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  1. tntdroid's Avatar
    rotflmao!!! :-)
    With you on that one lol.

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
    04-12-2011 11:02 AM
  2. ottscay's Avatar
    Laggy and buggy....try to use finance.yahoo.com with it. The apple devotees I've come across just laugh flash off. But it's a real problem for those who are financial investors as the vast majority of these websites use flash charts which the iPad does Not draw.
    There are several occupations where accessing Flash based websites is necessary as part of a job description. Apple is stupid to ignore them, and it will lead to faster uptake of other tablet platforms the next couple years.
    04-12-2011 11:11 AM
  3. Bossxii's Avatar
    Laggy and buggy....try to use finance.yahoo.com with it. The apple devotees I've come across just laugh flash off. But it's a real problem for those who are financial investors as the vast majority of these websites use flash charts which the iPad does Not draw.
    iSwifter is defiantly more of a entertainment app, built to run stuff like Hulu, Vevo and a some of the flash games kids like. Aside from that, not so much.

    Ah, ya I have written off the iPad for business as email without the ability to deal with attachments is useless to me. Hopefully when Adobe updates Flash to use hardware acceleration all those types of sites with heavy interactive flash will run even better (or at all).
    04-12-2011 11:26 AM
  4. Unicorn56's Avatar
    Over the course of use, an update, new software install etc... you may restart but saying it's required is simply not fact. Saying a PC gets slower over time because you don't restart just shows ignorance of why it slows down.

    How about before spewing nonsense, maybe learn a bit about computers and oh something like Malewarebytes? That will take all the bull**** and spyware and adware off keeping your machine running fine. I'm amazed how many people talk about this crap with ZERO idea how to properly maintain an OS. Just as all the Macheads that claim Windows 7 is slow, and their PC runs so slow, all i can say is that is why Best Buy makes a fortune from ignorant users.
    As an IT professional, I can tell you this is NOT nonsense. Over the course of time, applications/programs (be they on a computer or a tablet or a phone) will close and NOT properly relinquish the memory allocated to them by the OS. This happens for various reasons, most commonly because of a fault in the application/program or an error in the handling of the process by the OS. I am a database admin and when I have been building or testing big databases I occasionally get a crash which causes my computer to not only run slower but to start producing errors due to compromised memory allocation. A quick reboot fixes the problem and gives me a clean slate. When people call me about their computer suddenly running slower (especially with databases running), the first thing I tell them is to reboot and presto, assuming they have not gotten a malware infection, they are good to go again.

    Again, the IPad is handling much less memory allocation than the Xoom, apparently that makes it run oh so smoothly and never needs to be turned off... but I am more impressed by the Xoom being able to do all the things it does even if that has a "possible" cost of needing an occasional restart. If you try to sell me a computer that never needs a restart, but it doesn't have a desktop and only runs selected apps that never push the system... I'll pass and get one that can, even knowing that it may need more attention to keep it running in top form. OOOH, it's so pretty, does not get my job done.
    04-12-2011 11:41 AM
  5. burwil's Avatar
    BTW, 'financial investing' is more than an occupation....it's something everyone does. Roths, 401ks, stocks, etc. etc. It's pretty important and it can't be researched on the web effectively on an iPad.
    04-12-2011 12:36 PM
  6. silvra7's Avatar
    Mind you I like and use a Xoom, but I am starting to get annoyed by the iPad bashing. Apple can do what it wants with regards to flash and if it was that much of a problem they'd not be selling like hot cakes. Instead of bashing can we stick to comparisons and contrasts. You buy what works for you and the iPad works for the average consumer.
    04-12-2011 12:54 PM
  7. brendonsled's Avatar
    if you guys want to see some insane lag,
    enable the stock spectrum live wallpaper.
    04-12-2011 01:11 PM
  8. blkjck's Avatar
    An iOS user will have a diferent view point on what lag is than an Android user. We all know that iOS is the opitome of Fluidness. Anything else is laggy compared to it. The xoom doesnt lag to the point that it is unbearable. Its actually not bad, but if you use an iPad for 6 months and then jump to the xoom, its not a pretty site.
    04-12-2011 01:51 PM
  9. burwil's Avatar
    Mind you I like and use a Xoom, but I am starting to get annoyed by the iPad bashing. Apple can do what it wants with regards to flash and if it was that much of a problem they'd not be selling like hot cakes. Instead of bashing can we stick to comparisons and contrasts. You buy what works for you and the iPad works for the average consumer.
    I'm entitled to 'bash' cause I own an iPad. And it's not bashing when you speak the truth. Then again if you go to iPad forums they won't acknowledge flash is a problem. It's all part of Creator Jobs' Grand Design. LOL.
    04-12-2011 02:07 PM
  10. jnewell's Avatar
    I just came back from a VZW store where I spent 45 minutes with an iPad2 and a Xoom side by side doing A/B comparisons. If there is more lag with one or the other of these, I never saw it. :shrug:
    04-12-2011 02:23 PM
  11. qnet's Avatar
    As an IT professional, I can tell you this is NOT nonsense. Over the course of time, applications/programs (be they on a computer or a tablet or a phone) will close and NOT properly relinquish the memory allocated to them by the OS. This happens for various reasons, most commonly because of a fault in the application/program or an error in the handling of the process by the OS. I am a database admin and when I have been building or testing big databases I occasionally get a crash which causes my computer to not only run slower but to start producing errors due to compromised memory allocation. A quick reboot fixes the problem and gives me a clean slate. When people call me about their computer suddenly running slower (especially with databases running), the first thing I tell them is to reboot and presto, assuming they have not gotten a malware infection, they are good to go again.

