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  1. PsychDoc's Avatar
    Sales are atrocious...worse than the S5 and that wasn't good by any stretch.

    This is true and, frankly, very disturbing. Disturbing because the 'cult of Apple' seems to forge ahead like an unstoppable locomotive. It seems to me that Samsung clearly made the better product but the hordes still flock to Apple. I think the prior (minor) hiccups of iphone sales were clearly due to Apple's intransigence on going to larger screen sizes. Once they finally acknowledged and addressed the overwhelming importance of this in the minds of the buying public it was (and continues to be) off to the races. I think what will now have to happen is that Samsung (and others) really have to rethink going head to head with Apple as a manufacturer of 'the premier product.' This has now, by default, been ceded to Apple. Samsung (and others) are going to have to be content to fight it out for second place.

    Unless Apple makes a horrendous misstep with the iphone 6S/7/whatever I think there's no shaking them off their perch at the top of the heap.

    I will repeat that I think this is a terrible shame as the S6 beats the iphone in pretty much every category (screen, flexibility, speed, camera and even battery life when compared to the iphone 6)...including build quality and aesthetics. But, at the end of the day, it's the buying public who determines the winner(s). And it seems that the public has spoken.
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    05-27-2015 06:08 AM
  2. Ziegmund's Avatar
    Not true. I'm an Apple user - iphone, macbook, ipad. But when I saw Galaxy S6 I decided to give it a try - so ordered it and waiting now. If Samsung could make a better product - hell with brands, I'm going for it. And I know that there are a lot of people out there who buy only "because it is Apple", but still, there are many others. So IF Samsung would be better for me - I would keep the phone. Otherwise in autumn I will check the new Ipone 6S.

    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Samsung sales are higher than Apple's, aren't they?
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    05-27-2015 06:48 AM
  3. PsychDoc's Avatar

    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Samsung sales are higher than Apple's, aren't they?
    Sadly, no. The iphone is burying the S6. It's not even close. See here: Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 Sales - Forbes
    05-27-2015 06:58 AM
  4. Gator352's Avatar
    Sales are atrocious...worse than the S5 and that wasn't good by any stretch.

    This is true and, frankly, very disturbing. Disturbing because the 'cult of Apple' seems to forge ahead like an unstoppable locomotive. It seems to me that Samsung clearly made the better product but the hordes still flock to Apple. I think the prior (minor) hiccups of iphone sales were clearly due to Apple's intransigence on going to larger screen sizes. Once they finally acknowledged and addressed the overwhelming importance of this in the minds of the buying public it was (and continues to be) off to the races. I think what will now have to happen is that Samsung (and others) really have to rethink going head to head with Apple as a manufacturer of 'the premier product.' This has now, by default, been ceded to Apple. Samsung (and others) are going to have to be content to fight it out for second place.

    Unless Apple makes a horrendous misstep with the iphone 6S/7/whatever I think there's no shaking them off their perch at the top of the heap.

    I will repeat that I think this is a terrible shame as the S6 beats the iphone in pretty much every category (screen, flexibility, speed, camera and even battery life when compared to the iphone 6)...including build quality and aesthetics. But, at the end of the day, it's the buying public who determines the winner(s). And it seems that the public has spoken.
    We don't know the exact sales of the s6 yet So we can't say it's atrocious yet.

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    05-27-2015 06:59 AM
  5. Gator352's Avatar
    Sadly, no. The iphone is burying the S6. It's not even close. See here: Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 Sales - Forbes
    Exactly. The iPhone is killing the s6. But android by all manufacturers are killing apple in market share.

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    05-27-2015 07:00 AM
  6. the tall guy's Avatar
    05-27-2015 07:09 AM
  7. ShannonDavis's Avatar
    I thought it was already determined that the Forbes article was inaccurate and was accused of being iPhone fan boys.

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    05-27-2015 07:35 AM
  8. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    Who cares, I got my Galaxy S6 and that's all that counts.

    Waiting on the Note 5...............
    Aquila, deeb215, ziggster and 2 others like this.
    05-27-2015 07:49 AM
  9. drone3's Avatar
    Plenty of room for Coke and Pepsi

    dreaming of electric sheep
    Aquila, A895 and MRS DIVA like this.
    05-27-2015 07:53 AM
  10. PsychDoc's Avatar
    I thought it was already determined that the Forbes article was inaccurate and was accused of being iPhone fan boys.

