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  1. Dannemand's Avatar
    For those who just joined and may be wondering:

    Simply flashing the radio-only update posted by LeslieAnn in the OP is not what's causing the reboot issue that some of us are discussing. But because there are signs that maybe those simple flashes don't really update the radio after all (though they have no harmful effect either) some of us have taken the route of running the full VMU update and re-rooting our phones. And that's where some -- but NOT all -- have seen reboot issues after going back to IHO.

    As long as you avoid Touch and Multi-ROM recoveries, there is no indication that flashing LeslieAnn's radio-only update should cause any bad effects.
    04-08-2012 04:56 PM
  2. davidh44's Avatar
    For those who just joined and may be wondering:

    Simply flashing the radio-only update posted by LeslieAnn in the OP is not what's causing the reboot issue that some of us are discussing. But because there are signs that maybe those simple flashes don't really update the radio after all (though they have no harmful effect either) some of us have taken the route of running the full VMU update and re-rooting our phones. And that's where some -- but NOT all -- have seen reboot issues after going back to IHO.

    As long as you avoid Touch and Multi-ROM recoveries, there is no indication that flashing LeslieAnn's radio-only update should cause any bad effects.
    Seemingly no issues here doing the full update path and restoring a nandroid of Harmonia 2.03. But comparing 2 OV phones side by side for a weekend, ZV4 vs. ZV9, in a low signal area (-96 to -100 dBm) shows no apparent improvement in the ZV9's radio performance. I wonder if others have seen a tangible improvement outside of regular variance.
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    04-08-2012 05:15 PM
  3. rebel69ization's Avatar
    Mine still shows low signal but when I make a call it sounds a little clearer so any gain is a plus I guess.

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5
    04-08-2012 05:22 PM
  4. brotherswing's Avatar
    I haven't really. I thought I had, but further testing shows the same signal I've always had. To be fair though, NOBODY around my area has decent coverage.

    Sent from the BACKside of Tapatalk
    04-08-2012 05:26 PM
  5. JerryScript's Avatar
    I can now say that flashing the radio by itself will not update the radio. I spent the weekend investigating the recovery code, and found that the radio is installed by the firmware during reboot after flashing the full update. Just flashing the radio will not work, regardless of which recovery you are using (even stock).

    For those interested, check the source code for
    /bootable/recovery/recovery.c
    /bootable/recovery/install.c
    /bootable/recovery/firmware.c

    There is the possiblity VM/LGE has added some extra device specific code, though it doesn't "look" that way.

    The only way to flash the radio is to flash the full VM security update twice, with a factory reset in between flashes.
    04-08-2012 06:00 PM
  6. Dannemand's Avatar
    ^^
    Thanks a lot, Jerry. That eliminates one important piece from this puzzle! :beer:
    04-08-2012 06:19 PM
  7. Eollie's Avatar
    I want to add to my post, company showed up while I was typing.

    On my sgs4g some of us are having issues with reboots. One user narrowed it to possibly a issue with the various radios. This weekend one user had multiple reboots while driving to vegas from cali. What we have concluded is it could be caused by low signal. He is going to get some logcats on his return trip so it can be looked at.

    So if the new radio is being extremely finicky with actual signal that could be cashing the reboots. So what is being suggested in people testing the stock updated rom for a few days is on the right track. What could be happening is a conflict between the zv9 update and the prior updates/firmware.
    04-08-2012 08:21 PM
  8. davidh44's Avatar
    The only way to flash the radio is to flash the full VM security update twice, with a factory reset in between flashes.
    What happens if you didn't do a factory reset in between flashes?
    04-08-2012 08:56 PM
  9. Eollie's Avatar
    What happens if you didn't do a factory reset in between flashes?
    It will hang and you will need to pull the battery and do a reset. Atleast that is what I experienced and some others have stated.
    04-08-2012 09:02 PM
  10. curtis1973's Avatar
    after reading all these issues,im glad just flashing it to iho doesn't work. i want no part of this "update"
    04-08-2012 09:18 PM
  11. anthonycr's Avatar
    after reading all these issues,im glad just flashing it to iho doesn't work. i want no part of this "update"
    Actually the update isn't all bad. EarthnFire78 is rebuilding his froyo Rom off the update and I'm rebuilding bumblebee using the update. Its not totally bad. Once you remove recovery, change out the kernel, add superuser, and deodex the apps, it turns into a decently smooth rom. I'm actually running stock froyo with the bobzhome iho kernel right now.
    04-08-2012 09:32 PM
  12. cole2kb's Avatar
    after reading all these issues,im glad just flashing it to iho doesn't work. i want no part of this "update"
    To those "scared" to flash, or discounting the update all together:

    Don't flash it if you have no reason to. If you see good reception and you are happy with your data speeds, there is really no real reason to upgrade.

    If you have spotty reception, and slow data, however, I'd say go for it, or at least wait until these random reboot issues have been nailed down. Keep checking the thread for progress. I've had a few (less than 5 total) random reboots and have had full days with no issues. It greatly improved my data speeds and reception overall.
    04-08-2012 11:26 PM
  13. EarthnFire78's Avatar
    For now I'm holding off on working on my Froyo ROM, because I'm working on a project to make ROM editing easier for people that are a afraid of Linux, and I'm rebuilding IHO OM ROM from the ground up.

