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  1. KillerQ's Avatar
    Just a random update,

    I've owned every phone under the sun, up to and including the new Galaxy S7, and I can say the Nexus 6p is the best phone I've ever used.

    I'm thankful everytime I pick it up!

    Posted via my Nokia 8210 from the inside of a Kitten.
    04-02-2016 01:53 PM
  2. Seremedy's Avatar
    I have both the S7 edge and 6P. Love my nexus more due to stock android and design

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    04-02-2016 02:18 PM
  3. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    This nexus 6p is such a great phone! Stock Android is awesome! The camera is awesome! The screen and on and on...I really hope that when HTC brings the next Nexus device that they continue the great work of Huawei because this phone is hard to top. I hope Google doesn't allow HTC to work with any camera software in regards to the camera itself. HTC has the worst camera software engineers. They simply can't get camera right and they are always ALWAYS a step behind the competition. Please Google don't take a step backwards when you go forward with the next iteration of this phone!

    I'm sure HTC can build a fabulous all metal phone with better quality standards and, possibly even, design standards than Huawei. But, Google please don't let the HTC camera software guys anywhere near the next Nexus flagship camera. It's guaranteed to be a disappointment, if so!

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    04-02-2016 04:59 PM
  4. neo905's Avatar
    This nexus 6p is such a great phone! Stock Android is awesome! The camera is awesome! The screen and on and on...I really hope that when HTC brings the next Nexus device that they continue the great work of Huawei because this phone is hard to top. I hope Google doesn't allow HTC to work with any camera software in regards to the camera itself. HTC has the worst camera software engineers. They simply can't get camera right and they are always ALWAYS a step behind the competition. Please Google don't take a step backwards when you go forward with the next iteration of this phone!

    I'm sure HTC can build a fabulous all metal phone with better quality standards and, possibly even, design standards than Huawei. But, Google please don't let the HTC camera software guys anywhere near the next Nexus flagship camera. It's guaranteed to be a disappointment, if so!

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    Geez, why don't you at least wait for the HTC 10 to be released in a couple weeks. I don't disagree necessary but that was a little much. Let's not forget. Nexus cameras sucked before the 6P.

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    04-02-2016 05:34 PM
  5. KillerQ's Avatar
    This nexus 6p is such a great phone! Stock Android is awesome! The camera is awesome! The screen and on and on...I really hope that when HTC brings the next Nexus device that they continue the great work of Huawei because this phone is hard to top. I hope Google doesn't allow HTC to work with any camera software in regards to the camera itself. HTC has the worst camera software engineers. They simply can't get camera right and they are always ALWAYS a step behind the competition. Please Google don't take a step backwards when you go forward with the next iteration of this phone!

    I'm sure HTC can build a fabulous all metal phone with better quality standards and, possibly even, design standards than Huawei. But, Google please don't let the HTC camera software guys anywhere near the next Nexus flagship camera. It's guaranteed to be a disappointment, if so!

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    Google should insist that the volume rocker buttons and power button MUST remain on the side of the phone. Hahah

    Posted via my Nokia 8210 from the inside of a Kitten.
    04-02-2016 06:04 PM
  6. TheDonJ77's Avatar
    While I haven't owned everything under the sun, I have had my fare share of devices, Nexus and non Nexus and I am still blown away by what this phone can do. Screen, sound, camera quality, etc, etc. I don't need all of the extras when stock does everything I need and more with fluidity, smoothness and speed.
    04-02-2016 06:05 PM
  7. KillerQ's Avatar
    Yep.... And if there Is something I need extra, I'd rather download an app than have it baked into the system.

    Posted via my Nokia 8210 from the inside of a Kitten.
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    04-03-2016 09:14 AM
  8. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    Geez, why don't you at least wait for the HTC 10 to be released in a couple weeks. I don't disagree necessary but that was a little much. Let's not forget. Nexus cameras sucked before the 6P.

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    Typical response..It's always wait for the next HTC phone to give you a great camera experience! No matter that, it will still be behind the leaders! Why wait on HTC when you already have great cameras on phones, right now..TODAY!?

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    04-03-2016 10:20 AM
  9. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    Geez, why don't you at least wait for the HTC 10 to be released in a couple weeks. I don't disagree necessary but that was a little much. Let's not forget. Nexus cameras sucked before the 6P.