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    As much as I want to believe that this is just a Forbes hatchet job, the silence/"no comment" from Samsung is very telling.

    Samsung may (unjustifiably) have to accept second tier status and fight it out for dominance in that segment.
    05-27-2015 07:57 AM
  11. planoman's Avatar
    People speak with their money. It shouldn't make you sad that so many choose to spend their money on Apple gear, myself included. The iphone is a very capable device(s) and I enjoy my 6+ and my S6.

    As a shareholder of apple and google, I love both companies!

    Posted via my Galaxy S6!
    05-27-2015 08:05 AM
  12. Gator352's Avatar
    Yes As a whole because Samsung has many different phones from low to high end on the market. But the iPhone 6 and 6+ sales are trumping the s6 and edge in terms of sales.

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    05-27-2015 08:17 AM
  13. Gator352's Avatar
    Plenty of room for Coke and Pepsi

    dreaming of electric sheep
    What? No Dr. Pepper?

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    05-27-2015 08:18 AM
  14. Gator352's Avatar
    Android as an OS will always have a greater market share because there like 300 different android phones from low end to high end and every carrier no matter how big or small has android phones in its line up. But the iPhone is still the most popular phone in the world and thats not going to change anytime soon.
    Exactly what I was trying to say!

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    05-27-2015 08:19 AM
  15. warpdrive's Avatar
    As much as I want to believe that this is just a Forbes hatchet job, the silence/"no comment" from Samsung is very telling.

    Samsung may (unjustifiably) have to accept second tier status and fight it out for dominance in that segment.
    You do understand that you are talking about the global leader in the cell phone industry, right? Higher than Apple by a few percentile. Second tier what?

    www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-market-share.jsp

    The market is drastically changing. Just wait till mommy and daddy stop buying little Tommy his flagship devices. Everybody is gonna crash hard. I'm testing a $300 phone right now that will sell to plenty of young consumers that just don't understand why they should spend $700 or $800 on a cell phone while working 2 part time jobs that pay no more than min and have school loans to pay off.

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    05-27-2015 08:22 AM
  16. ziggster's Avatar
    Whether or not a phone has reached it's projected sales has never been a metric that I used in my purchase decision.
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    05-27-2015 08:22 AM
  17. Coney718's Avatar
    It is sad really because the S6 was Samsung's best phone to date by far but its extremely difficult to covert long time iPhone users no matter how good the S6 specs are on paper. I have friends that use iPhone that wont even look at an android phone. I show them what the S6 can do and all the features it has and they just dont care. The most I get is "oh thats cool" but thats not enough to make them switch. My sister picked up my S6 the other day and was totally lost. She couldnt navigate the homescreens, the menus, etc. She said to me and this were her exact words "I dont see how ppl can use phones like these". And thats how most iPhone owners feel about Android. Me being a tech geek I like to try out new things so I was open minded to it but I can definitely see why iPhone users stick with what they know and love.
    05-27-2015 08:27 AM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    A few points here:

