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  1. dobbs69's Avatar
    Tried fix_permissions.Still reboots when I get text

    Now it's happening on cm7
    Just happened again while trying to edit this post. Is there any way to revert to zv5?
    04-08-2012 08:00 AM
  2. brotherswing's Avatar
    Tried fix_permissions.Still reboots when I get text

    Now it's happening on cm7
    Just happened again while trying to edit this post. Is there any way to revert to zv5?
    No, flashing the radio is one of the only things that can't be undone.

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    04-08-2012 08:27 AM
  3. dobbs69's Avatar
    I was afraid of that. I'm thinking of taking it back to best buy and showing them my reboot problem. Maybe they will replace my phone. I've only had it for two weeks.
    04-08-2012 08:34 AM
  4. Dannemand's Avatar
    I doubt if the radio is causing any reboots.
    I agree with that logic, Jerry, particularly that the radio itself cannot cause reboots. But there seems to be growing evidence that the combination of IHO and a (properly) updated radio IS causing reboots. And it's not arbitrary reboots using any kind of apps, it's on sending/receiving SMS and on airplane mode cycling. Possibly other actions too that use the cell radio.

    I started as a programmer 32 years ago, I know where to look if things get wonky. You've not seen me complain about instability ever, since I first came to IHO in Sep/Oct. But this one has a different feel to it.

    So far I'm thinking PRL is not affecting this - which I did suspect for a moment. I'll be doing more studies, including a complete reflash and rebuild (as I see some have already done). But not until Mon pm. Today is wife day!
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    04-08-2012 08:55 AM
  5. drezliok's Avatar
    I agree with that logic, Jerry, particularly that the radio itself cannot cause reboots. But there seems to be growing evidence that the combination of IHO and a (properly) updated radio IS causing reboots. And it's not arbitrary reboots using any kind of apps, it's on sending/receiving SMS and on airplane mode cycling. Possibly other actions too that use the cell radio.

    I started as a programmer 32 years ago, I know where to look if things get wonky. You've not seen me complain about instability ever, since I first came to IHO in Sep/Oct. But this one has a different feel to it.

    So far I'm thinking PRL is not affecting this - which I did suspect for a moment. I'll be doing more studies, including a complete reflash and rebuild (as I see some have already done). But not until Mon pm. Today is wife day!
    He should flash the stock update again. Then reboot and flash it a second time to insure radio updated.
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    If it were me I would run stock for a few days and see if it happens again. After passing that test I'd root and install a fresh copy of IHO making sure the md5 matches.

    I have a properly updated phone, rerooted and happily running IHO. There are too many variables to trouble shoot with out stepping back and removing elements. Since the phone is 2 weeks old it could be hardware issue with the new radio firmware.

    I believe its poppycock to say IHO has issues with the new radio.
    04-08-2012 09:44 AM
  6. brotherswing's Avatar
    For the record, I ran the update and I'm on an IHO Rom without any reboots or stability issues. Then again, I didn't just use the radio flash (tried, didn't flash) I did the full update then used the Gordita exploit.

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    04-08-2012 09:54 AM
  7. Anonymo's Avatar
    The radio update is part of VM plan to eliminate the Optimus V and make us all upgrade to the newer phones.
    04-08-2012 09:55 AM
  8. brotherswing's Avatar
    The radio update is part of VM plan to eliminate the Optimus V and make us all upgrade to the newer phones.
    How do you figure? They don't care what handset we use, from the network side they all look the same. If I could convince them to activate my old Treo 650 it wouldn't look any different from an Android, iPhone, WebOS, or winmo device.

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    04-08-2012 10:19 AM
  9. Dannemand's Avatar
    He should flash the stock update again. Then reboot and flash it a second time to insure radio updated.
    :
    If it were me I would run stock for a few days and see if it happens again. After passing that test I'd root and install a fresh copy of IHO making sure the md5 matches.