    Did work with Anthony on Bumblebee over the weekend, there are a few more things to work on with this update, but as it stands it is a pretty fast ROM, maybe even faster then it was last year.
    04-08-2012 11:27 PM
  14. rebel69ization's Avatar
    So I would have to re-do everything to get this?, Root,flash new rom, recovery, etc? My phone works just fine the way it is and is super fast, I think ill stick with what I've got. Thanks anyways Leslie ann

    Tappatalkin' from My V
    04-09-2012 05:28 AM
  15. anthonycr's Avatar
    So I would have to re-do everything to get this?, Root,flash new rom, recovery, etc? My phone works just fine the way it is and is super fast, I think ill stick with what I've got. Thanks anyways Leslie ann

    Tappatalkin' from My V
    Yes you would. The update flashes a radio, a new recovery, a new kernel, and new everything else.
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    04-09-2012 07:20 AM
  16. curtis1973's Avatar
    it has nothing to do with being "scared" cole lol,it has to do with being smart. i consider the updates failure to apply without being done on a completely restored froyo rom a blessing of sorts in that it didn't take on my iho setup. i should have practiced patients versus jumping on the update without it being fully explored first. that's my fault. luckily no harm came from it. and considering all the long convoluted steps involved in order to just update the radio,i think ill pass.
    04-09-2012 07:43 AM
  17. cole2kb's Avatar
    Wasn't really directed at you specifically, just trying to clarify amongst all the other posts that there certainly can be benefits to flashing it.

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-6
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    04-09-2012 08:48 AM
  18. dobbs69's Avatar
    Just wanted to report my reboot issues seem to have stopped. However my phone does seem to take longer to connect a call or send a text. But the update does seem to have settled in

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk
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    04-09-2012 08:53 AM
  19. Eollie's Avatar
    it has nothing to do with being "scared" cole lol,it has to do with being smart. i consider the updates failure to apply without being done on a completely restored froyo rom a blessing of sorts in that it didn't take on my iho setup. i should have practiced patients versus jumping on the update without it being fully explored first. that's my fault. luckily no harm came from it. and considering all the long convoluted steps involved in order to just update the radio,i think ill pass.
    Technically speaking this isnt any different than updating any other phone. The problem is most phones have a way to go to the stock rom first. But seeing as how we can restore our stock nandroid then flash this means there is really only one more step. If I wanted to restore my sgs4g to stock I have to use odin/heimdall and that process can take some time. And you need a computer to return to stock on most phones. With this we can do it all on the phone. This update zip is so valuable I dont think people understand the importance of having it is.

    I do understand what your saying tho. Just understand this update is easier than most others.
    04-09-2012 12:09 PM
  20. anthonycr's Avatar
    Technically speaking this isnt any different than updating any other phone. The problem is most phones have a way to go to the stock rom first. But seeing as how we can restore our stock nandroid then flash this means there is really only one more step. If I wanted to restore my sgs4g to stock I have to use odin/heimdall and that process can take some time. And you need a computer to return to stock on most phones. With this we can do it all on the phone. This update zip is so valuable I dont think people understand the importance of having it is.

    I do understand what your saying tho. Just understand this update is easier than most others.
    Exactly Eollie, this updates make all those "how to return to stock" threads useless now, since all we have to do is download the update and flash twice in recovery and voila! its stock.
    04-09-2012 12:32 PM
  21. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    So I would have to re-do everything to get this?, Root,flash new rom, recovery, etc? My phone works just fine the way it is and is super fast, I think ill stick with what I've got. Thanks anyways Leslie ann
    My version of the patch does NOT change everything, all it does is the radio.
    However, you have to use a recommended recovery, and there is a chance that it will not flash. If you want it guaranteed 100% to work, and show up in testing, you need to use Jerry's, which will make you redo everything.
    04-09-2012 03:35 PM
  22. gunson's Avatar
    I just wanted to give everyone an update on my quest to find a solution to the reboot problem that some of us are experiencing. The latest things I've tried are:

    running fix_permissions from the terminal (dont do it from recovery )

    running MiRaGe ROM

    redoing the VM670ZV9 update process all over again, making sure to factory wipe in between flashes. Then installing Bobs latest ROM from scratch.

    I still get reboots after sending some texts. I currently reformatted my SD card and am running the stock VM670ZV9 (not rooted) to see if I get reboots after texting. If anyone has other things I should check or do please feel free to reply or PM me.
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    04-09-2012 05:22 PM
  23. JerryScript's Avatar
    My version of the patch does NOT change everything, all it does is the radio.
    However, you have to use a recommended recovery, and there is a chance that it will not flash. If you want it guaranteed 100% to work, and show up in testing, you need to use Jerry's, which will make you redo everything.
    Are there any confirmed flashes of just the radio on a custom recovery?

    I'm pretty sure that it requires the hboot|radio option to be set, and it gets written on reboot, not during the flashing process, which requires AFAIK the stock firmware.

    (check your email )
    04-09-2012 05:23 PM
  24. gunson's Avatar
    Quick question. I am using the stock VM9 rom and noticed the text app seems different from the text app from Jerrys ROM. Is it possible that the app used in Jerrys rom some how can cause issues with the radio update from VM9?
    04-09-2012 06:00 PM
  25. JerryScript's Avatar
    Quick question. I am using the stock VM9 rom and noticed the text app seems different from the text app from Jerrys ROM. Is it possible that the app used in Jerrys rom some how can cause issues with the radio update from VM9?
    No, the interaction is handled by the ril (radio interface layer), not by the app.
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    04-09-2012 07:42 PM
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