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  1. stevenjbphone's Avatar
    one more question. when i did the first boot i saw that there was an option to hold down the back key to force quit apps..... i said no..

    now i cant find where to change that setting. any ideas?
    menu key > settings > applications > developement - select "stop app via long press"
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    02-09-2012 01:32 AM
  2. cr42ydude's Avatar
    With the new build I went from having 38MB free on my internal storage to less than 1? I went back to my backup of the old build and now it's fine, back ...any reason why this happened?

    Oh and for some reason even with the old build when I hit settings, manage applications, and look at space free it says 38MB but when I go to settings>storage space>it only shows 18MB...why?
    i have the newest build right now. and even with alot of apps downloaded i still have 40mb free... so maybe reflash
    02-09-2012 02:59 AM
  3. cr42ydude's Avatar
    jerry is there any news on ics? i just wanna know if it's going alright
    02-09-2012 03:03 AM
  4. JerryScript's Avatar
    Seem to have an issue with the latest IHO backside build. Works fines for a while, but after time the home screen shows, but i cannot select anything. The lock screen is there as i can slide to anser calls but the screen always show the main screen. have to pull the battery to reboot
    I believe this is an issue with the new screen rotation animation. There is a fix submitted to gerrit, I'll have it in the next build, please let me know if it helps. The issue is the rotation was not checking to see if the screen was on, so it would attempt to do things it shouldn't when the screen is off, causing a freeze. The fix checks if the screen is on before performing the rotation.
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    02-09-2012 04:50 AM
  5. anthonycr's Avatar
    I believe this is an issue with the new screen rotation animation. There is a fix submitted to gerrit, I'll have it in the next build, please let me know if it helps. The issue is the rotation was not checking to see if the screen was on, so it would attempt to do things it shouldn't when the screen is off, causing a freeze. The fix checks if the screen is on before performing the rotation.
    I've had this problem to sonewhat, because sometimes it will freeze in rotation and the sideways image will remain there covering half my screen when I flip it vertically. At first I would just reboot it to fix it, but I realized if I just clicked on an app and rotated it sideways again that the residual image/problems would dissapear.
    Hope that might work for you.
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    02-09-2012 05:18 AM
  6. icemank121's Avatar
    One of the features of the new build removes the script that moves the dalvik-cache from data to cache. That's why less space is available, and while it does fix Market issues that the symbolic link from data to cache causes when cache runs out of space, it does have the side effect of having less overall space for apps.
    02-09-2012 12:29 PM
  7. MidtownHD's Avatar
    One of the features of the new build removes the script that moves the dalvik-cache from data to cache. That's why less space is available, and while it does fix Market issues that the symbolic link from data to cache causes when cache runs out of space, it does have the side effect of having less overall space for apps.
    I have never had Market issues on my phone, and now I have less space on my phone.

    @Jerry, could you reverse the changes in the next backside build?

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    02-09-2012 01:54 PM
  8. JerryScript's Avatar
    Yeah, I think we can view this as a failed experiment. I am looking into other market solutions, will have the old functionality back in the next build.
    02-09-2012 02:04 PM
  9. Eollie's Avatar
    Jerry have you ever thought about creating a poll for things like the dalvik change or what not to see how many people want it vs how many dont?

    Please dont think Im criticizing you at all. Im just trying to find a way to account for the numbers of people that like/dislike these kind of changes/features. I remember the black lash from the bootsound change and couple other things.

    If people use the native app2sd built into gingerbread/CM the space is not a issue. But some people just dont like change or want to take th time to click on two selections and then tick a option to automatically move apps to the sd card.
    02-09-2012 02:09 PM
  10. a5pe4's Avatar
    Haha I guess I'm in the section of people who prefers having more usable space than more perceivable space!
    02-09-2012 02:16 PM
  11. anthonycr's Avatar
    Idk what people are complaining about with low space... I have 21 apps downloaded and I still have 95 MB free... that doesn't seem low to me at all.
    02-09-2012 02:32 PM
  12. JerryScript's Avatar
    I'm just tired of the insufficient space popup, and I'm trying to find a solution that can be baked into the ROM. I dislike the idea of most *2sd scripts due to the issues with upgrading the ROM when using them.

    I am definitely open to feedback on solutions to the Market insufficient space issue!
    02-09-2012 02:33 PM
  13. itsrayray's Avatar
    I'm just tired of the insufficient space popup, and I'm trying to find a solution that can be baked into the ROM. I dislike the idea of most *2sd scripts due to the issues with upgrading the ROM when using them.

    I am definitely open to feedback on solutions to the Market insufficient space issue!
    my notification stays up there. Just overlook it

    Whatever you do ill back ya :thumbup:

    Sent from your mom's phone.
    02-09-2012 02:41 PM
  14. CuriousNoob's Avatar
    Jerry have you ever thought about creating a poll for things like the dalvik change or what not to see how many people want it vs how many dont?
    .
    Wouldn't that mean another thread?



    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
    02-09-2012 02:46 PM
  15. Eollie's Avatar
    I'm just tired of the insufficient space popup, and I'm trying to find a solution that can be baked into the ROM. I dislike the idea of most *2sd scripts due to the issues with upgrading the ROM when using them.

    I am definitely open to feedback on solutions to the Market insufficient space issue!
    Built into the gingerbread roms and with enhanced function of Cm you can move apps to your sd card. There is the option to select the default location within the CM settings.