    I have a properly updated phone, rerooted and happily running IHO. There are too many variables to trouble shoot with out stepping back and removing elements. Since the phone is 2 weeks old it could be hardware issue with the new radio firmware.

    I believe its poppycock to say IHO has issues with the new radio.
    You just jumped in here and clearly missed the context of earlier posts on this subject, from me and others:

    I did do the full update twice, that's what I refer to as a "properly" updated radio, one where we can verify ZV9.

    And I am specifically NOT claiming conclusively that everybody that run IHO has stability problems (noting there are posts to both effects). I went out of my way to say there is "growing evidence" because several posters have very similar issues. And they are not the same kind of old issues that fill the IHO thread.

    And I said I'd be doing more tests myself, including a complete reflash and reinstall - which is what you so cleverly advise me to do.

    So give me a break, please.
    04-08-2012 10:30 AM
  10. Dannemand's Avatar
    For the record, I ran the update and I'm on an IHO Rom without any reboots or stability issues. Then again, I didn't just use the radio flash (tried, didn't flash) I did the full update then used the Gordita exploit.

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    Thanks, brother. Yes, that's what I and several others did too. And some of us get these weird and very specific symptoms, others don't.

    Saw you writeup, BTW, nice job!
    04-08-2012 10:33 AM
  11. drezliok's Avatar
    You just jumped in here and clearly missed the context of earlier posts on this subject, from me and others:

    I did do the full update twice, that's what I refer to as a "properly" updated radio, one where we can verify ZV9.

    And I am specifically NOT claiming conclusively that everybody that run IHO has stability problems (noting there are posts to both effects). I went out of my way to say there is "growing evidence" because several posters have very similar issues. And they are not the same kind of old issues that fill the IHO thread.

    And I said I'd be doing more tests myself, including a complete reflash and reinstall - which is what you so cleverly advise me to do.

    So give me a break, please.
    Kitkat? Sorry, I did have it out of context.

    I was having some odd issues too right after updating. Turned out my sdcard needed to be repartitioned. I wanted to blame the update. Hopefully my sdcard isn't going bad.
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    04-08-2012 10:41 AM
  12. brotherswing's Avatar
    Thanks, I'll be editing it to clarify some things and then I'll post it here as well. I just have to budget my time carefully. My baby boy is three months old and colicky, so half my posts are typed with one thumb (with 13lbs of 90dB screaming in my left ear.)

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    04-08-2012 10:44 AM
  13. Eollie's Avatar
    Jerry its true a phone shouldnt be getting reboots because of the radio update. However another process can get out of whack and cause the reboots. If the signal fluctuates during incoming calls, texts use of data can cause it to freak out and trigger a reboot because it thinks something fatal has happened.
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    04-08-2012 10:44 AM
  14. cole2kb's Avatar
    It's a problem I can live with as long as it doesn't get worse. Didn't have any reboots yesterday, and certainly enjoying my MUCH better reception.
    04-08-2012 11:14 AM
  15. Dannemand's Avatar
    I am thinking maybe some of the libraries we use in the ROM (or kernel) to access radio features were ones we inherited from LG or VMU. They could've been updated along with ZV9 in the new stock ROM. Pure speculation on my part.

    As drez mentioned, one way to find out is run that new stock for a few days - but I'm not that desperate yet

    Like cole, I've only seen a few reboots so far. That's too many already, but not enough to make me give up the IHO goodness.

    Edit: just a note that my library speculation above doesn't explain why some see these issues while others don't. I'm aware of that...
    04-08-2012 12:07 PM
  16. CuriousNoob's Avatar
    I'm gonna do some testing..... When I got this refurbished OV, I cpuld overclock to 825. Was stable. Then I flashed radio update and can't overclock passed 600. Heck, 600, I get freezing problems sometime.


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    04-08-2012 12:32 PM
  17. thewraith420's Avatar
    The part that gets me is that not everyone is having problems

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    04-08-2012 03:43 PM
  18. rebel69ization's Avatar
    I was wondering, can I flash iho recovery, do the radio update, then flash touch recovery back on the ov? Because I'm currently using touch and I really like it.

