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  1. justinh's Avatar
    Ok on the latest build of backside I tried replacing some system apps and uninstalling them..after I do the phone gets stuck in boot loop..this never happened before..ideas?
    01-27-2012 10:57 AM
  2. bornagainpenguin's Avatar
    Nuts.

    I have a purchased Need for Speed shift game I picked up during the ten cent sale and the market shows it to me under my apps but will not let me install it.

    If it matters if am using the old version of the market since I think it formats better for our small screens. The market website was useless, and lists registered phone as the only option (the standard VM670 is shown but grayed out) and ideas for where to go from here?

    --bornagainpenguin

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    01-27-2012 12:34 PM
  3. cole2kb's Avatar
    It probably just won't run on our phones. Theoretically, you could find the APK from another source and see if it installs / runs, and if it does then it's some sort of Market issue, but if it doesn't run it's probably just incompatible with our device.
    01-27-2012 12:41 PM
  4. bornagainpenguin's Avatar
    No, because it ran just fine under froyo, so if it is a device compatibility issue it's a mistake. Also, I purchased the app so should not have to pirate it.

    --bornagainpenguin

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    01-27-2012 12:58 PM
  5. Eollie's Avatar
    Nuts.

    I have a purchased Need for Speed shift game I picked up during the ten cent sale and the market shows it to me under my apps but will not let me install it.

    If it matters if am using the old version of the market since I think it formats better for our small screens. The market website was useless, and lists registered phone as the only option (the standard VM670 is shown but grayed out) and ideas for where to go from here?

    --bornagainpenguin

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    Heres the deal. The game is not offered to Virgin phones. Under Froyo our phones are listed as a different carrier. This issue regarding how our phone is identified in the market has been discussed and trust me it didnt end well. Sadly you will not be able to install the game via android market while using IHO.
    01-27-2012 01:56 PM
  6. JerryScript's Avatar
    Ok on the latest build of backside I tried replacing some system apps and uninstalling them..after I do the phone gets stuck in boot loop..this never happened before..ideas?
    Which system apps are you replacing? Ideas require a bit of knowledge, fill us in here.
    01-27-2012 02:09 PM
  7. justinh's Avatar
    Email...browser..gallery
    01-27-2012 02:26 PM
  8. JerryScript's Avatar
    Please, some details, how did you remove them, how did you replace them. We can't help you without details!
    01-27-2012 02:32 PM
  9. bornagainpenguin's Avatar
    Heres the deal. The game is not offered to Virgin phones. Under Froyo our phones are listed as a different carrier. This issue regarding how our phone is identified in the market has been discussed and trust me it didnt end well. Sadly you will not be able to install the game via android market while using IHO.
    Huh, really? That....a bit strange. Could I get a link to this discussion that did not end well to see if there are any known workarounds for the issue? After seeing how well everything is running and getting most of the cosmetic issues out of the way the last thing I want to do is go back to Froyo, but not being able to install apps from the market I paid for is not acceptable.

    --bornagainpenguin
    01-27-2012 02:40 PM
  10. justinh's Avatar
    I'm sorry didn't realize this was rocket science..I take it you have never done this before..ok I download dolphin browser..don't use stock browser any more..so I download antek app manager..I find the browser system app uninstall it..everything works fine until I reboot..then hangs at boot logo
    01-27-2012 02:41 PM
  11. anthonycr's Avatar
    I'm sorry didn't realize this was rocket science..I take it you have never done this before..ok I download dolphin browser..don't use stock browser any more..so I download antek app manager..I find the browser system app uninstall it..everything works fine until I reboot..then hangs at boot logo
    Its not rocket science, we just aren't magicians that know everything

    Use titanium backup to uninstall system apps. It works like a charm. Sometimes when you don't uninstall things correctly (like just deleting a system file) it will hang on boot or even reappear when you boot.

    The absolute foolproof way to do this is to take the zip that has the ROMyour using and delete the /system/apps that you don't want out of it replacing them with the ones you want, and then flash it.
    01-27-2012 02:48 PM
  12. JerryScript's Avatar
    I'm sorry didn't realize this was rocket science..I take it you have never done this before..ok I download dolphin browser..don't use stock browser any more..so I download antek app manager..I find the browser system app uninstall it..everything works fine until I reboot..then hangs at boot logo


    note- and to think I do this for free, wow
    01-27-2012 02:50 PM
  13. justinh's Avatar
    Its not rocket science, we just aren't magicians that know everything

    Use titanium backup to uninstall system apps. It works like a charm. Sometimes when you don't uninstall things correctly (like just deleting a system file) it will hang on boot or even reappear when you boot.

