10-29-2017 04:56 AM
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  1. dpham00's Avatar
    Although the phone looks interesting, I really have a hard time considering paying flagship pricing on a Nokia phone... Now if it sold in the price of say OnePlus or ZTE Axon 7 then I would be more likely to consider it.

    What about you?
    07-24-2017 04:19 PM
  2. Aquila's Avatar
    Not until it's proven. The first generation, no way. If they truly support the first generation and then fix the design, I'll consider the second generation.
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    07-24-2017 04:32 PM
  3. Joe920's Avatar
    If it has all the specs I want, if Google keeps pricing their 128GB models upward of $700, if Apple sticks with their decision to leave out the headphone jack (they will), I would probably pay up to $600. So almost flagship pricing.

    IMO it needs to be quite a bit cheaper than the next Pixel, as in $150 cheaper, because the Pixel already has a good cam, a pure Android experience, and regular security updates, the three main things I want in an Android phone.
    07-24-2017 06:34 PM
  4. John Thimakis's Avatar
    It really depends on the features 6Gb RAM 64Gb storage NFC and quality camera plus 5.5" screen then yes.
    07-25-2017 10:08 PM
  5. DJCBS's Avatar
    I obviously would. And I obviously will...once they actually release a true flagship.

    I will NOT pay flagship prices for the Nokia 8 which is NOT a flagship at all. Not by Nokia standards itself. It lacks a ton of features that are typical of a real Nokia flagship like a dedicated camera button, an AMOLED display and wireless charging. Add to that the lack of an actually good camera app and software and that's enough for me to NOT recommend anyone to pay more than 400€ for the Nokia 8.
    09-01-2017 06:54 PM
  6. Morty2264's Avatar
    I find it hard to justify paying flagship rates at all; considering midrange phones do the job just as well - for me, anyway. I find that I don't need all the extra bells and whistles that flagships often showcase. However, I guess if I liked the Nokia (or any other flagship) enough and waited for the flagship price to go down a little (maybe during the holidays or a few months into its shelf life), I'd consider buying it.
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    09-05-2017 05:52 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    I obviously would. And I obviously will...once they actually release a true flagship.

    I will NOT pay flagship prices for the Nokia 8 which is NOT a flagship at all. Not by Nokia standards itself. It lacks a ton of features that are typical of a real Nokia flagship like a dedicated camera button, an AMOLED display and wireless charging. Add to that the lack of an actually good camera app and software and that's enough for me to NOT recommend anyone to pay more than 400€ for the Nokia 8.
    Agreed.
    09-05-2017 06:40 PM
  8. Aquila's Avatar
    Nokia needs to do a few things.

    1) Get rid of all front branding and capacitive keys and front FPS - put that on the back.
    2) Get into the top end specs game, which includes amazing camera PERFORMANCE (not words, performance), amazing audio and amazing display quality
    3) Prove that you can push out a major firmware update within 72 hours of public release. We can nolonger pretend that you don't have access to it for a month or two in advance.
    4) Prove that you're going to support these devices for 3 years.
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    09-05-2017 06:41 PM
  9. Kirstein Gourlay's Avatar
    What Nokia had in their Lumia range should be the minimum. My L925 had wireless charging, amoled screen, nfc, excellent camera and app. These made the phone quality all those years ago and still quality now. Nokia know what they need to do to get back their fans and they need to do it.
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    09-07-2017 02:13 PM
  10. Aquila's Avatar
    What Nokia had in their Lumia range should be the minimum. My L925 had wireless charging, amoled screen, nfc, excellent camera and app. These made the phone quality all those years ago and still quality now. Nokia know what they need to do to get back their fans and they need to do it.
    That Nokia died though, we haven't seen yet if the new company can kick out a quality device. Hopefully they can
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    09-07-2017 02:19 PM
  11. DJCBS's Avatar
    Nokia needs to do a few things.

