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  1. land of the trill's Avatar
    As time goes by tech gets updated and not to say that any one phone will be around forever but they've been doing a good job of supporting the G1 and 2.1 can run on the G1 to some extent but the 3D gallery and new app drawer probably ever won't get ported although I've tried the gallery on my G1 and while it worked for the most part rendering and a few other things was less than idle so not worth the time.
    01-17-2010 09:41 AM
  2. corneliused's Avatar
    - How do you rate the various touchscreen keyboards on Android?

    The onscreen keyboard on vanilla 1.5 comes up really fast. The auto correct is quite good as well. I would say one handed operation is challenging in any mode however, which isn't true for the pre's physical. Also landscape sliders can't be used in one handed mode easily either. it's not a big deal unless you use your phone while carrying other stuff or riding your bike or driving or fighting terrorists.
    01-17-2010 11:34 AM
  3. Thespis721's Avatar
    Software wise, all the phones have been updated regularly. Like they said, the G1. However, that's just a hardware limitation and that's it. they are no more unable to support their devices then any OS manufacturer.
    01-17-2010 12:13 PM
  4. pbrennan42's Avatar
    There will always be devices left behind as the OS develops and begins to require more processing power than some of the older devices can give.

    Once upon a time we all thought that a 512mb hard drive is more than we would ever need. Now look at all the 2 and 3 tetrabyte drives on the market.......

    It's the same with hand held devices on various platforms like WebOS and Android and whatever OS the iPhone is on.

    One thing that does interest me, though, is the new Linux based OS from Nokia, Maemo. I wonder how it compares to Android?

    Phil.
    01-17-2010 12:24 PM
  5. simp_10's Avatar
    Just another entry
    01-17-2010 01:07 PM
  6. HardcorePooka's Avatar
    Another entry.
    01-17-2010 02:24 PM
  7. jankyhanky#WP's Avatar
    I don't really see why anyone says either OS is complicated. Nothing is as complex as WinMo. That OS has so many settings, menus, and tweakable registry entries you could get lost for years.
    Android took about an hour to learn. A few days to get the ins and outs.
    WebOS I've only played with, but it seemed simple too.

    What I would like to see on Android is more unified profiles. For example: sounds. I can change (system & general) notification sounds and ringtones in the Settings menu, but I cannot change my text message sound or Gmail sound unless I go to those specific apps. Since I am using 1.5, I also have a separate e-mail app that allows me to disable/enable sounds for each of my other e-mail accounts.
    I would like to see all of these in one menu.
    01-17-2010 04:48 PM
  8. AZbear's Avatar
    another entry
    01-17-2010 07:25 PM
  9. sethjk's Avatar
    another entry for me!
    01-17-2010 08:09 PM
  10. ads's Avatar
    curious, when is the drawing? Weeks away after the whole round robin is done or do they do it each week by platform, anyone know?
    ADS
    01-17-2010 09:32 PM
  11. Thespis721's Avatar
    This all brings up an interesting point. The iPhone has been around for about 3 years now (I think) and it still can up date it's oldest phone. Pre has been around for a year and the updates still work. Android has been around for a year and it already has software that cannot update to their latest OS.

    It kind of shows to me that Android's OS is developing significantly faster then the other OS's. I mean, even aesthetically, the OS from version 1 is completely different to version 2. Opposed to the iPhone where the OS looks the same even going into it's 4th version.
    01-17-2010 09:36 PM
  12. AndrewWestSide's Avatar
    Round Robin entry post!
    01-17-2010 10:00 PM
  13. Fobok's Avatar
    This all brings up an interesting point. The iPhone has been around for about 3 years now (I think) and it still can up date it's oldest phone. Pre has been around for a year and the updates still work. Android has been around for a year and it already has software that cannot update to their latest OS.

    It kind of shows to me that Android's OS is developing significantly faster then the other OS's. I mean, even aesthetically, the OS from version 1 is completely different to version 2. Opposed to the iPhone where the OS looks the same even going into it's 4th version.
    This is pretty much my only big concern about Android phones. I like to keep up to date, especially when it comes to operating systems on my devices. (The only exception being I skipped Vista on my PC, which up until I got my iPod Touch at Christmas was the only device I really had to worry about. It was almost as difficult skipping as I imagine the problems in Vista would have been had I updated. But I got Windows 7 day 1.. heck, day -100 or something, actually, as I got the RC shortly after it released.)