    I know you dislike the idea of the 2sd scripts, but with the limited amount of space its almost a necessary animal. If people understand how they work and what to do when updating to a new rom they are nice to have. Plus there is no more insufficient space or low memory popups.
    02-09-2012 03:00 PM
  16. andel7539's Avatar
    Idk what people are complaining about with low space... I have 21 apps downloaded and I still have 95 MB free... that doesn't seem low to me at all.
    As of right now, I have 15 apps installed, few of which are on the SD card, and have 111MB free. With them off the SD, 85MB. I haven't cleared the cache off the apps.
    02-09-2012 04:12 PM
  17. thewraith420's Avatar
    I have 61 apps with 86.9 mb free useing dta2sd

    IHO Unofficial CM7. 2
    BACKside IHO 12212011
    02-09-2012 06:21 PM
  18. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    Jerry have you ever thought about creating a poll for things like the dalvik change or what not to see how many people want it vs how many dont?
    Depends on his reason for building.
    My roms have always been based around what I wanted, if others liked them, great. His are probably similar. It may sound selfish, but considering the effort put into them, there is nothing selfish about it.
    02-09-2012 06:55 PM
  19. anthonycr's Avatar
    Depends on his reason for building.
    My roms have always been based around what I wanted, if others liked them, great. His are probably similar. It may sound selfish, but considering the effort put into them, there is nothing selfish about it.
    It doesn't sound selfish at all
    I'm just thankful that people will build roms because I dont have the resources or time to learn it myself.
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    02-09-2012 07:33 PM
  20. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    It doesn't sound selfish at all
    I'm just thankful that people will build roms because I dont have the resources or time to learn it myself.
    The amount of skill and learning depends on your method of building it.
    Most of my roms were built by messing around with previously built roms, just copy files in and out of the zip and re-sign it. Most Froyo roms were built that way. This method can be as simple or difficult as you decide to make it.

    Building IHO isn't hard, it's learning how to modify it and get the build to start that is difficult, but there is nothing to stop you from building a stock IHO build and then using the previously mentioned method, which is exactly how Harmonia is built these days using a Mrg666 generic IHO build.

    Time in another variable.
    Adding or removing an app or two is quick and easy, 2 minutes, including re-signing. The deeper you go, the longer it takes and the more trouble shooting it requires.


    All of that often pales in comparison to the amount of time you spend supporting others using it.
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    02-09-2012 07:41 PM
  21. CuriousNoob's Avatar
    The amount of skill and learning depends on your method of building it.
    Most of my roms were built by messing around with previously built roms, just copy files in and out of the zip and re-sign it. Most Froyo roms were built that way. This method can be as simple or difficult as you decide to make it.

    Building IHO isn't hard, it's learning how to modify it and get the build to start that is difficult, but there is nothing to stop you from building a stock IHO build and then using the previously mentioned method, which is exactly how Harmonia is built these days using a Mrg666 generic IHO build.

    Time in another variable.
    Adding or removing an app or two is quick and easy, 2 minutes, including re-signing. The deeper you go, the longer it takes and the more trouble shooting it requires.


    All of that often pales in comparison to the amount of time you spend supporting others using it.
    I just noticed you had a EVO, and a semi-retired V, so will you be leaving us soon?
    02-09-2012 08:07 PM
  22. Eollie's Avatar
    Depends on his reason for building.
    My roms have always been based around what I wanted, if others liked them, great. His are probably similar. It may sound selfish, but considering the effort put into them, there is nothing selfish about it.
    The only reason I ask is it seems people about stuff he adds that are suppose to help with certain issues or are just cosmetic changes. Initially I think he said he was going to do this just as a side project that honestly appears to have turned into a second job lol.

    I only suggested that as a way to avoid the omg why do i no more have space??!!!??? posts. Or the OMG MY PHONE REBOOTED AND THAT BOOTSOUND ALMOST GOT ME FIRED/KICKED OUT OF CLASS.
    LeslieAnn and JerryScript like this.
    02-09-2012 08:08 PM
  23. anthonycr's Avatar
    The amount of skill and learning depends on your method of building it.
    Most of my roms were built by messing around with previously built roms, just copy files in and out of the zip and re-sign it. Most Froyo roms were built that way. This method can be as simple or difficult as you decide to make it.

    Building IHO isn't hard, it's learning how to modify it and get the build to start that is difficult, but there is nothing to stop you from building a stock IHO build and then using the previously mentioned method, which is exactly how Harmonia is built these days using a Mrg666 generic IHO build.

    Time in another variable.
    Adding or removing an app or two is quick and easy, 2 minutes, including re-signing. The deeper you go, the longer it takes and the more trouble shooting it requires.


    All of that often pales in comparison to the amount of time you spend supporting others using it.
    Well when you put it that way... I technically am running my own rom. I take jerrys backside rom, tear it open and replace some system files (like adw with my own modified stock) and theme up the status icons and drop down to be a little nicer looking. I guess what I should have said is that I can't build from source code like jerry does at most I would be making a rip-off rom of someone elses... unless that counts.
    02-09-2012 08:57 PM
  24. EpicSilver's Avatar
    does anyone know how to fix the wifi so it doesnt turn off everytime i lock my phone... It gets annoying because i get many notifications through wifi but it auto closes everytime i lock it.. I do have an auto killer app but i dont know if that affects that
    02-09-2012 09:37 PM
  25. Dannemand's Avatar
    ^^^
    In the Wifi Settings menu, press menu key, Advanced -> Wifi Sleep Policy.

    Edit: I set mine to Never because 3G at home is very flaky (jumps between two towers). Keeping it on wifi when the screen is off more than doubles my battery life.

    Sent from my LG Optimus V CM7/IHO
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    02-09-2012 09:43 PM
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