    1) Get rid of all front branding and capacitive keys and front FPS - put that on the back.
    2) Get into the top end specs game, which includes amazing camera PERFORMANCE (not words, performance), amazing audio and amazing display quality
    3) Prove that you can push out a major firmware update within 72 hours of public release. We can nolonger pretend that you don't have access to it for a month or two in advance.
    4) Prove that you're going to support these devices for 3 years.

    I agree with this, however:

    1) Front branding won't go away. The Nokia branding is what sells the phones in the first place. And when they're on display, the brand needs to be there for consumers to know.

    3) I've got the September security update on the Nokia 5 on the 5th of September, before Google even publish the release notes, let alone push it to Nexus and iPixel devices. So...I don't think updates are a problem. Major software updates can't be released within 72 hours. You have to ALWAYS optimise it for the hardware it's going to be working on because not all hardware is created equal.
    If they release it within the 1st month after Google release it to OEMs, I think that's fair and pretty good.

    4) They aren't. They never said they would. They will support them for 2 years. Which is the time the European legal warranty lasts. They've always said that and so far they're doing it. Though I really doubt the Nokia 3 will get Android 9.0. But that's because of the MediaTek processor and nothing else.


    That Nokia died though, we haven't seen yet if the new company can kick out a quality device. Hopefully they can
    The build quality on the Nokia 3, 5, 6 and 8 IS on par with Nokia's standards. So the quality is there. But the Nokia 8 lacks pretty much all the hallmarks of a true Nokia flagship, yeah.
    09-07-2017 04:37 PM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    I'd challenge then to make a phone that turns heads for reasons other than a logo.
    09-07-2017 04:39 PM
  13. DJCBS's Avatar
    That won't happen as long as there are bezels on the front of the phone.
    I have zero problems with branding on the front. I've a bigger issue with the lack of innovation on a phone.
    09-07-2017 08:22 PM
  14. DJM626's Avatar
    Bezels I can live with as long as they are not too big. If anything I wish some of these new phones coming out would be slightly wider and a little less tall. I'd rather have extra screen real estate on the sides vs top to bottom. Not a fan of the narrow look
    09-08-2017 08:01 AM
  15. TheFunMachine's Avatar
    I'm more than willing to buy it.
    Switching from W10M here, and in fact, I'm in the US so which market should I look at to buy it cheapest should it not come to my country? Which, so far, it doesn't look like it will...

    Currently, I held out on switching to android because all of the phones always lacked something I consider important, this phone checks all of the boxes for me...
    LCD screen, good looks (I like some bezel on the top and bottom), battery of at least 3000mAh, internals that will last comparatively so, stock Android, etc.
    Just my luck that it probably won't be available in the US, and next year's update will likely follow the bezel-less trend (which isn't so bad) with an AMOLED screen (which is bad to me).
    09-09-2017 03:10 AM
  16. DJCBS's Avatar
    I'm more than willing to buy it.
    Switching from W10M here, and in fact, I'm in the US so which market should I look at to buy it cheapest should it not come to my country? Which, so far, it doesn't look like it will...

    Currently, I held out on switching to android because all of the phones always lacked something I consider important, this phone checks all of the boxes for me...
    LCD screen, good looks (I like some bezel on the top and bottom), battery of at least 3000mAh, internals that will last comparatively so, stock Android, etc.
    Just my luck that it probably won't be available in the US, and next year's update will likely follow the bezel-less trend (which isn't so bad) with an AMOLED screen (which is bad to me).

    The Nokia 8 will be made available in the US. You should expect it by Christmas time though, since the US market isn't a priority for HMD (understandably so).

    If you want to import it...I think it will be really irrelevant. The phone is overpriced in Europe and overpriced in the UK. And both the Euro and the British Pound are worth more than the Dollar which means you really have to look at which currency is offering the better exchange rate and from where will you pay less import taxes when getting it from the US.
    09-10-2017 05:58 PM
  17. csetoue's Avatar
    I don't understand why so many people don't think it's a flagship.

