08-10-2012 11:19 AM
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  1. cole2kb's Avatar
    You are all very dedicated to the cause, and I appreciate that very much, as does those who are reading this thread but not voicing their opinions, I'm sure.

    However, there comes a point where you do what you can do and there isn't anything else that can be done, if that makes sense, and if Koush isn't going to help us out with this, then maybe I need to re-evaluate the way that this forum is executed, what new users are greeted with, and an easier solution to solving the black screen dilemma, even though the steps are easy enough to understand, we have to recognize that some users are just scared of Terminal Emulator, and the sticky post itself is FILLED with stuff, and sort of confusing to follow.

    It's frustrating, because I feel like the first time someone attempting to root / ROM their device, which is part of the fun of Android (in my opinion) turning out badly could turn them off to another Android device in the future, and that's not good at all.

    Maybe I'm overthinking things. It's important to me that you all voice your opinions on this as well, so feel free to do so.
    08-01-2012 12:06 AM
  2. kobequintana's Avatar
    Or we could forget RM (bcuz we survived this long without it) and go to rom toolbox

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    08-01-2012 12:12 AM
  3. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    It's not this forum or Rom Toolbox that is the issue, but as long as Rom Manager is listed as a best seller on Play Store, and contains that recovery, you won't fix the problem.
    08-01-2012 01:00 AM
  4. sammyz's Avatar
    It's not this forum or Rom Toolbox that is the issue, but as long as Rom Manager is listed as a best seller on Play Store, and contains that recovery, you won't fix the problem.
    Unless we all start selling ZV4 screens to people who got ZV5 phones. Hahaha jk.

    Sent from my Optimus M
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    08-01-2012 08:09 AM
  5. dlinderaz's Avatar
    It wasn't until I paid for it that I realized the roms available for my phone were either outdated or for a completely different phone in some occasions. It bricked my first phone, I sucked it up, it was my choice for messing with my phone but after purchasing a new phone I decided to not even download an app that cost me at least $135 in damages for having outdated crap in it. Thank you for paying attention to this issue. You have my support.

    Sent from my LG-VM670
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    08-01-2012 01:15 PM
  6. dlinderaz's Avatar
    No kidding. If if he would accept responsibility and fix and prevent this problem from continuing to happen, I'd be inclined to check out his other products but no way.

    Sent from my LG-VM670
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    08-01-2012 01:33 PM
  7. flapjack.fiasco's Avatar
    It wasn't until I paid for it that I realized the roms available for my phone were either outdated or for a completely different phone in some occasions. It bricked my first phone, I sucked it up, it was my choice for messing with my phone but after purchasing a new phone I decided to not even download an app that cost me at least $135 in damages for having outdated crap in it. Thank you for paying attention to this issue. You have my support.

    Sent from my LG-VM670
    No kidding. If if he would accept responsibility and fix and prevent this problem from continuing to happen, I'd be inclined to check out his other products but no way.

    Sent from my LG-VM670
    See, that's the issue. He obviously makes a great product. There's no doubt about that, but when it occasionally bricks someone's phone (even a "soft brick"), it becomes a problem. If sellers86 doesn't get any positive response relatively soon, we'll be forced to amp things up a bit. Those who are interested in making something happen, stay tuned...

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    08-01-2012 02:46 PM
  8. dlinderaz's Avatar
    See, that's the issue. He obviously makes a great product. There's no doubt about that, but when it occasionally bricks someone's phone (even a "soft brick"), it becomes a problem. If sellers86 doesn't get any positive response relatively soon, we'll be forced to amp things up a bit. Those who are interested in making something happen, stay tuned...

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    I asked, I begged, I tried, I cried, did what I was told. After I noticed it was all in vain, I moved on. But I did took my business elsewhere. My loss became his loss.

    Sent from my LG-VM670
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    08-01-2012 03:14 PM
  9. cole2kb's Avatar
    Hoping for the best. You guys rock. \m/ \m/
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    08-01-2012 03:14 PM
  10. sellers86's Avatar
    Hoping for the best. You guys rock. \m/ \m/
    Guys, its time to start bugging him. He will not do it with just me asking. This must be dealt with.

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    08-01-2012 03:31 PM
  11. sellers86's Avatar
    I just sent him one last aggravated tweet. Im done dealing with him. No developer should not give a crap about his product messing up phones.

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    08-01-2012 03:36 PM
  12. rukin5197's Avatar
    My opinions of this?

    Well, some time ago, I was talking on irc and said something about koush bricking our phones. Jcase seemed pretty easy to jump on me for it and told me that I shouldn't complain, blah blah blah (I have nothing against jcase)

    Okay, so, we can send him a pull request that just removes the Optimus V from the build, if he turns that down, THEN we can spam him.