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    BTW, when cameras sucked on Nexus devices, they were sucky on HTC devices as well. In general, cell phone cameras have always been rather sucky up until about two years ago. But, my comment regarding HTC is that they have always been behind the curve. They try new ideas with cameras and they never ever build on those ideas and develop them. Technically, they should've been the first ones to come up with a great low light camera as they were truly the first to introduce the ideas of ultra pixels...But, they got bored! They had 3d and they got bored...They never ever see their ideas through to near perfection. The Huawei camera is what HTC should have made on the HTC M8 and for sure the M9. But, they went with some extreme pixel count camera that absolutely sucks all around. You can wait on the M10 if you want, but I GUARANTEE it will not be up to galaxy S7 standards and would even wager that it won't be as good as the 6P.

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    04-03-2016 10:32 AM
  10. neo905's Avatar
    BTW, when cameras sucked on Nexus devices, they were sucky on HTC devices as well. In general, cell phone cameras have always been rather sucky up until about two years ago. But, my comment regarding HTC is that they have always been behind the curve. They try new ideas with cameras and they never ever build on those ideas and develop them. Technically, they should've been the first ones to come up with a great low light camera as they were truly the first to introduce the ideas of ultra pixels...But, they got bored! They had 3d and they got bored...They never ever see their ideas through to near perfection. The Huawei camera is what HTC should have made on the HTC M8 and for sure the M9. But, they went with some extreme pixel count camera that absolutely sucks all around. You can wait on the M10 if you want, but I GUARANTEE it will not be up to galaxy S7 standards and would even wager that it won't be as good as the 6P.

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    I think you missed my point. Prior to last year ALL Nexus cameras sucked. Finally last year they put a decent camera in but the software is rather bland and it is missing OIS. THIS year HTC is using the exact same sensor that the 6P is using but will have OIS and other auto focus hardware that the 6P doesn't have. So yes, this year the camera might actually not be holding the phone back. Motorola used to have crappy cameras but the Pure is also decent. Things can change. Again, let's just wait and see or last year were you saying the 6P camera was going to be crappy because Nexus' have always been crappy before it was released?
    04-03-2016 11:37 AM
  11. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    I think you missed my point. Prior to last year ALL Nexus cameras sucked. Finally last year they put a decent camera in but the software is rather bland and it is missing OIS. THIS year HTC is using the exact same sensor that the 6P is using but will have OIS and other auto focus hardware that the 6P doesn't have. So yes, this year the camera might actually not be holding the phone back. Motorola used to have crappy cameras but the Pure is also decent. Things can change. Again, let's just wait and see or last year were you saying the 6P camera was going to be crappy because Nexus' have always been crappy before it was released?
    And, I think we are missing each other's points. You are talking about hardware and I'm talking about camera software engineers. Those are the guys who match the hardware and software to create great photos regardless of the situation. HTC is talentless in that area! You can give them all of the best hardware there is, but their software guys will absolutely drop the ball. And, that has been the case with every single HTC phone I've owned from the OG EVO through the M9. I'm not talking about the camera software application on the phone. I'm talking about the guys who tweak the camera performance parameters such as sharpness control..luminance..brightness..color exposure etc...in order to create consistently good photos in auto mode. If they hired some new people with real expertise then I might wait around....but I wouldn't put a single egg in that basket otherwise....lol!

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    04-03-2016 11:45 PM
  12. mayconvert's Avatar
    S7 = Best Phone Ever.
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    04-04-2016 02:48 AM
  13. neo905's Avatar
    And, I think we are missing each other's points. You are talking about hardware and I'm talking about camera software engineers. Those are the guys who match the hardware and software to create great photos regardless of the situation. HTC is talentless in that area! You can give them all of the best hardware there is, but their software guys will absolutely drop the ball. And, that has been the case with every single HTC phone I've owned from the OG EVO through the M9. I'm not talking about the camera software application on the phone. I'm talking about the guys who tweak the camera performance parameters such as sharpness control..luminance..brightness..color exposure etc...in order to create consistently good photos in auto mode. If they hired some new people with real expertise then I might wait around....but I wouldn't put a single egg in that basket otherwise....lol!