    Anyway, rambling aside, I'm a little worried about the update paths on Android phones. That's one reason I'm hoping with Nexus One, they'll let people update as new software comes out, until the software no longer supports the hardware.
    01-17-2010 10:23 PM
  14. land of the trill's Avatar
    There is only one phone that isn't getting the lastest version of android and that's the G1 due to hardware restraits. It was an introduction to the OS and nothing more but its still being kept alive by the dev community but I'm waiting on something like the Nexus and hopefully with a keyboard. Staying up to date isn't an issue but the main thing would be custom UI for android which would make the process of updating a little harder but you would still get it just a little later.

    The platform matured so much it went from 1.6 to 2.0 and 2.0.1 overnight and now even shorter to 2.1 and being how everything after 2.0 was just a revision they waited so everyone would have the lastest when its updated. Motorola, HTC, and Google knew what direction it was going since they have to communicate with the respective partner. There isn't a problem just lack of research so far but by March every phone should have 2.1 except the G1.

    P.S. I'm guessing you want them to somehow add more memory to the phone and make it work but in the real world things don't work that way.
    01-17-2010 11:08 PM
  15. edrdoberts's Avatar
    Yes. Everyone except for the G1 is getting new updates. Unfortunately, because all the manufacturers like to add their own skin (such as TouchFlow 3D on the Hero/Eris), it takes the manufacturers a considerable amount of time to upgrade. 2.1 is out now, but these devices won't get the update for 6 months. That's somewhat frustrating... but something you deal with if you go the Android route.
    01-17-2010 11:53 PM
  16. HardcorePooka's Avatar
    Another day... another entry.
    01-18-2010 04:16 AM
  17. Thespis721's Avatar
    This is pretty much my only big concern about Android phones. I like to keep up to date, especially when it comes to operating systems on my devices. (The only exception being I skipped Vista on my PC, which up until I got my iPod Touch at Christmas was the only device I really had to worry about. It was almost as difficult skipping as I imagine the problems in Vista would have been had I updated. But I got Windows 7 day 1.. heck, day -100 or something, actually, as I got the RC shortly after it released.)

    Anyway, rambling aside, I'm a little worried about the update paths on Android phones. That's one reason I'm hoping with Nexus One, they'll let people update as new software comes out, until the software no longer supports the hardware.
    I'm not sure if this is even that great of a concern given that the only reason the G1 didn't get it is because it didn't have the hardware to handle 3D. All the phones released now have 3D capabilities and I strongly doubt that Google is going to find something, OS-wise, that will stop the latest Android phones from handling their business now that 3D is out of the way.

    And regarding Nexus One with a keyboard as someone said, that's pretty much the Droid. Most reviewers said that. What you think of the keyboard is another question. N1 only has that super processor in it, but people still say that it's only a little faster then the Droid.
    01-18-2010 08:09 AM
  18. simp_10's Avatar
    another entry!
    01-18-2010 09:04 AM
  19. leonl's Avatar
    Another entry...
    01-18-2010 10:00 AM
  20. corneliused's Avatar
    palm's gps was way better than samsung moment's. There might be a documented issue, but it works. Moment had video though.
    01-18-2010 10:03 AM
  21. AZbear's Avatar
    Now that I have the Nexus I am finding some apps that do not work on 2.1 but so not state any issues in the comments. For example DXTop has some issues with 2.1 but nowhere does it state that it does not support 2.1
    01-18-2010 10:25 AM
  22. land of the trill's Avatar
    All devices that support 2.1 will be updated in the next 2-3 months and some sooner than other more than likely. We will be hearing more about flash and a new update in the next coming months since flan was dropped and they call it something else.
    01-18-2010 10:59 AM
  23. AndrewWestSide's Avatar
    Today's Round Robin entry post!
    01-18-2010 11:24 AM
  24. klebron23's Avatar
    another one
    01-18-2010 01:02 PM
  25. ads's Avatar
    Access Lane Community • View topic - dxTop crash on new version of Android...
    see 5th post. Looks like they can't fix it until the 2.1 SDK comes out.
    ADS


    Now that I have the Nexus I am finding some apps that do not work on 2.1 but so not state any issues in the comments. For example DXTop has some issues with 2.1 but nowhere does it state that it does not support 2.1
    01-18-2010 01:27 PM
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