 12:54 PM
  18. Topweasel's Avatar
    Might want to flash it with the 2.2 sbf. Loads the official 2.2 unmolested.
    10-18-2010 02:15 PM
  19. t9giese's Avatar
    The update is fine -- there are plenty of phones out there that are using 2.2 without issue, including mine. There may be a problem with an app on the OP's phone, or there may be a problem with the phone itself. Phones don't just constantly randomly reboot themselves for no reason.

    If I were the OP, I'd try a factory reset using the instructions stickied at the top of the forum. And yes, I would update to 2.2. If there are still problems, then I'd take it back to Verizon.
    Agree 100%. Since you use the phone to make money, stick with the official verizon updates and it's on them to make sure it works or they replace the phone.
    10-18-2010 02:27 PM
  20. Se7enth Sinn's Avatar
    I agree that the OTA is fine (for most people). My phone is running great. As you said, it could be related to an app, or it could be corrupted data from the update's data restoration. Either way, the sticky instructions are the best place to start. If that doesn't fix it, the OP can always have verizon set it back to 2.1.
    You're right, it has to be something app related. I brought it back to Best Buy and they gave me a brand new one (2.2) and i'm still having these random reboots.. I always format my sd and wipe my phone what i get a new one, so that post isnt anthing new. trying to find what app is causing this issue is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack.
    10-18-2010 03:58 PM
  21. nedqadams's Avatar
    You're right, it has to be something app related. I brought it back to Best Buy and they gave me a brand new one (2.2) and i'm still having these random reboots.. I always format my sd and wipe my phone what i get a new one, so that post isnt anthing new. trying to find what app is causing this issue is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack.
    Load them back on one at a time. It sucks but you'll find your culprit.
    10-18-2010 11:45 PM
  22. greydarrah's Avatar
    You're right, it has to be something app related. I brought it back to Best Buy and they gave me a brand new one (2.2) and i'm still having these random reboots.. I always format my sd and wipe my phone what i get a new one, so that post isnt anthing new. trying to find what app is causing this issue is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack.
    Are you running a task killer like ATK?
    10-19-2010 07:50 AM
  23. Se7enth Sinn's Avatar
    So far I've tried system panel, juice defender & advance task manager. They all suck or im not using them correctly. However, i'm starting to think it's Dolphin HD.
    10-19-2010 08:32 AM
  24. greydarrah's Avatar
    I'd get rid of advanced task manager first.
    10-19-2010 09:05 AM
  25. KB3MMX's Avatar
    I'd get rid of advanced task manager first.
    +2 Agreed !!


    KILL/Uninstall any Task Killer app !!

    Random rebooting a common problem from running that GARBAGE !!
    10-19-2010 07:18 PM
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