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    I think the difference this year is they finally have the requisite hardware this time around. The Toshiba sensor last year was bad and it was missing OIS. The M8 was missing OIS and the sensor was bad. The M7 had OIS but the sensor was bad and had purple tint. This year they are using a reliable 6P sensor but with OIS. You are right about the software problem but the A9 was a step in the right direction. So I guess we are both right. Software and hardware have held them back. I just think getting back to this thread somewhat, lol, that their involvement in the Nexus program this year will refine a lot of their software and firmware. I've already seen screen shots of their camera app and it looks a lot like the stock Android camera app on the 6P. In general they are abandoning a lot of Sense apps and making Sense more stock. That is direction you could see them going in the A9 and Sense 8 will take it even further.

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    04-04-2016 06:43 AM
  14. neo905's Avatar
    S7 = Best Phone Ever.
    Get back to me in 6 to 8 months after the honey moon period is over when it starts lagging like every other Galaxy phone.

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    04-04-2016 06:45 AM
  15. girl_Interrupted513's Avatar
    My chief concern with HTC possibly building this year's Nexus is the battery life. From experience, the battery life on HTC phones is horrible. I don't know who supplies HTC with batteries, but it seems like they always cut corners in that area.

    We basically know all about the 10, from specs to design, but what we don't know the battery capacity. I'm not willing to compromise in that area, especially after using this 6P. Also, the rumored decrease in screen size is a no go for me, as well as the prospect of no BoomSound front speakers.

    I was all concerned about getting the 6P because of the SD 810, but I haven't had many issues in actual use. That's not to say I'm not interested in seeing how the SD 820 fares in terms of performance. Will it be that much faster or efficient with battery with that 14 nm FinFet process that Samsung uses? I need to be blown away by this year's Nexus for me to upgrade, though, because with the exception of a couple nitpicks, the 6P is pretty close to the "perfect" Android phone.

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    04-04-2016 07:47 AM
  16. RichBrown68's Avatar
    Get back to me in 6 to 8 months after the honey moon period is over when it starts lagging like every other Galaxy phone.

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    Well since this is not my forum, I wasn't going to make a comment. However, now in self defense, I will note that I had the Galaxy S6 Edge + for 7 months and never experienced any lag or any deterioration in performance at all. Up until I traded it in the other day for the S7 Edge, it remained just as superb as the day I bought it. I think you're buying into myths that no longer apply. But I do concede the point that you will get updates before I will. For instance, when that Nifty new feature called split-screen functionality comes with Android end, you'll be the first to get it. Oh wait....I already have it.

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    04-04-2016 08:07 AM
  17. neo905's Avatar
    Well since this is not my forum, I wasn't going to make a comment. However, now in self defense, I will note that I had the Galaxy S6 Edge + for 7 months and never experienced any lag or any deterioration in performance at all. Up until I traded it in the other day for the S7 Edge, it remained just as superb as the day I bought it. I think you're buying into myths that no longer apply. But I do concede the point that you will get updates before I will. For instance, when that Nifty new feature called split-screen functionality comes with Android end, you'll be the first to get it. Oh wait....I already have it.

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    I guess you needed to wait another month then Individual mileage will vary...
    04-04-2016 09:26 AM
  18. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    I guess you needed to wait another month then Individual mileage will vary...
    In fairness, if what he said is true, then his Samsung played perfect for the entire time he had it. I can't believe that all Samsung's turn into lag monsters when I see so many people continually buying them. I stopped buying HTC phones because of the sucky cameras despite how great Sense was and the awesome hardware on the later versions. Typically if something isn't working people stop buying, right?

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    04-04-2016 10:11 AM
  19. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    I think the difference this year is they finally have the requisite hardware this time around. The Toshiba sensor last year was bad and it was missing OIS. The M8 was missing OIS and the sensor was bad. The M7 had OIS but the sensor was bad and had purple tint. This year they are using a reliable 6P sensor but with OIS. You are right about the software problem but the A9 was a step in the right direction. So I guess we are both right. Software and hardware have held them back. I just think getting back to this thread somewhat, lol, that their involvement in the Nexus program this year will refine a lot of their software and firmware. I've already seen screen shots of their camera app and it looks a lot like the stock Android camera app on the 6P. In general they are abandoning a lot of Sense apps and making Sense more stock. That is direction you could see them going in the A9 and Sense 8 will take it even further.

