08-10-2012 10:19 AM
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  1. dmmarck's Avatar
    He is not working on it! That is the problem! He has been contacted multiple times and refuses to fix it! I told him the problem and he said how exactly is a black screen a brick. I got nothing more from him.

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    Well, does the phone work? People throw around the term brick a lot, and I'm sure he's aware of that difference (for instance, if it can boot up and be restored, it's a soft brick). Not saying it doesn't legitimately "hard" brick devices, but that if it's just a black screen I can see his point in questioning it.

    The only issue I see with the approach discussed recently is that calling him names is not only (1) not very nice, and (2) may cause him to ignore legitimate complaints, which you have.
    08-02-2012 10:17 AM
  2. sellers86's Avatar
    Well, does the phone work? People throw around the term brick a lot, and I'm sure he's aware of that difference (for instance, if it can boot up and be restored, it's a soft brick). Not saying it doesn't legitimately "hard" brick devices, but that if it's just a black screen I can see his point in questioning it.

    The only issue I see with the approach discussed recently is that calling him names is not only (1) not very nice, and (2) may cause him to ignore legitimate complaints, which you have.
    What I said to him was it makes noobs think they are bricked. I never in any way told him it was a legit brick.

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    08-02-2012 10:19 AM
  3. dmmarck's Avatar
    What I said to him was it makes noobs think they are bricked. I never in any way told him it was a legit brick.

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    Ok, well that's at least a good point to be made lol.

    Well good luck; my only point of entrance here is that I don't appreciate name calling, because honestly, it completely demeans the legitimate argument you all have.
    08-02-2012 10:23 AM
  4. anthonycr's Avatar
    Well, does the phone work? People throw around the term brick a lot, and I'm sure he's aware of that difference (for instance, if it can boot up and be restored, it's a soft brick). Not saying it doesn't legitimately "hard" brick devices, but that if it's just a black screen I can see his point in questioning it.

    The only issue I see with the approach discussed recently is that calling him names is not only (1) not very nice, and (2) may cause him to ignore legitimate complaints, which you have.
    It flashes an incompatible recovery on our phones so when noobs download it they flash the recovery and then flash a rom that's probably not compatible and then their recovery AND normal OS is bricked. That said... I installed it on my OV just now and this is what I get....



    Looks like to me that you have to be a complete moron to use this because anyone with a brain knows that those phones are not Optimus V's. I don't understand why the p500 isn't shown because it's supported and very similar to the OV.
    08-02-2012 10:36 AM
  5. anthonycr's Avatar
    Ok, well that's at least a good point to be made lol.

    Well good luck; my only point of entrance here is that I don't appreciate name calling, because honestly, it completely demeans the legitimate argument you all have.
    Ad hominem is always a great way to lose an argument.
    08-02-2012 10:37 AM
  6. dmmarck's Avatar
    Ad hominem is always a great way to lose an argument.
    Yup. Any time you shift the focus from your argument to something belittling/negative as a means of trying to strengthen your argument, you do the opposite.

    I'd like to see this post/thread do something of merit for our community, and resorting to belittling comments, unfortunately, doesn't do that--regardless of real frustrations/feelings/emotions.
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    08-02-2012 10:40 AM
  7. cole2kb's Avatar
    Anthony, it probably has something to do with how your phone is identified in your build.prop.

    Running Mirage cm7.2

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    08-02-2012 11:14 AM
  8. sellers86's Avatar
    It flashes an incompatible recovery on our phones so when noobs download it they flash the recovery and then flash a rom that's probably not compatible and then their recovery AND normal OS is bricked. That said... I installed it on my OV just now and this is what I get....

    Click to view quoted image


    Looks like to me that you have to be a complete moron to use this because anyone with a brain knows that those phones are not Optimus V's. I don't understand why the p500 isn't shown because it's supported and very similar to the OV.
    It's because your on ics, I think. It shows up for me on gb

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    08-02-2012 11:16 AM
  9. dmmarck's Avatar
    You all should be on TWRP anyway, if it's available.
    08-02-2012 11:21 AM
  10. cole2kb's Avatar
    It's not.
    08-02-2012 11:27 AM
  11. sellers86's Avatar
    You all should be on TWRP anyway, if it's available.
    It's not, but I have it on my nook

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    08-02-2012 11:46 AM
  12. anthonycr's Avatar
    @sellers and Cole. I see.
    08-02-2012 11:47 AM
  13. sellers86's Avatar
    @sellers and Cole. I see.
    Kinda weird that it shows it on an s Rom. Pretty sure it checks your board type.

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    08-02-2012 11:53 AM
  14. drewwalton19216801's Avatar
    You all should be on TWRP anyway, if it's available.
    I like TWRP2, if only because they released the source code. Koush did NOT release the source for the "official" CWM Touch recovery.

    Also, did anyone notice the background image in CWM 6? Looks strangely like the iOS notification center background.... wait, Koush owns an iPhone.

    But I have to disagree with the above statement. You should all be on Cannibal Open Touch. We're doing some HUGE things with it right now, just check the bitbucket changelog

    As an added bonus, we have OpenRecoveryScript support so Goo Manager works
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    08-02-2012 12:20 PM
  15. sellers86's Avatar
    I like TWRP2, if only because they released the source code. Koush did NOT release the source for the "official" CWM Touch recovery.

    Also, did anyone notice the background image in CWM 6? Looks strangely like the iOS notification center background.... wait, Koush owns an iPhone.