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    04-08-2012 04:07 PM
  19. tvall's Avatar
    I was wondering, can I flash iho recovery, do the radio update, then flash touch recovery back on the ov? Because I'm currently using touch and I really like it.

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    Yes.
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    04-08-2012 04:15 PM
  20. curtis1973's Avatar
    i installed this update yesterday and im using iho primarily without any adverse effects. no rebooting,fc's...nothing really. cant really say the update did much for me but it didnt hurt anything that i can see.
    04-08-2012 04:22 PM
  21. Dannemand's Avatar
    The part that gets me is that not everyone is having problems
    I know, it's frustrating. You'd think if it really IS the radio, that it would affect all. On the other hand, if it is NOT the radio, you'd only see the usual percentage of random issues from bad downloads, bad flashes, etc, not all these cell related reboots.

    That reminds me: I wanted to compare MD5 of my VMU update.zip with some who've had no problems. Since VMU doesn't show checksums on their website, there was no way to verify the download. I no longer have it on my SD card, but will update this post with my MD5 when I get back to my PC.

    Thanks

    Edit: The MD5 of my download of VMU update.zip is: ad43529491d373be1c6fde88aa9110d7
    04-08-2012 04:28 PM
  22. cole2kb's Avatar
    Dannemand: Maybe one of us can try re-flashing the full update and running stock. I haven't had any issues today really though, so I'd rather not go through it unless it happens again or gets worse.

    Maybe something to consider: are you using the stock messaging app? I'm using GoSMS and have never stopped.
    04-08-2012 04:34 PM
  23. rebel69ization's Avatar
    I flashed iho recovery then radio update and flashed touch recovery back, no problems here. Currently running interactive x min-480 max-825

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    04-08-2012 04:46 PM
  24. Dannemand's Avatar
    Dannemand: Maybe one of us can try re-flashing the full update and running stock. I haven't had any issues today really though, so I'd rather not go through it unless it happens again or gets worse.

    Maybe something to consider: are you using the stock messaging app? I'm using GoSMS and have never stopped.
    Yeah I use stock messaging. The fact that we got reboots in two different SMS apps is another sign.

    Tomorrow afternoon I'll try some things. First do a fresh install of MiRaGe and see if I can even reproduce the issue. If not, that would close the case for me: Either it was a bad nandroid backup/restore OR some system data needs to be rebuild with ZV9 running, and restoring old ones is the culprit. The fact that several have tried fresh installs already AND that updating stock-to-stock (without wiping old data) is the official VMU route, indicates to me that this probably won't help -- but it would be great if it does.

    Next I'll try the full update.zip again (twice) AND restore my previous nandroid again (the one I last restored). Of course Gordita exploit and all in between. I'll probably also try to rewrite my current PRL 60686. Only if those all fail will I try running stock for awhile (Drezliok suggsted that too). Of course I prefer to avoid that

    My goal tomorrow will be to reproduce and locate the problem -- more than just to get a stable phone. Any input fom others greatly appreciated!
    04-08-2012 04:50 PM
  25. thewraith420's Avatar
    I know, it's frustrating. You'd think if it really IS the radio, that it would affect all. On the other hand, if it is NOT the radio, you'd only see the usual percentage of random issues from bad downloads, bad flashes, etc, not all these cell related reboots.

    That reminds me: I wanted to compare MD5 of my VMU update.zip with some who've had no problems. Since VMU doesn't show checksums on their website, there was no way to verify the download. I no longer have it on my SD card, but will update this post with my MD5 when I get back to my PC.

    Thanks

    Edit: The MD5 of my download of VMU update.zip is: ad43529491d373be1c6fde88aa9110d7
    ad43529491d373be1c6fde88aa9110d7

    Same here..

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    04-08-2012 04:52 PM
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