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    While I believe OIS is a great feature if properly employed, it's not the end all be all for mobile phones. The nexus 6p is proof of that. But, believe it or not I'm actually rooting for HTC. It's just that I'm that jilted lover that will always be salty for the constant disappointments they inflicted on me. Lol! TBH, I don't really care about the bad camera history of the nexus devices because I didn't become a member until the nexus 6. And, that camera was better than any I had experienced on any HTC phone ever. And, HTC really lost me when I had to start sending phones back to them for repair..I.e.purple tint and defective camera lens on the M8. Both times I was without a cell phone for 7+ whole days for faulty equipment that was not my fault. That's their legacy with me, so yes I'm very suspect when it comes to them working the Nexus program.

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    04-04-2016 10:25 AM
  20. neo905's Avatar
    In fairness, if what he said is true, then his Samsung played perfect for the entire time he had it. I can't believe that all Samsung's turn into lag monsters when I see so many people continually buying them. I stopped buying HTC phones because of the sucky cameras despite how great Sense was and the awesome hardware on the later versions. Typically if something isn't working people stop buying, right?

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    I have been in stores where people simply buy Samsung phones because their marketing and advertising is so strong that people just buy it. They aren't familiar will the subtle nuances as we are on here.
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    04-04-2016 10:47 AM
  21. neo905's Avatar
    While I believe OIS is a great feature if properly employed, it's not the end all be all for mobile phones. The nexus 6p is proof of that. But, believe it or not I'm actually rooting for HTC. It's just that I'm that jilted lover that will always be salty for the constant disappointments they inflicted on me. Lol! TBH, I don't really care about the bad camera history of the nexus devices because I didn't become a member until the nexus 6. And, that camera was better than any I had experienced on any HTC phone ever. And, HTC really lost me when I had to start sending phones back to them for repair..I.e.purple tint and defective camera lens on the M8. Both times I was without a cell phone for 7+ whole days for faulty equipment that was not my fault. That's their legacy with me, so yes I'm very suspect when it comes to them working the Nexus program.

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    I agree 100%. I had the M7 and M9 but I am not going to compromise on a crappy camera again. The rest of the phone experience I didn't have a problem with. If this M10 still isn't at least on par with the best cameras out there and doesn't have great battery life I am getting the 6P later this month.
    04-04-2016 10:50 AM
  22. GreatCanadian's Avatar
    Is it confirmed that HTC is making the next Nexus? I kind of think that Huawei should have another kick at the cat. I like what they did with the Nexus 6P, and am somewhat worried that HTC will perhaps stray from the things that appeal to me on the Nexus 6P. Hopefully it will be an awesome upgrade.

    GC
    04-04-2016 10:58 AM
  23. LeoRex's Avatar
    While I believe OIS is a great feature if properly employed, it's not the end all be all for mobile phones. The nexus 6p is proof of that. But, believe it or not I'm actually rooting for HTC
    I agree. There has been a lot of teeth gnashing over the omission of OIS in the 6P and I figured I'd have a chance to see if it had any real impact. It doesn't. I haven't hit any situation where the lack of OIS had a negative effect on still shots much... in low light, I usually always make sure that HDR+ is on, and that does miracles (the quality of image bests what my wife's S7 can do). And as for video and EIS vs OIS... we have a ton of videos from my 6P and both her G4 and S7 and to be honest, they're all perfect fine. If I was one to take a ton of 4K video, where EIS has a hard time due to no overlap to play with, maybe my opinion would change, but in 1080P, EIS does a good enough job for me to not make any appreciable difference than OIS.

    Oh, and I am with you... I am pulling for HTC. I've never owned an HTC device... but the market is stronger having more OEMs in the mix. Competition breeds excellence.
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    04-04-2016 11:24 AM
  24. Aquila's Avatar
    Obviously the 6P is still the king - but the S7 Edge comes in a very close second and has several individual things that are better, just not the whole package.
    04-04-2016 12:49 PM
  25. dc52ltr's Avatar
    While I haven't owned everything under the sun, I have had my fare share of devices, Nexus and non Nexus and I am still blown away by what this phone can do. Screen, sound, camera quality, etc, etc. I don't need all of the extras when stock does everything I need and more with fluidity, smoothness and speed.
    Totally agree...I think that the 6P is certainly the best overall phone package that you can buy at the moment.It is easily the best phone I have ever owned.
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    04-04-2016 06:33 PM
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