10-18-2015 08:13 AM
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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    I want to get this phone, but I want to wait for some more videos and hands-on reviews.

    I am concerned about the 810 processor, the radios/signal strength, and sound quality. I am not trying to be negative, but Huawei is an unknown quantity for me.

    When I was considering (and ultimately purchased) the Motorola Nexus 6, I had real-world experience with a Moto X 2013. Even though there are differences, I felt like I knew what I was getting---similar Moto radios/hardware/software with a larger screen.

    It was also the first Nexus to be unlocked and support all 4 carriers and that was big. I didn't know it would set a precedent for future phones, like the Pure, 5X, and 6P.

    I hope this phone sells very well and am hopeful that more phones will continue to be available unlocked and with support for all carriers, but I'm just going to wait for more reviews to come in.

    Hopefully, someone will do a side by side comparison with the Nexus 6 and I'll have all the information I need.

    I'll probably wait a few months to see if the price will drop a little too.

    On the plus side, I know I have no interest in the Nexus 5X, since the Nexus 6 and 6p are both superior IMO

    Maybe it too will be available on Amazon for $350-$400 this time next year.
    I'd bet heavily that people will compare the 6 and 6P.

    sent via Nexus Assassin Edition. Gonfaloniere.
    09-30-2015 07:25 AM
  2. anon(9072051)'s Avatar
    I don't have a Nexus 6 but I do have a Nexus 5 and for my own boat the 6P definitely looks like a worthwhile upgrade compared to the 6. Bigger battery life, I think a much better display than the dim subpar Nexus 6 one
    Point of order: the Nexus 6 display is by no means "dim" or "subpar," unless the "par" you have in mind is Samsung's latest Super AMOLED flagship displays. The N6 display could do with more brightness when it needs it, namely to counteract the bleaching effects of bright sunlight, but even in those situations the display is still readable.

    If the 6P is designed to amp up brightness in "hot" ambient lighting, as I believe the latest Samsung displays are, then that will definitely be a win for the 6P, and it is something I'd like to know. But we need to wait for reviews to come in to find out about that.
    09-30-2015 08:04 AM
  3. doggy2965's Avatar
    Have nexus 6 will wait until I see user review on forum before making decision.

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    09-30-2015 09:37 AM
  4. syspry's Avatar
    I don't see it that way. I don't need a 'better' camera, USB-C, or a fingerprint reader. It wouldn't surprise me if the N6 '14 is faster than N6P. I'm not hating on the new N6, it's just that there's nothing that important to me. It wouldn't change my life or anything.
    If by that you mean they're not substantial upgrade for you subjectively that's fine. I was speaking in overall terms, not user preference. Those are also user facing improvements, there's also some stuff under the hood as well. Moto's Nexus doesn't have as sophisticated sensors for handling sensor related data as the 6p does with the new sensor hub hardware
    09-30-2015 10:54 AM
  5. kayfaei's Avatar
    Almost this same time last year I got my Nexus 6 through AT&T Next. I'm still paying off on it. and plus I put a protection plan on it through square trade. It seems the only way I would upgrade is it Google let US carriers have some in stock. Doesn't seem like they will be doing it this route though.. and another reason why I'm guess im sticking with my nexus 6 is because.. this is my first time using the att Next - plus having a warranty on a device.. I'm not sure how i would be able to upgrade.

    For those who switch phones every six months or so.. do you cancel your protection plan and start a new one? and are you able to upgrade using the att Next- even if you did it already? In November it will be a year for me. So i guess to make my long answer short.. sticking with the Nexus 6 for now, but i would upgrade.
    09-30-2015 02:19 PM
  6. jdot104's Avatar
    hopefully what you said isn't the direction Google goes.

    will there be a big difference between an 820 vs 830? or gorilla glass 4 vs 5? or 4GB RAM vs 5? just adding specs is excessively unnecessary. I'd like to see them perfect what they have, maybe we'll see some real innovation. simply adding specs every year eventually becomes wasteful. we're almost at that wall right now. just look at computers and TVs.

    audio quality is something that can use much more work. and battery tech still has a ways to go. hour about the wireless quick charge with metal casings, or Wi-Fi charging. that's what I want to see. not just piling specs on top of specs.
    I agree. Progress for the sake of progress will only hurt the people buying the phones. We're approaching the upper bound of how big phones should get. Once you get over 6 inches you're getting into true tablet territory. And a processor can only make an OS so fast. Eventually everything is gonna look exactly the same, like we say with displays.