    1. There is no contest to win. The name of the game is to make money.
    2. Neither company is trying to change the world with their devices and the success of one doesn't come at the expense of another. This isn't zero sum. Over 60% of the population still isn't connected to mobile. There is still plenty of room to forge new markets.
    3. I'm not convinced anyone at all should care who has the more popular device. Your S6 is probably more popular than my Moto X, but I love my Moto X and I would absolutely hate having an S6. Personal choice is more important than the herd. I'm assuming you're happier with your S6 than you would be with a Moto X, otherwise you wasted a heck of a lot of money.
    4. This isn't a religion or cult, there is no need to try to convert people. I realize most of us are enthusiasts and some clearly prefer one OS over another. That's fine, get excited, have fun - but at the end of the day, if someone else is enjoying their not-your-favorite-device, the enjoyment is the key idea, not the device. I too want to share what I'm excited about, but there is definitely no validity in a debate to have or any war to win.
    5. Even if there were a contest, neither Apple nor Samsung release their sales figures to the public with any regularity. Forbes' author didn't present a single fact. There is a lot of conjecture and rumor, but no hard evidence of anything. He does complain and speculate about features and whether or not they hurt sales (hint: they don't) - and forgets to do two things: 1. compare the presumed performance to the market and 2. recognize how freaking huge Samsung's sales still are. There is nothing "disastrous", "disturbing" or "abysmal" going on here. 100% FUD.
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    05-27-2015 08:49 AM
  19. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    What's ticking me off is the fanboiz.
    Phones are now close to $1000.
    The fanboiz keep praising and defending, and the carriers/Mfg's are laughing all the way to the bank.
    We have got to quit drinking down their coolaid.
    06-01-2015 08:52 AM
  20. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    Why are you comparing an OS (Android) against a device (iPhone) in market shares. If you want a fair comparison, compare OS with OS. Android vs iOS which means all iPhones, iPods, iPads and now Apple Watch.

    Once Samsung switches to Tizen, Android market share will take a big hit because Samsung is the #1 smartphone maker worldwide.
    06-01-2015 07:01 PM
  21. syspry's Avatar
    Sales are atrocious...worse than the S5 and that wasn't good by any stretch.
    Unfounded as you've seen in the above replies

    It seems to me that Samsung clearly made the better product but the hordes still flock to Apple.
    Did it? Deeper digging by really tech savvy communities are starting to uncover things now that the honeymoon phase is over. Attenuation, touch sensitivity, battery drain being the 3 primary. To head off the obvious rebuttal I'm not saying the iPhone doesn't have its own issues but my own personal opinion to this is that the S6 and 6+ are basically even overall.

    I will repeat that I think this is a terrible shame as the S6 beats the iphone in pretty much every category (screen, flexibility, speed, camera and even battery life when compared to the iphone 6)...including build quality and aesthetics. But, at the end of the day, it's the buying public who determines the winner(s). And it seems that the public has spoken.
    Does it? You're comparing it to the 6 but make no mention of the 6+. Your comment about quality and aesthetics is also highly subjective and debatable as well.
    06-01-2015 09:09 PM
  22. Zoostation's Avatar
    It's a valid question whether we should be comparing the S6 to the 6 or the 6+. I tend to think you need to compare it to the 6 and compare the Note to the 6+
    06-02-2015 10:14 AM
  23. Zoostation's Avatar
    It is sad really because the S6 was Samsung's best phone to date by far but its extremely difficult to covert long time iPhone users no matter how good the S6 specs are on paper. I have friends that use iPhone that wont even look at an android phone. I show them what the S6 can do and all the features it has and they just dont care. The most I get is "oh thats cool" but thats not enough to make them switch. My sister picked up my S6 the other day and was totally lost. She couldnt navigate the homescreens, the menus, etc. She said to me and this were her exact words "I dont see how ppl can use phones like these". And thats how most iPhone owners feel about Android. Me being a tech geek I like to try out new things so I was open minded to it but I can definitely see why iPhone users stick with what they know and love.
    I have seen both sides here. I have a lot of friends who are iPhone users. They had a good experience with their first one and are loyal customers who will be iPhone users for life. They have no desire to even learn about what else is out there. On the other hand, there are some iPhone users who can be converted if the product is good. My sister is a convert to an S6 and I didn't even have to try and talk her into it.
    06-02-2015 10:21 AM
  24. anon8380037's Avatar
    What's the latest on Apple ever bringing out lower end devices, then Android may be in trouble (and I understand some pros and cons of Apple ever doing that).

    The other debate I haven't caught up on was that Apple have no where else to go, design or software wise, with the iPhone, now that they went 6+ size.

    So: expensive, profitable watches,
    and claims of superior chips, storage and reception for their next generations will keep fans loyal for a while.

    I guess even if the next rounds of new hardware won't be that impressive, the next 2 years should be interesting.


    (I have no idea what I'm saying - btw)
    06-03-2015 01:52 PM
  25. Almeuit's Avatar
    Were the sale numbers officially released? Can you post the link? I'd love to read .
    Ry likes this.
    06-03-2015 01:52 PM
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