    Concerning twrp2, I have tried building it, didn't work out, Dees_Troy said it was for lack of mdpi which I think they fixed. Also, s0up, main dev for goo, is a very very cool guy. I'm sure if we could get twrp2 running perfectly on our device I could get it officially put in goomanager. Just a thought.

    Concerning goo.manager, I don't think some people know what it is. Goo manager is exactly like rom manager, only better. not only can you download roms and get updates, but if you press the menu button on the home of the app, you can download a recovery for your device. And it also installs it. That's the functions of goo manager.

    No matter what, because of the name rom manager has made for itself, it will always be the number one link for noobs to try. It was my first root app when I rooted. When out search recovery on google, I'm 99% positive you will see ROM Manager everywhere

    Okay, rant over. Someone fork his repo, take the Optimus v out of the devices, and send a pull request. If he merges, great. If he doesn't, you have every right to spam him.

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    08-01-2012 05:28 PM
  13. flapjack.fiasco's Avatar
    Guys, its time to start bugging him. He will not do it with just me asking. This must be dealt with.

    Sent from my LS670 using Tapatalk
    Right then. I'm in the middle of moving, so it'll be a few days until I can participate hard.

    I think the next logical step would be to try to contact Google, and see what they can do. So everyone start searching for contact info, and post what you find.

    Sellers86, I'll PM you later tonight to see if you can get me a sort of transcript of your conversations with Koush. I'll update the OP with that and the current course of action.

    Good luck all!

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    08-01-2012 06:23 PM
  14. anthonycr's Avatar
    If I had time I'd be up to forking the repo... I don't have time though. Bogged down with work and theming.

    Just a thought: the OV isn't gonna be around too much longer so it this worth it?
    08-01-2012 06:40 PM
  15. sellers86's Avatar
    If I had time I'd be up to forking the repo... I don't have time though. Bogged down with work and theming.

    Just a thought: the OV isn't gonna be around too much longer so it this worth it?
    It'll be around a lot longer than you think.

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    08-01-2012 07:11 PM
  16. anthonycr's Avatar
    It'll be around a lot longer than you think.

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    I hope so
    08-01-2012 08:12 PM
  17. tvall's Avatar
    Okay, rant over. Someone fork his repo, take the Optimus v out of the devices, and send a pull request. If he merges, great. If he doesn't, you have every right to spam him.

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    I'll do that today if I can.
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    08-01-2012 08:37 PM
  18. sellers86's Avatar
    I'll do that today if I can.
    I was going to do it when I get home from work, ill gtalk you and if you haven't done it I will.

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    08-01-2012 09:14 PM
  19. rukin5197's Avatar
    Lol thanks for trying guys :thumbup:

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    08-01-2012 09:22 PM
  20. sammyz's Avatar
    So Sammy spammy time????? I would like to hit him up with some messages and rants

    Sent from my Optimus M
    08-01-2012 09:32 PM
  21. cole2kb's Avatar
    Look, guys, remember that you're representing Android Central here as well, being the largest community for the Optimus One line of phones. Keep it civil, and give him a chance to be convinced. Yes, he needs to fix this, but he also has a lot under his belt and is probably a very busy guy. It's only been a few days.
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    08-01-2012 09:43 PM
  22. sammyz's Avatar
    Look, guys, remember that you're representing Android Central here as well, being the largest community for the Optimus One line of phones. Keep it civil, and give him a chance to be convinced. Yes, he needs to fix this, but he also has a lot under his belt and is probably a very busy guy. It's only been a few days.
    Ok, I'll just hit him with facts then.

    Sent from my Optimus M
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    08-01-2012 09:46 PM
  23. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    Look, guys, remember that you're representing Android Central here as well, being the largest community for the Optimus One line of phones. Keep it civil, and give him a chance to be convinced. Yes, he needs to fix this, but he also has a lot under his belt and is probably a very busy guy. It's only been a few days.
    Actually, YOU represent this forum, for us, it's simply a chat medium.

    While using this place to launch a coordinated attack is likely a violation of the rules, they aren't out to attack him, they are simply trying to pressure him into doing something he should have done a while ago.
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    08-01-2012 09:54 PM
  24. sellers86's Avatar
    Actually, YOU represent this forum, for us, it's simply a chat medium.

    While using this place to launch a coordinated attack is likely a violation of the rules, they aren't out to attack him, they are simply trying to pressure him into doing something he should have done a while ago.
    We aren't necessarily planning to launch an attack. Like you said, its more of a pressure thing. I think the whole underlying point of this thread is to come up with ways to get this fixed.

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    08-01-2012 10:12 PM
  25. pbailey212's Avatar
    We aren't necessarily planning to launch an attack. Like you said, its more of a pressure thing. I think the whole underlying point of this thread is to come up with ways to get this fixed.

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    Lol you guys are going to occupy koush.

    sent from my Nokia 5110
    08-01-2012 10:18 PM
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