    But I have to disagree with the above statement. You should all be on Cannibal Open Touch. We're doing some HUGE things with it right now, just check the bitbucket changelog

    As an added bonus, we have OpenRecoveryScript support so Goo Manager works
    I'm still on cwmt. I have way to many backups that I switch back and forth regularly. But if I ever feel the need, ill make the switch. And about the background, yes. You are completely right.

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    08-02-2012 12:35 PM
  16. dmmarck's Avatar
    I like TWRP2, if only because they released the source code. Koush did NOT release the source for the "official" CWM Touch recovery.

    Also, did anyone notice the background image in CWM 6? Looks strangely like the iOS notification center background.... wait, Koush owns an iPhone.

    But I have to disagree with the above statement. You should all be on Cannibal Open Touch. We're doing some HUGE things with it right now, just check the bitbucket changelog

    As an added bonus, we have OpenRecoveryScript support so Goo Manager works
    Let me amend my statement: we should support our devs and use Cannibal Touch . If that is unavailable, use TWRP. If that is unavailable, then I guess...well...I have no idea .

    Open Recoveries are the Best Recoveries.
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    08-02-2012 12:41 PM
  17. sammyz's Avatar
    Here's something to start with:
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-...help-soon.html 3rd post says he used rom manager
    http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-a...ease-help.html
    Extreme Problem of a Bricked Optimus V - xda-developers
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/opt...nd-repair.html post 15 says he used rom manager
    Bricked LG Optimus V HELP!? - Yahoo! Answers
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/vir...ml#post1683710 post number 3 says he used RM
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/opt...d-i-brick.html
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/opt...rick-help.html
    http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-a...ency-mode.html OP says he used RM.....and post 24 says only optimus c recovery was available....post 36 has another brick (I teamviewed that guy and fixed it lol)



    Quotes from website ROM Manager (Premium) Android application - AppStoreHQ
    1.0 stars
    Misleading. DOES NOT WORK FOR OPTIMUS V. The dev should clarify that instead of letting folks blow money on a useless app!
    1.0 stars
    No rom listings if you have an LG optimus v. No response from developer. Tried on 2 phones with multiple roms and recoverys. Waste of money for me.
    Quotes from web site http://www.appstorehq.com/rommanager-android-175586/app
    1.0 stars
    What did do with amazing app ?! I used before was perfect, now for the changes on this app my phone now just black screen on recovery, LG OPTIMUS V..
    08-02-2012 01:21 PM
  18. cole2kb's Avatar
    Thread cleaned, link sent to Koush via Twitter and G+, specifically linking to the post right above this one.
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    08-02-2012 02:17 PM
  19. drewwalton19216801's Avatar
    Let me amend my statement: we should support our devs and use Cannibal Touch . If that is unavailable, use TWRP. If that is unavailable, then I guess...well...I have no idea .

    Open Recoveries are the Best Recoveries.
    +1, amendment accepted

    And yes I agree. Koush not releasing sources is way uncool. Not illegal since it's not technically GPL, just uncool.
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    08-02-2012 03:02 PM
  20. sammyz's Avatar
    Thread cleaned, link sent to Koush via Twitter and G+, specifically linking to the post right above this one.
    I will add more to that post so that this thread is not full of clutter.

    Edit: If anyone else finds any, please PM the links, I will give credit to whom it is owed. ROM Manager bricks only, if caused by factory reset, I don't want it.

    If it's an optimus s brick, I don't want it. Optimus S don't have a recovery for RM.

    Sent from my LS670 using Android Central Forums
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    08-02-2012 03:07 PM
  21. mrg666's Avatar
    I have been using COT and it is rock solid and reliable in addition to very useful touch controls. Everything I need works, even QPST works for updating the PRL's in COT. The only problem is the name. But I can't complain about it given that we got used to a name like "Inferior Human Organs" ... now comes the "Cannibal Open Touch"

    Thanks for the recovery, Drew and team Hydro.
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    08-02-2012 03:32 PM
  22. jonny5449's Avatar
    I'm in

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    08-02-2012 04:33 PM
  23. anthonycr's Avatar
    My answer to Rom Manager. Take this.



    More like another version of flash image gui but its all I have skills for at the moment.
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    08-02-2012 10:09 PM
  24. sammyz's Avatar
    My answer to Rom Manager. Take this.

    Click to view quoted image


    More like another version of flash image gui but its all I have skills for at the moment.
    Make it free on play store
    08-02-2012 10:30 PM
  25. Eollie's Avatar
    Well, does the phone work? People throw around the term brick a lot, and I'm sure he's aware of that difference (for instance, if it can boot up and be restored, it's a soft brick). Not saying it doesn't legitimately "hard" brick devices, but that if it's just a black screen I can see his point in questioning it.

    The only issue I see with the approach discussed recently is that calling him names is not only (1) not very nice, and (2) may cause him to ignore legitimate complaints, which you have.
    Im quoting this because Im lazy and dont want to find hte post I wanted to quote :P.

    dmmarck I contacted koush last year about getting the recovery removed. I posted the conversation in a post on the first page of this thread. He passed me off to his associate and then ignored me. I emailed him and even tweeted him for over two weeks trying to get some information on how to get the device removed. I never heard back. Once they said the recoveries didnt come from their repos they were done with it.

    I am not going to call him a scammer but he has defrauded several people by taking their money and when they tried to get a refund because even tho it said it was compatible with their phone it really wasnt he refused. To me that is defrauding people.

    I also know his primary work is the recovery, but you cant ignore one product just because its a side project. Especially when the side project is how you get the steak and eggs.

    Forgive those of use that are upset and simply tired of dealing with this. Any reasonable person would look into the situation and see what we are talking about and address it. But we cant even get him to act like he gives a crap.
    08-03-2012 12:20 AM
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