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    09-30-2015 02:56 PM
  7. davidnc's Avatar
    I'm also sticking with my Moto N6.I read about the 6P and probably will read reviews when posted.
    But upgrade to it ?
    I will pass for now
    09-30-2015 09:56 PM
  8. qnet's Avatar
    For me fingerprint sensor is more important than wireless charger. I only charge my phone once a day most of the time, but unlock it MANY times per day, so the fingerprint sensor is far more beneficial overall. That, plus trimmed down/lighter form factor (but still almost as big AMOLED screen), better battery life (I hope), the significantly better camera, and faster processor all led me to put in an order to upgrade my nexus 6 to 6p.
    The fingerprint sensor is huge for me. After using it on the Iphone 6 plus and Note, I'm really glad the new nexus phones have it. I haven't been following the rumors as much this year so the 6P being all metal this year surprised me. The 6P has to be the closest to the ultimate Nexus I've ever seen. I'm hoping the battery life lives up to what they claim.
    09-30-2015 10:06 PM
  9. Matt harper2's Avatar
    I don't know why the fingerprint scared new appeals to everyone. My phone is within sight at all times, but that's just me. I like the way the moto nexus 6 looks. I always thought the huiei was a generic base phone. Stigmata I have to get over now I suppose. I have the note 4. Wasn't Impressed with new Samsung to upgrade and afraid not impressed with new nexus yet either. Was and have been waiting on new upgrades for note 4 thru t-mobile buy probably be to wait till 3rd quarter of 2016 way it's going now. Oh well of nexus 6 moto gets it before note 4 does may have to upgrade to turn to moto nexus 6

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    09-30-2015 10:40 PM
  10. BOSSY TEXAS CHICK's Avatar
    this is an EASY one! i had the Nexus 6 for about 5 minutes when it went down to $349.00 on Amazon and i STILL sent that thing packing... Too wide, too plastic-y and too Motorola-y & just too "clunky overall" for my tastes!

    Huawei makes some REALLY nice phones, too!

    Here's my reasons to consider the upgrade:

    1. Sell your Nexus 6 on Swappa for 300-350, making total investment for latest & greatest roughly 200 bucks!
    2. 6 mm less width & 6 grams lighter and over 3 mm thinner?! H*ll yes, alll day long! (May not seem like all that much, but trust me, IT IS!)
    3. Marshmellow out of the box
    4. 8mp ffc (front facing camera) vs 2mp
    5. All metal body, chamferred edges, that thing is super gorgeous!
    6. Type C connector- i've been lusting after Apples, "plug it in EITHER way" for YEARS now- Its FINALLY here for Android!
    7. $499 price is a steal compared to $649.00 when Nexus 6 came out!
    8. Bigger battery PLUS slightly smaller screen WITH state of art O/S should easily improve battery life...
    9. G Glass 3 vs G Glass 4
    10.Newer processor & GPU (always a legit reason for upgrading in my book : )
    11. LED Notification light, FINALLY! Ya-hoo!
    12. AND For us "T-Mobilers" possible Band 12 enabled by ship date-

    Buy nexus 6 or Nexus 6p. And why?-band-12.png


    Its not in my area YET anyways but its comin' & so is my Nexus 6P!

    Those are just my Top Twelve but honestly, Nexus 6p had me at "hello" : )

    Buy nexus 6 or Nexus 6p. And why?-nexus-6p-no-order-.png

    BTC



    10-01-2015 06:48 AM
  11. LeoRex's Avatar
    You know, I'm a bit torn on this one. The Nexus 6 is fast, screen's nice, great sound, good battery performance, the camera does its job with distinction, you name it. Like others have mentioned, the ONLY real squabble I have is that they set the max brightness too low (which was probably a power saving measure I suspect).... but my kernel has a mode to allow for higher brightness. Other than that, the Google Camera still needs some work... the N6's camera is capable of more than that app allows. But that is a software problem, and software problems can be fixed a bit (maybe even a little in the upcoming 6.0 release). So neither bother me or hinder me in any appreciable way.

    So I have no reason to get rid of my Nexus 6.

