[IHateMyTreo]

I don't have any hard numbers, just a gut feeling that the battery is deteriorating, manifested by shorter daily battery life.

Is there any validity to the thought that warp charging incrementally kills the battery over time?

[B. Diddy]

Have you checked the battery health using something like AccuBattery?

[mustang7757]

Yeah i would recommend what b. Diddy mentioned to see battery health

[IHateMyTreo]

Installed it and trying to understand all the tools! I'm no engineer 😂

[B. Diddy]

The Battery Health section is what you want to look at, but wait until after a few charge cycles to get an accurate reading. <90% means the battery is getting pretty old, and <85% generally means the battery is at the end of its useful life.

[IHateMyTreo]

The Battery Health section is what you want to look at, but wait until after a few charge cycles to get an accurate reading. <90% means the battery is getting pretty old, and <85% generally means the battery is at the end of its useful life.

Lol, I'm at 47% which, if I understand the app, means that my battery is operating at about half of the original "capacity" - consistent with my gut feeling.

I wonder if this can be warrantied since I've only had the phone 8 months.

[B. Diddy]

Whoa, are you sure you're looking at the Battery Health section? Show us a screenshot.

[IHateMyTreo]

Whoa, are you sure you're looking at the Battery Health section? Show us a screenshot.

[B. Diddy]

That doesn't look good. But wait for another couple of full charging cycles to get an accurate read. Use the phone until the battery is down to about 20-30%, then charge up to 100% each time.

[mustang7757]

2127 isn't your design capacity , edit that closer to 4500

[mustang7757]

To edit that go to bottom tap charging then set your design capacity

[IHateMyTreo]

To edit that go to bottom tap charging then set your design capacity

I did that upon installing the app. So design capacity is set to 4500. "Estimated capacity" can't be manually changed AFAIK and is reading at 2127. I will follow B.Diddy's advice and run it through some charging cycles and see what happens.

[mustang7757]

I did that upon installing the app. So design capacity is set to 4500. "Estimated capacity" can't be manually changed AFAIK and is reading at 2127. I will follow B.Diddy's advice and run it through some charging cycles and see what happens.

Yes you can set it

[IHateMyTreo]

Yes I did that. It is set at the factory rating of 4500 mAh. I THINK "battery design capacity" is what your battery is specced at from the factory.

But as I understand things, the real "health" reading is the "estimated capacity" which I believe tells us what the fully charged battery would be "worth" today - and this seems to state that with a full charge my battery operates today at the same level as would a battery of 2127 mAh. Which sucks.

[mustang7757]

Yes I did that. It is set at the factory rating of 4500 mAh. I THINK "battery design capacity" is what your battery is specced at from the factory.

But as I understand things, the real "health" reading is the "estimated capacity" which I believe tells us what the fully charged battery would be "worth" today - and this seems to state that with a full charge my battery operates today at the same level as would a battery of 2127 mAh. Which sucks.

Ok then thats bad

[mustang7757]

Give it few more charge cycles but not looking good

[IHateMyTreo]

Give it few more charge cycles but not looking good

Thanks and will report back in a few days.

[Ryano89]

Lol, I'm at 47% which, if I understand the app, means that my battery is operating at about half of the original "capacity" - consistent with my gut feeling.

I wonder if this can be warrantied since I've only had the phone 8 months.

If you have a device like the 8t with 65w charging, then accubattery is incorrect. These charging speeds are achieved by give having 2 small batteries instead of one big one. Accubattery does not take this into account. It's only recognizing 50% of your battery capacity

[mustang7757]

If you have a device like the 8t with 65w charging, then accubattery is incorrect. These charging speeds are achieved by give having 2 small batteries instead of one big one. Accubattery does not take this into account. It's only recognizing 50% of your battery capacity

This good to know

[B. Diddy]

If you have a device like the 8t with 65w charging, then accubattery is incorrect. These charging speeds are achieved by give having 2 small batteries instead of one big one. Accubattery does not take this into account. It's only recognizing 50% of your battery capacity

Ah, that's interesting! I wonder why the Accubattery devs haven't accounted for that yet?

[IHateMyTreo]

If you have a device like the 8t with 65w charging, then accubattery is incorrect. These charging speeds are achieved by give having 2 small batteries instead of one big one. Accubattery does not take this into account. It's only recognizing 50% of your battery capacity

Very good to know. That explains why my health readings are about half of the original specs.

[Ryano89]

Ah, that's interesting! I wonder why the Accubattery devs haven't accounted for that yet?

I'm not sure honestly. It's not a new concept, you'd think they would have fixed it by now

[IHateMyTreo]

I'm not sure honestly. It's not a new concept, you'd think they would have fixed it by now

I sent the AccuBattery devs that very question.

[IHateMyTreo]

From the developer of AccuBattery:

"Thank you for your email. For these devices with dual batteries the system is incorrectly reporting only half the charge/discharge current. This means the maximum you will get is half the design capacity so you will need to multiply the mAh estimate by 2 or better yet, change the design capacity so it's half the original value. This means you have to also make the assumption that the two batteries wear down at the same rate but from what we've seen so far this indeed appears to be the case. In the future we will try to automatically identify devices that have this issue and ask users to confirm if this is indeed the situation. We can then automatically do the adjustment for you."

[mustang7757]

From the developer of AccuBattery:

"Thank you for your email. For these devices with dual batteries the system is incorrectly reporting only half the charge/discharge current. This means the maximum you will get is half the design capacity so you will need to multiply the mAh estimate by 2 or better yet, change the design capacity so it's half the original value. This means you have to also make the assumption that the two batteries wear down at the same rate but from what we've seen so far this indeed appears to be the case. In the future we will try to automatically identify devices that have this issue and ask users to confirm if this is indeed the situation. We can then automatically do the adjustment for you."

Funny i got a update today for Accubattery