    It just have the best LCD of the market, the best signal reception on the market and a very nice technology of audio recording.

    From this generation, I think the best overall phones are U11 and Nokia 8.
    09-16-2017 10:33 PM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    I don't understand why so many people don't think it's a flagship.

    It just have the best LCD of the market, the best signal reception on the market and a very nice technology of audio recording.

    From this generation, I think the best overall phones are U11 and Nokia 8.
    The best LCD on the market? Far from it. Where did you get that idea?
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    09-17-2017 12:29 AM
  19. Toby Barrett's Avatar
    I just did! Not really bothered in getting into the is it / isn't it a flagship argument. It has some good specs - although not the highest on the market but neither is it the most expensive.

    I've switched from Windows Phone (going nowhere) to Android. What attracted me? A decent camera, close-to stock Android, good screen, a good price and good build quality.
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    09-18-2017 06:10 AM
  20. Joe920's Avatar
    I just did! Not really bothered in getting into the is it / isn't it a flagship argument. It has some good specs - although not the highest on the market but neither is it the most expensive.

    I've switched from Windows Phone (going nowhere) to Android. What attracted me? A decent camera, close-to stock Android, good screen, a good price and good build quality.
    Awesome, do you already have it? Any early impressions?
    09-20-2017 07:34 PM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    Word on the street is that the 9 is coming out soon.
    09-20-2017 08:01 PM
  22. DJCBS's Avatar
    I don't understand why so many people don't think it's a flagship.

    It just have the best LCD of the market, the best signal reception on the market and a very nice technology of audio recording.

    From this generation, I think the best overall phones are U11 and Nokia 8.
    Compare it to the features offered on Nokia's last real flagship - the Nokia 930 - and with other 2017 flagships - S8, G6, etc - and I think you'll realise why.

    "Best LCD of the market"...that is very subjective. Sony's LCD's have HDR. This doesn't. And the best LCD is still not as good as AMOLED (which Nokia used in all their flagships since 2013).

    "Best signal reception"...based on which data? That's the sort of thing you can't objectively evaluate because it changes from country to country, city to city.


    Audio recording technology is nice, yes. Still, the Nokia 6 supports Dolby Atmos and the Nokia 8 doesn't? Don't you find that weird?


    "I think the best overall phones are U11 and Nokia 8."

    To each their own.
    I personally find those exact two phones the worst overall phones of 2017 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    09-20-2017 11:04 PM
  23. Aquila's Avatar
    HMD doesn't even think the 8 is a flagship. That's why there's a 9.
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    09-21-2017 12:10 AM
  24. infinidim's Avatar
    I'm more than willing to buy it.
    Switching from W10M here, and in fact, I'm in the US so which market should I look at to buy it cheapest should it not come to my country? Which, so far, it doesn't look like it will...

    Currently, I held out on switching to android because all of the phones always lacked something I consider important, this phone checks all of the boxes for me...
    LCD screen, good looks (I like some bezel on the top and bottom), battery of at least 3000mAh, internals that will last comparatively so, stock Android, etc.
    Just my luck that it probably won't be available in the US, and next year's update will likely follow the bezel-less trend (which isn't so bad) with an AMOLED screen (which is bad to me).
    I switch from a Lumia 950 to the Nokia 6 and have been very happy, the performance is good and seems to get better each security update we get and the camera's are good but not exceptional. Battery seems to last very well even under heavy usage.

    Regards

    Infinidim
    TheFunMachine likes this.
    09-21-2017 09:44 AM
  25. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    My wife needs to replace her 1520 and she thinks she wants this phone. Are we going to really see this in the USA? I bought her 6" Alcatel on prepaid ATT to swap out SIM cards. Very sluggish and only 16g storage. This Nokia 8 appears to be the solution but company doesn't seem to be moving quickly into the Android space. Like watching BlackBerry Mobile rolling out their initial devices. USA rollout seems glacier slow..
    09-21-2017 10:42 AM
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