1. colonelcack's Avatar
    So...i updated to the newest radio without hesitation thinking it can only be better since everyone else was having positive results. But after updating I lose my 3g connection on a daily basis, when driving it will go out on me even when I have FULL bars. Multiple times, sometimes the only way to get it back is to reboot.

    I thought it might be the towers here because my roomates also have sprint and they said they were also having problems and called sprint. Sprint said they were in the process of upgrading the tower here and wouldn't be done until sometime in June.

    But this continues to happen even when I am an hour (30+ miles) away using what I would assume are different towers. So I don't know if it's just a fluke of random timing or if the radio is making me lose my 3g over and over...is this possible to revert? It was never this bad before! I feel like my phone is almost unusable now!

    I used the recommended recovery to flash it and made a backup before I did.
    04-18-2012 10:04 PM
  2. cole2kb's Avatar
    Have you tried doing a full wipe / re-flash of your ROM? Which one are you running? Did you follow proper steps when flashing the radio update?

    Download OpenSignal from the Market and keep an eye on what tower you're connected to.

    There is currently no way to downgrade the radio.

    If you check OpenSignal and it tells you that even connecting to a different tower gives you the same issues, then I'd say your best bet is to go through the flashing process again to revert fully to stock, and call Virgin, and tell them the problems you've been having since the update.
    04-18-2012 10:11 PM
  3. CuriousNoob's Avatar
    Hopefully there's something they can do. :P

    I'm gonna get a replacement and hope its not ZV9. With the update, I can't stay stable on 600 as max overflock without a random reboot.

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5
    04-18-2012 11:58 PM
  4. colonelcack's Avatar
    Have you tried doing a full wipe / re-flash of your ROM? Which one are you running? Did you follow proper steps when flashing the radio update?

    Download OpenSignal from the Market and keep an eye on what tower you're connected to.

    There is currently no way to downgrade the radio.

    If you check OpenSignal and it tells you that even connecting to a different tower gives you the same issues, then I'd say your best bet is to go through the flashing process again to revert fully to stock, and call Virgin, and tell them the problems you've been having since the update.
    I'm running the latest build of backside iho. I was running an earlier build but just upgraded and am still having the same issues.

    I flashed it with VM670NH_recovery.img

    I don't know what steps there were to mess up...? Haven't tried a full wipe...was hoping to avoid that...

    Edit:

    I just got a new memory card and am now using an ext3 partition for my apps. If i did a full wipe would I still have all my apps/settings?
    04-19-2012 12:32 AM
  5. JerryScript's Avatar
    If they are upgrading the towers in your area, they probably are doing it within more than a 1 mile radius. I would wait till their tower upgrade process is complete, or till I'm in a completely different city, before jumping to any conclusions.
    WakeUpC22 and brotherswing like this.
    04-19-2012 12:37 AM
  6. WakeUpC22's Avatar
    Yea agreed with Jerry. Recently they've done quite a bit of work in norcal and the quality is pretty awful.

    I flashed to v9 and don't notice anything worse or better so that tells me it definitely is tower work. Try reflashing or just seeing if the quality is better in some areas than others.
    04-19-2012 05:05 AM
  7. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    So...i updated to the newest radio without hesitation thinking it can only be better since everyone else was having positive results. But after updating I lose my 3g connection on a daily basis, when driving it will go out on me even when I have FULL bars. Multiple times, sometimes the only way to get it back is to reboot.
    Have you updated the PRL file?
    Also, are you using any battery management apps?
    Are you using any apps to control the radio, like turn it to 2g?
    Have you used the #*#*-whatever radio change menu?
    It doesn't matter if you uninstalled them, or put it back to the right setting, if you have and not re-flashed, it counts.
    04-19-2012 05:45 AM
  8. colonelcack's Avatar
    Have you updated the PRL file?
    Also, are you using any battery management apps?
    Are you using any apps to control the radio, like turn it to 2g?
    Have you used the #*#*-whatever radio change menu?
    It doesn't matter if you uninstalled them, or put it back to the right setting, if you have and not re-flashed, it counts.
    -I'm using a custom PRL yes but I have been for months now it's nothing i've changed recently, it's prl 1115

    -no battery control apps

    -the most i try is to turn airplane mode on/off when i lose 3g; that sometimes brings it back

    -have not tried any dialer codes

    -uninstalled what/changed what back to the right setting?

    Do you recommend a full wipe leslie-ann? Sorry, not trying to guilt you over your radio endeavour i know you've gotten enough flack as it is. I was planning a full wipe for a while now but had hoped to get away with waiting until quattrimus was at a beta/rc1 stage to try as a daily driver.
    04-19-2012 09:36 PM
  9. O13's Avatar
    The radio update helped my battery life a lot but I think it messed up my MMS ppl tell me they been sendin me pics an I don't get any an I sent sum an they sumtimes get it.. I don't know if its the towers or not. An also I used to get at least 2 bars when I was at home now I don't have any
    04-20-2012 12:15 PM
  10. cole2kb's Avatar
    The radio update helped my battery life a lot but I think it messed up my MMS ppl tell me they been sendin me pics an I don't get any an I sent sum an they sumtimes get it.. I don't know if its the towers or not. An also I used to get at least 2 bars when I was at home now I don't have any
    Are you really still using ASOPCmod? That's your problem right there.
    04-20-2012 12:33 PM
  11. cammykool's Avatar
    all i have had are positives with my update stable OC to 786/480 full barss where i got 1-2 and 3G speeds soared!
    04-20-2012 01:13 PM
  12. O13's Avatar
    Are you really still using ASOPCmod? That's your problem right there.
    Yeah I am but it didn't do dis before.. it jus started like a week ago maybe. Before I had awesome signal an could send pics an everything good
    04-20-2012 02:47 PM
  13. kirurus's Avatar
    Yeah I am but it didn't do dis before.. it jus started like a week ago maybe. Before I had awesome signal an could send pics an everything good
    Join the IHO cult my friend. You will be much, much happier.
    04-20-2012 03:30 PM
  14. colonelcack's Avatar
    So if I do a full backup and i have all my user apps linked to my ext3 partition...would I have to reinstall them again or just relink them? Do the apps store data elsewhere on the phone (like libraries) that would cause them to break?
    04-20-2012 05:59 PM
  15. MarkD426's Avatar
    Switching to a new ROM would require a re-install of your apps. Use titanium back up, it backups all your apps along with app data.
    04-20-2012 06:12 PM
  16. A-android-B's Avatar
    I'd like to thank you guys for talking me out of the radio update until zv10 or a sure way to revert back lol. im highly considering a prl swap though, heard mostly good things if one can find a good prl
    04-20-2012 08:00 PM
  17. droidmyme's Avatar
    OP: give it some time. Service can be wonky from time to time, it may soon go back to normal. In the meantime, if you're looking for a ROM that is rock solid, definitely check out Harmonia 1.8 - highly recommended for stability and battery life.

    Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk 2
    04-20-2012 08:09 PM
  18. curtis1973's Avatar
    there is one sure fire way to go back to the old radio. get a replacement from virgin mobile. in my opinion,the update is wonky itself right from virgin mobile. they borked it up. let them eat the cost thats my take on it. roms arent the only items seeing goofy reboots,etc. several friends who aren't rooted did a straight update and now their device reboots at times without any apparent reason as to why,get force close issues in apps,etc...i do know from my own device that vm isn't sending out replacements with the borked update. ive always held the belief if my provider screws my device up with a bad update,it's on them to replace and or fix my device at their cost.
    JerryScript likes this.
    04-20-2012 11:17 PM
  19. colonelcack's Avatar
    Finally bit the bullet and did a full wipe/reinstalled jerry's iho. Seems like it's getting 3g a lot quicker when turning on/off the wifi...but the real test will be tomorrow's road trip. Will update with results...
    04-21-2012 04:52 AM
  20. colonelcack's Avatar
    Hallelujah! The full system wipe seemed to do the trick. 3G is rock solid.

    Thanks for the help. Perhaps it should be noted in the main radio upgrade post that some people need to do a full wipe if having connectivity issues after flashing.

    Wonder why it affected me and not everyone else...could have to do with the fact that I haven't done a full system wipe in 6+ months? Who knows! I'm just glad to have a usable phone again!
    04-22-2012 01:06 AM
  21. Eollie's Avatar
    There is a million variables. Remember if your having issues wiping caches and such will fix most problems.

    In terminal type this
    Code:
    su
    fix_permissions
    Reboot the phone and let it sit for a bit after rebooting.
    MarkD426 likes this.
    04-22-2012 01:36 AM
  22. MarkD426's Avatar
    There is a million variables. Remember if your having issues wiping caches and such will fix most problems.

    In terminal type this
    Code:
    su
    fix_permissions
    Reboot the phone and let it sit for a bit after rebooting.
    Thank you sir. I did this and getting constant speed tests of 500+kbps Down and 300+kbps Up with 2 bars. Pretty amazing for my area. I've done Speedtest.net about 10 times. Going to try during high traffic time tomorrow.
    04-22-2012 03:55 AM
  23. tdm's Avatar
    is this possible to revert?
    Glad to see you've got your issue solved.

    The simple answer to you question is no.

    As far as anyone here knows, the radio firmware is write-only and cannot be extracted from the phone. The boot loader writes the radio firmware on startup when it sees a special command from the updater. And since the phones come with the original radio firmware (ZV4/ZV5) pre-installed, nobody has a copy of them.
    04-22-2012 10:27 AM
  24. colonelcack's Avatar
    Glad to see you've got your issue solved.

    The simple answer to you question is no.

    As far as anyone here knows, the radio firmware is write-only and cannot be extracted from the phone. The boot loader writes the radio firmware on startup when it sees a special command from the updater. And since the phones come with the original radio firmware (ZV4/ZV5) pre-installed, nobody has a copy of them.
    Well...I thought it was fixed. Turns out it came back. It's not as bad as it was but I seem to have figured out that it only really starts to happen after the phone has been on for an extended period of time. After 12+ hour uptimes it starts to have trouble reconnecting to 3G after like I get off the phone, sometimes it doesn't switch back. But whenever the phone has freshly been rebooted it always switches back instantly.

    Now I'm seriously starting to consider doing an ESN swap on a evo 4g. If I did this, I would want the option to be able to still sell the phone if I wanted. If i do the swap, is it reversible? I know I couldn't sell my OV if I was using it's ESN. But if I don't like how it works out I'd like to be able to set it back to the original settings to be able to sell.
    04-27-2012 10:51 PM
  25. LeslieAnn's Avatar
    ESN swaps are considered a bad thing to discuss on forums so my answer is a bit generic.

    You can revert the Evo settings if you have the info to put back, however, expect a LOT of reading, troubleshooting, headaches and labor to swap over a phone. Also, by the time you are done with it, the Evo will be nearly worthless so I wouldn't worry about it. If you even want to consider this, you should probably read a lot about all of it, including pros and cons and then see if you can even get the info you need from the OV. If you can't manage that part, you may as well give up before you buy the Evo.


    My advice to anyone even considering it at this point is simply don't.
    If you have any sort of a job, at this point you are better off waiting for the the 3D or One V and not having to deal with the troubles this brings with the whole thing and future troubles you may encounter (such as laws changing, terms of service crackdowns, etc...).
    colonelcack likes this.
    04-27-2012 11:05 PM
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