    The absolute foolproof way to do this is to take the zip that has the ROMyour using and delete the /system/apps that you don't want out of it replacing them with the ones you want, and then flash it.
    Ill try it..I have used several different programs all same results..thanks for your help
    01-27-2012 02:54 PM
  14. justinh's Avatar


    note- and to think I do this for free, wow
    I didn't mean it like that..I'm a developer myself on different things.so I know..but devs sometimes take the users as idiots..if you read again what I said..I have been doing this the exact same way through every build..never has done this till now
    01-27-2012 02:58 PM
  15. JerryScript's Avatar
    You may have been doing exactly the same thing, but We don't know what it is you are doing unless you specify. As a developer, you should understand bug reports require details. No two people do exactly the same thing.
    01-27-2012 03:12 PM
  16. Dannemand's Avatar
    I didn't mean it like that..I'm a developer myself on different things.so I know..but devs sometimes take the users as idiots..if you read again what I said..I have been doing this the exact same way through every build..never has done this till now
    You didn't explain which apps you were removing (until Jerry asked); you didn't explain how you were removing them (TiBa, remove from zip, etc); and you went on to offend one of the most helpful and active developers around here - who is also the author of one of the most popular ROMs for the OV.

    Personally, if I found myself with my foot that deep in my mouth (and I have at times) I'd get it out quickly and start eating some crow.

    That was how it came across to me at least. Just trying to pass a bit of social advice.

    Sent from my LG Optimus V CM7/IHO
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    01-27-2012 03:13 PM
  17. justinh's Avatar
    Guess I didn't realize how many ways you could do it..found the problem..you can't uninstall adw launcher..even if not using it..why?
    01-27-2012 03:14 PM
  18. gantz32's Avatar
    does this work for optimus m for metro pcs???
    01-27-2012 03:33 PM
  19. Conrail16's Avatar
    No. But check out this page for a Gingerbread ROM that does: https://github.com/inferiorhumanorga...rc/wiki/Binary
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    01-27-2012 03:48 PM
  20. MicroData's Avatar
    Huh, really? That....a bit strange. Could I get a link to this discussion that did not end well to see if there are any known workarounds for the issue? After seeing how well everything is running and getting most of the cosmetic issues out of the way the last thing I want to do is go back to Froyo, but not being able to install apps from the market I paid for is not acceptable.

    --bornagainpenguin
    you could edit the build.prop to make the market think you are using a different phone or a different carrier. Not really sure what you should change though, maybe someone else could help you with that.

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    01-27-2012 04:06 PM
  21. bornagainpenguin's Avatar
    you could edit the build.prop to make the market think you are using a different phone or a different carrier. Not really sure what you should change though, maybe someone else could help you with that.

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    It would be nice if someone would, I've hacked around a bit and come up dry. Changing the build.prop stuff and rebooting doesn't seem to make any difference. Far as I can tell from the comments this is evidentially a sore point and since there seems to be nothing to be found searching google on how to fix it looks like I'm going to have to try something else or go back to Froyo.

    Actually since these days it seems everyone is building from the same source it looks like my only option is going to be Froyo.

    Thanks for the attempt to help me, I appreciate it even if I was unable to figure things out.

    --bornagainpenguin

    EDIT: Actually, it looks like Harmonia 2.03 does NOT have this issue at all!
    01-27-2012 05:07 PM
  22. Eollie's Avatar
    Guess I didn't realize how many ways you could do it..found the problem..you can't uninstall adw launcher..even if not using it..why?
    Maybe since it is listed as a system app? If you remove it via Titanium Backup it give a prompt asking if you really wanna do this since it is a system app.
    01-27-2012 06:42 PM
  23. Silence99's Avatar
    Does anyone have older IHO roms still saved? I'm looking for a copy from before Thanksgiving 2011. This was around the time the large file playback bug appeared (and has been in every rom since). If anyone has a copy of any of these roms from early 11/11, let me know! I would really like a copy from early November, since that is when the headset was fixed, and before the bug popped up! I want to go back to an old version so I can get this working.
    01-27-2012 06:52 PM
  24. justinh's Avatar
    Maybe since it is listed as a system app? If you remove it via Titanium Backup it give a prompt asking if you really wanna do this since it is a system app.
    Yea but the thing is I could do it before with no issues? Maybe its locked in now with the new build idk
    01-27-2012 07:09 PM
  25. bornagainpenguin's Avatar
    Okay, having seen the game downloading just fine with Harmonia (which uses the newer market) and having scanned through its build.prop and not seeing anything there that would account for the difference between that and BACKside rom, I had a suspicion as to where my real problems might be from. I went ahead and reflashed BACKside rom, then this time used the gapps package with the latest version of the market. This time NFS Shift downloaded without any issues whatsoever.

    I'm guessing that Google is now doing whatever it can to push people to use the new market (so they can push music and movies) and that seems to have gotten me all tangled up. I wonder if some of the other issues people have had with the market can be traced back to installing the older market?

    I really wish I could have figured this all out without wiping my nearly complete install earlier but them's the breaks. I'm just glad to be using Gingerbread and not Froyo!

    --bornagainpenguin
    01-27-2012 07:10 PM
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