1. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    Hello everyone,


    I'm writing this to ask a few questions regarding a root job I'm trying to learn. I have experience in computer science, but no Android experience.

    My questions are:

    1) When installing the perm root files to the sdk tool kit, is that pc or sd card? (I'm assuming SD, but I want to double check)

    2) How do you open terminal emulator on your handset? I understand keeping instructions slightly technical to weed out the people who are most likely to brick their phones, but a bit more detail on the terms used in the standard MT4G perm root instructions would be nice, as they are slighly lacking for those who aren't developers.

    I hope I found the right place for this question, but if I didn't, I'll gladly move my post.
    12-01-2010 05:07 PM
  2. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    Watch this video:
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    12-01-2010 05:58 PM
  3. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    Thank you very much, Arcadia.
    12-01-2010 08:31 PM
  4. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    No problem, did you get it rooted?
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    12-02-2010 12:57 AM
  5. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    Well, while I watched the video three times, it seemed to create more questions for me than answers.


    Let me fire em off and see if you have a reference you can point me to.


    When he finishes the root, he never says if you need to continue to use the three apps he installed to temp root. Are you able at that point to delete them off of your sd card, or do you need to continue to use them to stay rooted?

    Sorry for the obvious newb questions, but I'm driven to uninstall Rock Band, Amazon MP3, and the other crap they installed.

    Also, anyone have any recommendations on the perfect OC/Volt combo to extend battery life while increasing performance? I'm not looking to squeeze every drop of performance from my gear, I just want to make it as efficient as possible.

    Thanks again for your help Arcadia.
    12-02-2010 02:30 AM
  6. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    That video is a guide to get a permanent root meaning once you get it, it's rooted forever (unless you manually unroot it of course). You can uninstall visionary but the other programs you may need later in the future so why not keep them.
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    12-02-2010 11:03 AM
  7. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    Nice. Thanks bro. One last thing, does anyone have a working link to VISIONary?

    It doesn't seem to be in the market any longer.
    12-02-2010 04:33 PM
  8. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    Look in the video description, there's a link to where you can get it
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    12-03-2010 01:10 AM
  9. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    So once you've seen your s=off and you reboot, can you restore the quick boot option, or does that need to stay off?

    That, and I thought that rooting provided access to delete the bloatware from the handset. How to I uninstall the crap that I don't want or do I need clean roms for that? That was the only reason I rooted.
    12-03-2010 03:16 AM
  10. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    Funny thing, even though it continues to say S=Off whenever I check the bootscreen, when I reboot to the homepage and try to use Set Cpu, it says it doesn't have root access.

    I continue to have to use visionary to gain superuser permissions. Somehow I feel that even though it says S=Off, I'm not exactly rooted.
    12-03-2010 05:07 AM
  11. Jerzyiroc's Avatar
    I'l admit, I'm not familiar with the root process with the MT4G. BUT.. as long as S is off and you're definitely permirooted you shouldn't have to keep going to visionary to gain superuser permission... Have you tried using the app Superuser? With Superuser once you give an app permission, that's it it'll always have permission.
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    12-03-2010 02:32 PM
  12. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    Yes. I've tried that. Even though it says "s=off", and I followed the instructions to a T, I still have to use visionary's temproot in order for superuser to allow the other programs SU access.

    Sounds fishy, but I don't this that just because it says S=Off, It is perm rooted.
    12-03-2010 03:05 PM
  13. Jerzyiroc's Avatar
    Hmm... Have you looked at the XDA thread on how to permiroot? You might find an answer there. I wish I could help more but my gf still wont let me root her phone lol. So my experience with the rooting process for the already complicating MT4G is limited :\
    12-03-2010 03:27 PM
  14. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    You didn't do the process right. Make sure you follow the video correctly. After you have completed all of the steps you should have s-off with full root and can uninstall visionary.
    12-03-2010 06:24 PM
  15. MyTouch 420G's Avatar
    I'd love to show you some screen shots, but I have yet to learn how to do that. My wife's G2 will be here in a day or three, and when that happens, I'll post some vids of what it is doing. The video was followed correctly, and the phone still says s-off, but no SU access without visionary. It's weird.
    12-04-2010 12:37 AM
  16. CBConsultation's Avatar
    Your best option is to follow the instructions posted over at XDA. I have a link in my sig. That's the best way to r00t your phone and get s=off.
    12-06-2010 12:07 PM
  17. cstrausser's Avatar
    I'd love to show you some screen shots, but I have yet to learn how to do that. My wife's G2 will be here in a day or three, and when that happens, I'll post some vids of what it is doing. The video was followed correctly, and the phone still says s-off, but no SU access without visionary. It's weird.
    Same thing happened to me. Download Visionary r14 if you do not have it already and do the "attempt permaroot". That worked for me - I am now permarooted with s-off. Hope this helps.
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    12-06-2010 10:29 PM
  18. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    Same thing happened to me. Download Visionary r14 if you do not have it already and do the "attempt permaroot". That worked for me - I am now permarooted with s-off. Hope this helps.
    So R14 alone can get you a full perm root now?
    12-07-2010 12:18 AM
  19. cstrausser's Avatar
    So R14 alone can get you a full perm root now?
    I think so. It's hard to say for sure because I tried your method (not from the video, but from the XDA post) and it didn't stick. I gave up and went to bed. The next day, I tried the permaroot in Visionary and it worked, complete with S-OFF. I am new to all of this, MT4G being my first Android phone, so it is hard to say what actually did it. I just went back to XDA and it looks like the post has been updated using Visionary to do the permaroot.

    [GUIDE] How to s= off with "su" and how to flash rom---[Noob's] - xda-developers
    12-07-2010 01:05 PM
  20. katx5h's Avatar
    Your best option is to follow the instructions posted over at XDA. I have a link in my sig. That's the best way to r00t your phone and get s=off.
    Yes this link worked like a charm after a few days of frustrated head banging I found it and follow it it and it worked!

    I did alternative using linux and SDK, since my version of VISIONary was temperamental.
    12-11-2010 12:08 AM
  21. BlackPrince310's Avatar
    Now all we need are some AOSP roms. The Sense interface uses up so much ram its ridiculous. With 786MB I should never be below 300.
    12-11-2010 05:21 AM
  22. Nissan4LIFE's Avatar
    OKAY here's another noob question. I would like to root also now that there is soo much more information on rooting this phone now but what I want to know is this...Can I root with a Mac or does it have to be a PC to do it because every time I connect my phone to the Mac I have issues with the SD Card either mounting or unmounting...now that could be a problem with the card itself but I never had any issues with the card when I used it on my Blackberry and yes I did reformat it when I got this phone from the phone OS itself. I also have the latest version of Parallels desktop installed on my Mac with Windows Vista but I cannot seem to get anything to work on either side.
    01-05-2011 03:48 AM
  23. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    If it doesn't work on either side it seems like a card issue to me. As for the Mac question I'm pretty sure as long as you can get the SDK installed and can get access to ADB in a command prompt you'll be able to do it.

    Once you're in ADB it's all the same. The issue comes when you need to install programs to the Mac. If I remember correctly the SDK is the only thing that needs to be installed (don't quote me on that, it's been a while since I did it).
    01-05-2011 11:04 AM
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