    But that 6P is a tempting siren... signs point to an excellent screen, excellent camera, even better battery performance, etc... it could very well be the best Android phone available, and not just in the eyes of Nexites. I need someone to lash me to the mast.
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    10-01-2015 10:18 AM
  12. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    I'll await some longer term reviews, but right now it looks to be a mixed bag as far as pro's and con's.

    • Overall build quality of N6p is TBD, though I'm hearing some praise for Huawei in general
    • Relative screen quality, battery life, sound quality/volume are all TBD (I'm a big media consumer, so this is critical for me).
    • I expect the camera to be better, and slo-mo is tempting, but the N6 is certainly the first phone I've had that has reached the level of image quality that is 'good enough' for my needs. Would have to be a substantial improvement to carry any weight towards a decision to upgrade. Front camera upgrade on the 6p is substantial, but not for me as I could care less about selfies, etc.
    • Relative radio performance is TBD. Motorola's radios are fantastic, picking up signal in the deeper recesses of my office that other phones have failed to manage. If the Huawei isn't at least very, very close in securing and keeping a signal, no way I'd upgrade.
    • Slimmer, more compact metal unibody is definitely a win in the 'feel' department, and the slight drop in screen size would be manageable (not sure if it would make enough of a difference to allow for more frequent 1-handed operation).
    • Higher top storage capacity option with a 128GB model. I'm still not having issues with the 32GB I have on the N6, with cloud in general and USB OTG for extended absence being a more generally convenient option for the incremental cost.
    • 6p loses Qi charging, which I've enjoyed very much.
    • 6p gains fingerprint ID. I probably don't give that feature as much credit as it should warrant, but don't have real concerns over my current lock system. Not a concern for me, but interesting to note that the right to security you have over your phone is less legally secured by fingerprint than other methods, since police can mandate you unlock by fingerprint, but not by passcode, etc.
    • USB Type C connector being insertable either way is all fine and good, but I've never had a problem with the 6 and standard MicroUSB (especially w/ Qi charging), and I have countless accessories that cater to it (so it'd be an additional expense picking up replacements for the 6P). For now that's a point against 6p.
    • There had been some concerns early on with the 810 processors, primarily to do with heat, iirc - have those been resolved? I could care less about benchmark scores, and have always had fully zippy performance with the N6 (and for that matter, the N5 before it).


    I'm hoping the reviews are generally stellar for the N6p. There's enough changes that if it excels in the 'tbd' areas I'll upgrade just to stay with the latest even though it might not be the substantial upgrade I enjoyed from the 4 to the 5, and the 5 to the 6. But if not, this might be the year that I just keep my current "adoptive child" a little longer...
    10-01-2015 10:29 AM
  13. anon(9072051)'s Avatar
    Relative radio performance is TBD. Motorola's radios are fantastic, picking up signal in the deeper recesses of my office that other phones have failed to manage. If the Huawei isn't at least very, very close in securing and keeping a signal, no way I'd upgrade.
    I definitely agree with this point about radios, especially for the US market. Motorola is a known quantity and has spent years dealing with US carriers and their various bands and spectrum wars. Same can't be said for Huawei since they're really just breaking into the mess that is US telephony.

    Since Motorola was a Google company for a while, though, I'm assuming that Google engineers would have been available to give Huawei people a clear glimpse of the road ahead of them (if they even needed it). But discussions of reception and call quality are the first things I'm going to look for when reviews do start rolling in. Sad fact is though that that is the one area that most reviews skirt over by simply listing specs instead of doing independent testing.

    As for screen quality, the Nexus team that chatted via Reddit yesterday seemed to claim that the new "Nexii" were sporting "the latest Samsung displays." Unfortunately, they didn't get any more specific than that.
    10-01-2015 10:47 AM
  14. LeoRex's Avatar
    Well... the 'lastest Samsung' is a bit vague. But, at worst, it'll be a screen on par with the Note 4 (which was excellent) and at best, on par with the Note 5/Edge+ (which is also an excellent screen.

    About radios. Motorola is known for its radio technology, that is true. They invented the mobile phone, after all. But you have to remember that they aren't the only ones who are involved. The WiFi radio is from Broadcom and the LTE radio is bundled into the SoC from Qualcomm. Motorola's say here, I believe, is really down to how they design the antenna rigs in the chassis (which is, by no means, trivial)... not the radios themselves.
    10-01-2015 11:18 AM
  15. syspry's Avatar
    Well... the 'lastest Samsung' is a bit vague. But, at worst, it'll be a screen on par with the Note 4 (which was excellent) and at best, on par with the Note 5/Edge+ (which is also an excellent screen.

