The Nexus 6P Camera - Preliminary by DxOMark

[LezCronut]

If it is indeed true they have the same camera quality, it is a ridiculously stellar bargain for a N 5X. Cheaper phone with stellar camera? Too good to be true.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

For still shots yes. Lack of OIS will make for shakey video recordings and motion sickness.

6P has Electronic Image Sabilisation, though don't know how good it will be.

 

[neo905]

6P has Electronic Image Stabilisation, though don't know how good it will be.

The Z5 has software image stabilization and scored 93 out 100 on DXOMarks and is now the number one ranked camera overall. Every other phone with OIS struggled to get in the 50's or 60's. I guess OIS is overrated.

The 6P's score was 55 out of 100 by the way.

 

[drone3]

Do DXO even compare photos or videos side by side, how do they make their evaluation?

dreaming of electric sheep

 

[Aquila]

Z5 annihilated the list

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[mookiekillsit]

Do DXO even compare photos or videos side by side, how do they make their evaluation?

dreaming of electric sheep

Curious about this also. I've seen a small amount of samples but is there more?

 

[RHChan84]

MP doesn't mean much. That's like saying a Sony Z5 23MP camera takes better photo then a Canon G1x at 13MP. We use our phones for social media, not poster size portfolios.
With a 13MP camera on the N6, laser AF, and bigger pixel size, I think it would be a good sensor for a phone especially low light. Less grainy photos and faster shutter speeds for less motion blur.

 

[Only1Z]

Not to mention, the Sony Z5 and Nexus 6P are both 1/2.3" sensors I believe. So they are actually the same size sensors and they are the same as size as standard point and shoot cameras. Science would then tell you that the N6P should be better in low light with its lower pixel count (bigger pixels to let in more light). Usually lower MP sensors yield "cleaner" (less noisier) images if the sensor is the same size. Software plays a role too, but the tools are there for the N6P to be a really great phone camera.

 

[RHChan84]

Not to mention, the Sony Z5 and Nexus 6P are both 1/2.3" sensors I believe. So they are actually the same size sensors and they are the same as size as standard point and shoot cameras. Science would then tell you that the N6P should be better in low light with its lower pixel count (bigger pixels to let in more light). Usually lower MP sensors yield "cleaner" (less noisier) images if the sensor is the same size. Software plays a role too, but the tools are there for the N6P to be a really great phone camera.

No doubt it will be a great sensor. Especially if it's from Sony.

 

[FrogVomit]

EIS is fine for video. The exposure time can't be any longer than 1/30th sec, so blur isn't really a problem. OIS can make a big difference for low light shots where the subject isn't moving, that's about it.

 

[Aquila]

Updated chart with the Z5.

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[FrogVomit]

Do DXO even compare photos or videos side by side, how do they make their evaluation?

DxOMark is a number that gets determined by computer analysis of a series of test images. So no, I don't believe a human is involved in determining the score. It is a pretty comprehensive suite of tests, and a lot of work has gone into ensuring that the result matches human perception. They publish these test results to get brand recognition for their test suite product, which they sell for big money to camera manufacturers.

 

[lethalray]

Front facing camera = So the nexus 5x has an f2.0 aperture vs nexus 6p which has an f2.4 aperture. Would that mean that the front facing camera is better on the nexus 5x for low light pics?


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[sulla1965]

EIS is fine for video. The exposure time can't be any longer than 1/30th sec, so blur isn't really a problem. OIS can make a big difference for low light shots where the subject isn't moving, that's about it.

Didn't like this part of thier evaluation -> On the downside, the stabilization causes a strong jello effect

 

[FrogVomit]

Didn't like this part of thier evaluation -> On the downside, the stabilization causes a strong jello effect

Good point. OIS can reduce the jello effect, while EIS does not.

 

[Matrix_19]

Didn't like this part of thier evaluation -> On the downside, the stabilization causes a strong jello effect

Good point. OIS can reduce the jello effect, while EIS does not.

So why the Galaxy S6, with OIS , has the same issue on dxomark :

Cons
- Strong “jello” effect

 

[Kaido]

Yeah, I don't see how their word is reliable.

In this test, the S6 was superior to the Z5 in almost every camera category. iPhone 6s was also better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Yxha0-I10

IMO: S6 Edge > 6S Plus > G4 > Z5

 

[Aquila]

Yeah, I don't see how their word is reliable.

In this test, the S6 was superior to the Z5 in almost every camera category. iPhone 6s was also better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Yxha0-I10

IMO: S6 Edge > 6S Plus > G4 > Z5

They let the data speak.

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[Kaido]

They let the data speak.

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Yeah, but you could actually SEE for yourself in the video test.

It's like one test is just theoretical mumble jumbo and the other one is a real world application. Unless if my eyes are lying, the Z5's camera shouldn't be considered the current best. Not even in the top 5.

 

[Shepx13]

Yeah, but you could actually SEE for yourself in the video test.

It's like one test is just theoretical mumble jumbo and the other one is a real world application. Unless if my eyes are lying, the Z5's camera shouldn't be considered the current best. Not even in the top 5.

Don't you know? It doesn't matter what you can see, it matters what the test tells us. There is no spoon! /s

I've been getting grilled for questioning DXO (especially about the Motorola X PE), and I don't really care. DXO mobile testing is a joke, and their testing methods are flawed. And with the release of their own competing mobile product, they should ALWAYS be questioned now. No one would believe auto testing performed by Ford, as it relates to their competitors. This should not be any different.