    Again, the IPad is handling much less memory allocation than the Xoom, apparently that makes it run oh so smoothly and never needs to be turned off... but I am more impressed by the Xoom being able to do all the things it does even if that has a "possible" cost of needing an occasional restart. If you try to sell me a computer that never needs a restart, but it doesn't have a desktop and only runs selected apps that never push the system... I'll pass and get one that can, even knowing that it may need more attention to keep it running in top form. OOOH, it's so pretty, does not get my job done.
    I'm an I.T. professional also and, I don't agree with you entirely. I was going to stay out of this until I read your post. No offense.

    I know nothing about databases and, I don't doubt that you may have to restart your computer sometime to get it working correctly. My background is networking and computer repair and, I build my own servers and pc's.

    The common user is not running databases. If a pc has good hardware, kept updated, properly cooled, defragged and, doesn't have a bunch of spyware programs, they can run for quite a while without having to be restarted. My custom built pc runs 24/7 and I rarely restart it. I actually have to restart my Imac more. Yes my pc has superior hardware but, I've seen pc's with less run 24/7 also, usually in business environments were they don't let end-users browse and go were they want on the internet.

    I like the Xoom and, I wish some of you guys wouldn't take things so seriously. I think both devices have advantages and disadvantages. I tried to show my friend - who is a Apple fanboy - how much better the Ipad 2 was for reading but, the Xoom kicked it's butt during my test. It didn't help that I was testing it using Google books. On the other hand, the Ipad looked better when playing a movie however, the movie was made to played on the Ipad. It just depends on what you're doing. Neither device can do fully, what I want for my buisness, at least not yet.
    04-12-2011 02:36 PM
  12. eyecon82's Avatar
    I just came back from a VZW store where I spent 45 minutes with an iPad2 and a Xoom side by side doing A/B comparisons. If there is more lag with one or the other of these, I never saw it. :shrug:
    I own the Ipad 2.....it is smooth and responsive....it would be my everyday device if it did have Flash and Java support

    I'm an I.T. professional also and, I don't agree with you entirely. I was going to stay out of this until I read your post. No offense.

    I know nothing about databases and, I don't doubt that you may have to restart your computer sometime to get it working correctly. My background is networking and computer repair and, I build my own servers and pc's.

    The common user is not running databases. If a pc has good hardware, kept updated, properly cooled, defragged and, doesn't have a bunch of spyware programs, they can run for quite a while without having to be restarted. My custom built pc runs 24/7 and I rarely restart it. I actually have to restart my Imac more. Yes my pc has superior hardware but, I've seen pc's with less run 24/7 also, usually in business environments were they don't let end-users browse and go were they want on the internet.

    I like the Xoom and, I wish some of you guys wouldn't take things so seriously. I think both devices have advantages and disadvantages. I tried to show my friend - who is a Apple fanboy - how much better the Ipad 2 was for reading but, the Xoom kicked it's butt during my test. It didn't help that I was testing it using Google books. On the other hand, the Ipad looked better when playing a movie however, the movie was made to played on the Ipad. It just depends on what you're doing. Neither device can do fully, what I want for my buisness, at least not yet.
    Exactly...I have a Dell PC that is on 24/7 since it runs the security cameras in my house....I only have to restart it when there is a windows update and I am forced too
    04-12-2011 02:56 PM
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