    About radios. Motorola is known for its radio technology, that is true. They invented the mobile phone, after all. But you have to remember that they aren't the only ones who are involved. The WiFi radio is from Broadcom and the LTE radio is bundled into the SoC from Qualcomm. Motorola's say here, I believe, is really down to how they design the antenna rigs in the chassis (which is, by no means, trivial)... not the radios themselves.
    I really like if I heard correctly, that all of the antennae are located near the top of the phone. I know many manufacturers have historically placed the data radio near the bottom because it was claimed that the signal radiation was bad for you when held against your head during phone calls. But I rarely make voice calls anymore, and had issues in the past with data reception attenuation because when I held in the phone in-hand I was effectively 'palming' the radio reception. I tested this by monitoring my phone's Db rating when held in hand compared to when I just finger gripped it away from where I knew the data radio was housed.
    10-01-2015 11:25 AM
  16. Robbie317's Avatar
    I will miss wireless charging. I know they said they did it to reduce weight and thickness plus the fact is USB-C is a better plug in option and charges fast. But I still love the option of just picking my phone up from my desk and not having to basically use two hands (one on the phone and one to grab the cable) regardless that USB-C can be plugged in either way... In the middle of the night from my night stand I much rather just throw it down on that Qi charger than fumble with a cable.

    Outside that my Moto Nexus 6 has been (and still is actually) an amazing device. I'll probably keep the Moto 6 for a little while and see how I like the new 6p... I look forward to testing out the 6p and hopefully it doesn't take until the November 3rd back end of my delivery date to get here.
    10-01-2015 11:37 AM
  17. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    I will miss wireless charging. I know they said they did it to reduce weight and thickness plus the fact is USB-C is a better plug in option and charges fast.
    USB-C is better in that it helps avoid human error of trying to insert it the wrong way, but in the case of the N6p it won't charge any faster than if they had equipped it with Micro-USB. The speedy charging is still a product of Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0, as also found on N6.
    10-01-2015 12:17 PM
  18. Robbie317's Avatar
    USB-C is better in that it helps avoid human error of trying to insert it the wrong way, but in the case of the N6p it won't charge any faster than if they had equipped it with Micro-USB. The speedy charging is still a product of Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0, as also found on N6.

    I was just semi quoting the Google excuse for not including wireless charging! I rarely use the plug in quick charger, I'd still prefer wireless charging but oh well!
    10-01-2015 05:33 PM
  19. drone3's Avatar
    These kinds of decisions are best made post hype once the user reviews come in so you can analyze all the complaints.

    dreaming of electric sheep
    10-01-2015 06:34 PM
  20. So Cold's Avatar
    If you aren't in the market for a new phone currently it's always tempting to jump the gun and go for it but for anybody who is in the market why would you not? Especially if you've already had a nexus and understand why they're great.

    Easy decision for me, I prefer larger screens and larger batteries so 6P all the way.

    For anybody looking for a new phone I would say pick the size that you prefer and go nexus all the way.
    10-01-2015 07:19 PM
  21. aj888's Avatar
    So I'm guessing battery life should be around 7 hours SOT? What do you guys think?

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    10-01-2015 08:18 PM
  22. Aquila's Avatar
    So I'm guessing battery life should be around 7 hours SOT? What do you guys think?

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    YMMV. I'm guessing 4-8 depending on stuff.

    sent via Nexus Assassin Edition. Gonfaloniere.
    10-01-2015 08:25 PM
  23. NewPepper's Avatar
    Took the plunge. Growing up from a 32GB GS3 which I pre-ordered as well. Been a good companion. On Verizon. 128GB Aluminum. Bring it.
    10-01-2015 08:25 PM
  24. drone3's Avatar
    So I'm guessing battery life should be around 7 hours SOT? What do you guys think?

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    Guessing 5-7hrs SOT

    dreaming of electric sheep
    10-02-2015 01:39 AM
  25. sulla1965's Avatar
    The nexus 6 is a great device. With the right case, the phone is a pleasure to hold in hand. The 6P is intriguing no doubt. But I'll have to wait until we see some real world reviews. Basing a phone on hands on vids and spec sheets is not the best thing to do. How anyone can pre order phone without seeing in depth reviews always escapes me.
    10-03-2015 01:50 PM
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